Homeworld Remastered Available for Pre-Order

[Jarhead0331]

The game is still beautiful. Still full of style. Still superb. Still frighteningly difficult. It totally holds up, which shows just how far ahead of its time the game was when it was first released. Its been so long since I played the unmodded original that it is hard to compare how improved the graphics are...suffice it to say, it looks great.

There is this element of WH40K where the Imperium has forgotten how to construct certain technologies, such as Titans. I always say to myself, how can the knowledge of how to build something be lost when you have an example right there to behold and study. Its not logical and it doesn't make sense. However, look at Homewold. It is so perfect and it was made so long ago, yet NOBODY has succeeded in making a game nearly as good, or really even come too close to it, for that matter. Its as if game developers simply forgot how to do it...

[Gusington]

^I've said it before and I'll say it again...you are a hopeless romantic.

[LongBlade]

There is this element of WH40K where the Imperium has forgotten how to construct certain technologies, such as Titans. I always say to myself, how can the knowledge of how to build something be lost when you have an example right there to behold and study. Its not logical and it doesn't make sense. However, look at Homewold.

I'm afraid it's possible. For a long time historians were aware of Greek Fire but were unable to recreate it. True Damascus Steel was also unknown for centuries.

IIRC a few weeks back I ran across an article which discussed how there are computer programs in the US government which are still active and running real applications for which we have virtually forgotten how to program them. In another generation that knowledge won't be lost...but in five it might very well could be.

It is not implausible to suggest that things we know today can and will be forgotten - things that we take for granted and are highly useful. They can range the gamut - from metallurgy to medicine to mainframe computing.

article on nearly lost tech: https://www.atr.org/irs-chief-we-still-have-applications-were-running-when-jfk-was-president

[GDS_Starfury]

I always say to myself, how can the knowledge of how to build something be lost when you have an example right there to behold and study. Its not logical and it doesn't make sense.

consider that Iran has had F-14s for 30 years and still can't make new ones.

JH, during battles are you using the F hotkeys for battle groups and the strategic screen to move around rapidly?

[LongBlade]

I always say to myself, how can the knowledge of how to build something be lost when you have an example right there to behold and study. Its not logical and it doesn't make sense.

consider that Iran has had F-14s for 30 years and still can't make new ones.

Excellent point.

[MikeGER]

I always say to myself, how can the knowledge of how to build something be lost when you have an example right there to behold and study. Its not logical and it doesn't make sense.

...we are almost there in a decade or two from now with even more highly automated fabrications of consumer goods (lets say a mass-market smart phone) which also will include more and more complex 3D printing of components on the spot in the factory (i guess first probably in South Korea)
All the necessary information, construction plans, PLC-control codes and all such is stored max-encrypted in a cloud 'somewhere on the globe' and the poor local technician in the factory only know how to relace spare parts/modules of broken production equipment (looking through his augment reality glasses which explain how-to) replacing a vale, or a broken socket and plug in cables ...and the few workers left just fill up the basic resources and help in the logistic chain, where robots are to expensive to let them do that tasks too because labor is cheep

simple consumer products will maybe even 3D printed at everybodys (rich nations) home or overnight by local 3D-printer-shops and the (encrypted while coprighted) plans can still be used even when the inventor, who once programed them, is long retiered ...or suddenly fall victim to a natural disaster/war/etc...   

JH which graphics settings do you use to get the promotion video shiny results?
i am still fiddling   

[undercovergeek]

The game is still beautiful. Still full of style. Still superb. Still frighteningly difficult. It totally holds up, which shows just how far ahead of its time the game was when it was first released. Its been so long since I played the unmodded original that it is hard to compare how improved the graphics are...suffice it to say, it looks great.

There is this element of WH40K where the Imperium has forgotten how to construct certain technologies, such as Titans. I always say to myself, how can the knowledge of how to build something be lost when you have an example right there to behold and study. Its not logical and it doesn't make sense. However, look at Homewold. It is so perfect and it was made so long ago, yet NOBODY has succeeded in making a game nearly as good, or really even come too close to it, for that matter. Its as if game developers simply forgot how to do it...

RPS talks some sense at last.............

"I'm not sure the Homeworld games were first built with the expectation that they'd stand the test of time like this, but because there was so much care, because there's been nothing quite like them since, and because the remastering has been sensitive, this package comes across as beautifully timeless, and as essential as real-time strategy gets. Welcome home."

[Jarhead0331]

There is this element of WH40K where the Imperium has forgotten how to construct certain technologies, such as Titans. I always say to myself, how can the knowledge of how to build something be lost when you have an example right there to behold and study. Its not logical and it doesn't make sense. However, look at Homewold.

I'm afraid it's possible. For a long time historians were aware of Greek Fire but were unable to recreate it. True Damascus Steel was also unknown for centuries.

IIRC a few weeks back I ran across an article which discussed how there are computer programs in the US government which are still active and running real applications for which we have virtually forgotten how to program them. In another generation that knowledge won't be lost...but in five it might very well could be.

It is not implausible to suggest that things we know today can and will be forgotten - things that we take for granted and are highly useful. They can range the gamut - from metallurgy to medicine to mainframe computing.

article on nearly lost tech: https://www.atr.org/irs-chief-we-still-have-applications-were-running-when-jfk-was-president

Uh. Yeah. That was all sort of my point.

[Jarhead0331]

I always say to myself, how can the knowledge of how to build something be lost when you have an example right there to behold and study. Its not logical and it doesn't make sense.

consider that Iran has had F-14s for 30 years and still can't make new ones.

JH, during battles are you using the F hotkeys for battle groups and the strategic screen to move around rapidly?

That is because the Iranians are morons and they couldn't engineer their way out of a box. That is not a matter of lost technology, it's a matter of incompetence and lack of capability...knowledge never possessed cannot be knowledge lost. 

Yes, I use hot keys and the strategic display

[besilarius]

    When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.

    The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.

    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

Arthur C. Clarke's Three Laws.  (Great writer, lousy human.)

[mikeck]

Arthur C Clarke's long lost fourth law: any computer problem whether hardware or software can be solved by turning the computer off and then turning it back on again

[LongBlade]

There is this element of WH40K where the Imperium has forgotten how to construct certain technologies, such as Titans. I always say to myself, how can the knowledge of how to build something be lost when you have an example right there to behold and study. Its not logical and it doesn't make sense. However, look at Homewold.

I'm afraid it's possible. For a long time historians were aware of Greek Fire but were unable to recreate it. True Damascus Steel was also unknown for centuries.

IIRC a few weeks back I ran across an article which discussed how there are computer programs in the US government which are still active and running real applications for which we have virtually forgotten how to program them. In another generation that knowledge won't be lost...but in five it might very well could be.

It is not implausible to suggest that things we know today can and will be forgotten - things that we take for granted and are highly useful. They can range the gamut - from metallurgy to medicine to mainframe computing.

article on nearly lost tech: https://www.atr.org/irs-chief-we-still-have-applications-were-running-when-jfk-was-president

Uh. Yeah. That was all sort of my point.

Sorry, I completely misread your post.  :))

[RyanE]

I used to run a factory that had been operating for over 100 years in the same spot.  We had specially designed tooling equipment that still ran on leather belts.  But setting up a production run and maintaining a special diamond tooling machine required special knowledge and was almost an art.  The last guy to run and maintain it retired.  They tried replacing the machine and when that didn't work, they tried to reverse engineer it.  It never worked and we had to change our production standards because we could no longer hold the tolerances like the old machine.

Our knowledge of that process retired and couldn't be captured.

[mikeck]

What's amazing is that there are still people bitching on the steam forums about how the game is horrible and what a travesty it is and it's a disaster. Lol. It's the same damn game we all played 15 years ago it's just got better graphics for the love of Pete

[Jarhead0331]

What's amazing is that there are still people bitching on the steam forums about how the game is horrible and what a travesty it is and it's a disaster. Lol. It's the same damn game we all played 15 years ago it's just got better graphics for the love of Pete

Our hobby is doomed. Hopefully, the silent majority will speak for itself with purchases and the game will be a financial success.