Top 10 biggest design flaws of the USS Enterprise (Trek)

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endfire79

Ok, putting this one here and... set criticism for stun, not kill :)


http://io9.com/top-10-biggest-design-flaws-in-the-u-s-s-enterprise-1678274241





Star Trek broke new ground by having a spaceship without fins and rockets, and by consulting with the RAND Corp. on its design. And the Enterprise is indeed a beauty. But the Federation's coolest starship isn't flawless, by any means. Here are the 10 biggest design flaws in the U.S.S. Enterprise.


Note: This article mostly deals with the original Enterprise, from Star Trek: The Original Series. We do dip into the Enterprise-D, from The Next Generation, a few times. We consulted with a couple of Treksperts just to supplement our Trek knowledge.
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GDS_Starfury

Ive really never been a huge fan of the overall design layout.
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Gus - Celery is vile and has no reason to exist. Like underwear on Star.


LongBlade

1) Fun read.

2) Who cares what Star thinks?

3) Give me a Romulan Warbird any day.
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

Centurion40

Any time is a good time for pie.

LongBlade

I'm partial to the old school, though that is one sexy ship, too.

All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

airboy

The list missed the easiest flaw to correct.  Every single scale on the sensors is tiny.  Really, how often is something "off the scale" from the sensors.  How big are those scales?  Do they run from say, .5 to maybe .7?


bbmike

Quote from: LongBlade on January 15, 2015, 12:23:31 PM
1) Fun read.

2) Who cares what Star thinks?

3) Give me a Romulan Warbird any day.

Yeah, he probably thinks that stupid looking Firefly ship looks cool.  ::)
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GDS_Starfury

nope.  from an industrial design standpoint its silly.
Jarhead - Yeah. You're probably right.

Gus - I use sweatpants with flannel shorts to soak up my crotch sweat.

Banzai Cat - There is no "partial credit" in grammar. Like anal sex. It's either in, or it's not.

Mirth - We learned long ago that they key isn't to outrun Star, it's to outrun Gus.

Martok - I don't know if it's possible to have an "anti-boner"...but I now have one.

Gus - Celery is vile and has no reason to exist. Like underwear on Star.


Centurion40

Quote from: LongBlade on January 15, 2015, 12:27:32 PM
I'm partial to the old school, though that is one sexy ship, too.



Is this not a Bird of Prey?
Any time is a good time for pie.

endfire79

She is one well-endowed lady. I'd like to get my hands on her "ample nacelles," if you pardon the engineering parlance.  :)
"I will return before you can say 'antidisestablishmentarianism'."

"A man may fight for many things. His country, his principles, his friends. The glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child. But personally, I'd mud-wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sack of French porn."

LongBlade

Quote from: Centurion40 on January 15, 2015, 01:22:55 PM
Is this not a Bird of Prey?

Honestly I'm not 100% sure. I'd have to dig out my Star Fleet Battles gear to get you a precise definition.

Suffice it to say that in TOS there are a variety of sizes and ship names which all bear the same general silhouette. Some are cruiser class, some destroyer, etc, but other than size they share the same outline.

There are exceptions - the Romulans do employ some old Klingon D7s, as well as having their own distinctive dreadnought which does not follow this outline.





OK, fine.

King Eagle, War Eagle, Snipe are how they're classified. I think "Bird of Prey" may be the Federation's general term for them, but I could be wrong. Here's a comprehensive list - probably better defined by Amarillo Design Bureau than any official codex.

http://www.starfleetgames.com/federation/Commanders%20Circle/romulanships.shtml
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

bbmike

It's a War Eagle. Where is Martok when you need him?  ::)
"My life is spent in one long effort to escape from the commonplace of existence."
-Sherlock Holmes

"You know, just once I'd like to meet an alien menace that wasn't immune to bullets."
-Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart

"There's a horror movie called Alien? That's really offensive. No wonder everyone keeps invading you!"
-The Doctor

"Before Man goes to the stars he should learn how to live on Earth."
-Clifford D. Simak

bbmike

Looking at the script for "Balance of Terror" (yes, I'm a TOS geek) there is only one reference to 'bird of prey':

STILES: You'll know, sir. They're painted like a giant bird-of-prey.

That's not a classification of the ship in my mind. TNG established BoP as a class, I think. I'm sticking with my SFB education. That's a War Eagle.
"My life is spent in one long effort to escape from the commonplace of existence."
-Sherlock Holmes

"You know, just once I'd like to meet an alien menace that wasn't immune to bullets."
-Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart

"There's a horror movie called Alien? That's really offensive. No wonder everyone keeps invading you!"
-The Doctor

"Before Man goes to the stars he should learn how to live on Earth."
-Clifford D. Simak

LongBlade

Quote from: bbmike on January 15, 2015, 05:40:33 PM
Looking at the script for "Balance of Terror" (yes, I'm a TOS geek) there is only one reference to 'bird of prey':

STILES: You'll know, sir. They're painted like a giant bird-of-prey.

That's not a classification of the ship in my mind. TNG established BoP as a class, I think. I'm sticking with my SFB education. That's a War Eagle.

Ha!

Awesome. Thanks for the assist :)
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

endfire79

In star fleet command that ship ship was a pain to maneuver, although you had type R plasmas and nuclear mines
"I will return before you can say 'antidisestablishmentarianism'."

"A man may fight for many things. His country, his principles, his friends. The glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child. But personally, I'd mud-wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sack of French porn."