Discussion of the creation of islamic fighters

Started by Mr. Bigglesworth, October 24, 2014, 07:42:50 PM

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Mr. Bigglesworth

Rather than post this article link in the Mosul or Canada threads I thought a thread on the herding of islamic fighters would make sense.

Joining Islamic State is about 'sex and aggression,' not religion

"Ideological extremists like those leading Islamic State deliberately employ the ideas of collective hardship and victimization of Muslims worldwide to galvanize and recruit potential jihadists.
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The militant group has set up marriage centers where women register to be wed to its fighters. Captured Iraqi women and girls are forced into sex slavery, living in brothels run by female jihadists. Rape of non-believers is considered legitimate, while fatwas proclaiming a "sexual jihad" encourage brutality against females. Lastly, martyrdom is associated with sexual bliss in paradise."

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/10/16/joining-islamic-state-is-about-sex-and-aggression-not-religion/

"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; "
- Shakespeare's Henry V, Act III, 1598

LongBlade

As if we needed another excuse to exterminate those vermin.
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Mr. Bigglesworth

"Sophisticated de-radicalization programs such as those in Saudi Arabia or Singapore break the dynamics of militants' groups by separating detained leaders and core members from their followers. They also make wise use of militants' families, who are called upon to exert a moderating influence on graduating detainees, helping to prevent their slide back into extremism."

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/11/05/the-3-step-guide-to-de-radicalizing-jihadists/
"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; "
- Shakespeare's Henry V, Act III, 1598

jejo68

Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on November 08, 2014, 01:33:32 PM
"Sophisticated de-radicalization programs such as those in Saudi Arabia or Singapore break the dynamics of militants' groups by separating detained leaders and core members from their followers. They also make wise use of militants' families, who are called upon to exert a moderating influence on graduating detainees, helping to prevent their slide back into extremism."

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2014/11/05/the-3-step-guide-to-de-radicalizing-jihadists/
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"Sophisticated de-radicalization programs such as those in Saudi Arabia" Someone's having a laugh. It's not as though clerics in Saudi don't encourage extremism is it? Heck, they even have a religious police there.
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LongBlade

Quote from: bayonetbrant on November 17, 2014, 11:11:44 AM
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-3-teenage-american-girls-who-tried-joined-isis-were-a-textbook-case-of-online-recruitment-2014-11

Thanks. Mystery solved. These were not just typical girls from Colorado:

QuoteThe Colorado girls, a 16-year-old girl of Sudanese descent, and two 15- and 17-year-old sisters of Somali descent, shared militant recruitment videos, the Search for International Terrorist Entities Intelligence Group, also known as SITE, said Tuesday.
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Not all those who wander are lost;
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Jack Nastyface

I've said it before it and I'll say it again...the only way to defeat the Islamists is via the following strategy:
1.  provide every muslim nation with free wifi (perhaps via satellite)
2.  provide $100 laptops to every muslim under the age of 30.
3.  Ensure that said laptops can only browse nekkid or semi-nekkid sites, like wickedweasel, or girls gone wild.
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GDS_Starfury

Quote from: Jack Nastyface on November 18, 2014, 09:22:18 PM
I've said it before it and I'll say it again...the only way to defeat the Islamists is via the following strategy:
1.  provide every muslim nation with free wifi (perhaps via satellite)
2.  provide $100 laptops to every muslim under the age of 30.
3.  Ensure that said laptops can only browse nekkid or semi-nekkid sites, like wickedsheep, or Goats gone wild.
No-one ever built a bomb with only one-hand free.

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LongBlade

Quote from: Jack Nastyface on November 18, 2014, 09:22:18 PM
I've said it before it and I'll say it again...the only way to defeat the Islamists is via the following strategy:
1.  provide every muslim nation with free wifi (perhaps via satellite)
2.  provide $100 laptops to every muslim under the age of 30.
3.  Ensure that said laptops can only browse nekkid or semi-nekkid sites, like wickedweasel, or girls gone wild.
No-one ever built a bomb with only one-hand free.

It does seem many of their problems could stem from sexual repression.
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

bayonetbrant

http://www.duffelblog.com/2014/11/isis-marines-29-palms/

QuoteISIS Overruns Marines' Mock Iraqi Training Village
G-Had November 19, 2014

TWENTYNINE PALMS, Calif. — The Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Center at Twentynine Palms was placed on a state of high alert last night, after forces of the terrorist group Islamic State of Iraq and Syria overran a mock Iraqi training village located in the center of the base.

According to Marine officials, the town of Wadi al-Sahara — known to the locals as Ranges 200 and 215 — was stormed in the middle of the night by ISIS fighters. Hoisting the black and white ISIS flag over the town, ISIS Commander Ali Baba proclaimed the Islamic Emirate of Camp Wilson and declared shariah law across the base.

Baba then declared an immediate prohibition on the purchase and consumption of alcohol, except on designated Warrior Nights. In a show of sensitivity to local culture, he then submitted paperwork to the Tactical Training Exercise Control Group to reserve Wadi al-Sahara for the next hundred years and ordered his fighters to conduct proper range maintenance.

A small artificial town sandwiched between base housing and several live-fire ranges, Wadi al-Sahara's population typically consists of 200 Arab-American role players and a platoon of off-duty Marines. They apparently thought the attack was part of a routine exercise, but were shocked after ISIS had the town's nominal sheikh, a restaurant owner from Dearborn, Michigan, shot in front of the mosque. In an even worse atrocity, the terrorists then refused to let the role players leave for their designated chow break or let the Marines go on authorized liberty.

Shortly after dawn, several ISIS fighters were also spotted at the Twentynine Palms Exchange attempting to buy cigarettes and Monster energy drinks, although they were immediately turned away for not having a proper shave. ISIS responded with a demand that base commander Maj. Gen. Lewis Craparotta publicly swear fealty to ISIS and place the 7th Marine Regiment under ISIS control.

Craparotta refused and vowed to launch an immediate counterattack as soon as he obtained permission from Range Control to use live ammunition on a non-live fire range, certified that everyone had a full CamelBak, and ensured the attack would not violate allotted noise levels for the base.

ISIS has also apparently begun fortifying the town, deploying dozens of simulated IEDs along likely avenues of approach and repeatedly flying a captured Raven UAV to deter any close air support.

This surprise attack is an embarrassment for the Marines, who have been waging a seemingly-endless battle for decades to pacify the restive town. Almost every battalion in the Marine Corps has attempted to improve the security of Wadi al-Sahara at some point, most doing multiple tours there, only to see the security quickly evaporate as soon as the next battalion arrives.

The Marines have admitted this is the worst breach of security since the Bridgeport Mountain Warfare Training Center was overrun by a company of Taliban fighters in July 2008.

Duffel Blog writer Lee Ho Fuk contributed reporting.
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^ OK, at first I was all  ???

Then into the third paragraph I was all  :2funny: