Order of Battle: Pacific has now an official release date

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Apocalypse 31

Quote from: Boggit on May 02, 2015, 03:06:26 PMI don't see why you are getting so upset Apoc

It's pretty simple; I was looking forward to this game since its announcement in 2013, specifically some of the features that were advertised, such as ease of modding and cooperative multiplayer. Neither of these features were delivered and I paid $40 for a product that I wouldn't have bought had I known that these features weren't included.

Quote from: Swatter on May 02, 2015, 02:50:47 PM
Game developers are people too!

So are the people who buy their games, with money that they work hard for - and don't appreciated being lied to when it comes to game features.

Adherbal

Quotespecifically some of the features that were advertised, such as ease of modding

Perhaps it was poorly communicated somewere, but can you point me to where we said the game would be easily moddable? We've always said we think modding is very important and that we want to make the game as moddable as possible. But that actualy requires a substanional extra effort on the Unity3D engine. It does not allow importing external 3D models for example so we'll have to write our own readable txt format and scripts to bypass this. So this will take time and certainly was never a day 1 priority, so I doubt this was an "advertised feature" at any time.

I entered the games industry when Iain from Slitherine contacted me about the Napoleonic Total War 2 mod for RomeTW I worked on, and that got the ball rolling. In fact the majority of the people who worked on the game have been or still are involved in modding.

Apocalypse 31

Quote from: Adherbal on May 02, 2015, 06:00:16 PM
Perhaps it was poorly communicated somewere

Perhaps it was, then.

Quote from: Adherbal on May 02, 2015, 06:00:16 PM
I entered the games industry when Iain from Slitherine contacted me about the Napoleonic Total War 2 mod for RomeTW I worked on, and that got the ball rolling. In fact the majority of the people who worked on the game have been or still are involved in modding.

Congratulations on the game. Best of luck.

Adherbal

Small but significant step forward for modding:
http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=264&t=64251#p546321

You can now add new nations. "Unlocking" more and more textures for modding should now be pretty straightforward.

Main challenge remaining now is unit 3D models. Then we can have mods with new nations, units and sound effects.

Gusington

^That sounds like an entry point to mods for the Chinese, Soviets, Australians...running the gamut of the entire Pacific War from the 1930s on...


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Boggit

I think it will turn out well.

Adherbal is at least engaging with the community, openly facing any criticism, and letting us know how he will address those criticsms. As it's his first independent game I think we should cut him some slack. Sure let him know what concerns you, as Apoc has done, but give him the chance to respond before ripping his head off. You may find Adherbal exceeds your expectations.

I hope Gus is right about mods for the Chinese, Soviets and Aussies. BTW, adding the rest of the Commonwealth - British, Indians, Dutch would be good too - the Burma, Imphal/Kohima battles and beyond are quite interesting. Bill Slim's final battle in Burma was just outstanding - virtually annihilating the Japanese armies.

The Soviets are of less interest to me - apart from the Nomonhan battle, they are pretty much out of it for most of the war. In 1945 they opportunistically attacked with overwhelming forces and were only engaged for less than a month! (9th August - 2nd September 1945). I'm not sure they'd be that much of a challenge to play.

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Boggit

@Adherbal

You mentioned Erik Rutins had done a Java Sea scenario - do you have a link, or can I download it through the game like with Battle Academy, Pike and Shot etc?

Thanks. :)
The most shocking fact about war is that its victims and its instruments are individual human beings, and that these individual beings are condemned by the monstrous conventions of politics to murder or be murdered in quarrels not their own. Aldous Huxley

Foul Temptress! (Mirth replying to Gus) ;)

On a good day, our legislature has the prestige of a drunk urinating on a wall at 4am and getting most of it on his shoe. On a good day  ::) Steelgrave

It's kind of silly to investigate whether or not a Clinton is lying. That's sort of like investigating why the sky is blue. Banzai_Cat

Jarhead0331

I really, really, really would love to see other eras with this engine. Korea and Vietnam would be awesome. I'd love to see carriers and their planes at Yankee Station in the Gulf of Tonkin supporting troops over Vietnam.
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Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 03, 2015, 11:31:23 AM
I really, really, really would love to see other eras with this engine. Korea and Vietnam would be awesome. I'd love to see carriers and their planes at Yankee Station in the Gulf of Tonkin supporting troops over Vietnam.

I was thinking along the same lines! There is a lot of potential with this game engine. A modern-day People's General type of game would also be a must-buy for me.

Cyrano

All right, I'll bite...as if I need another game...

For those having a good time, how is this NOT PanzerCorps with PTO skin?

Or is it and you just like PC with a PTO skin?

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Quote from: Boggit on May 03, 2015, 10:42:34 AM
@Adherbal

You mentioned Erik Rutins had done a Java Sea scenario - do you have a link, or can I download it through the game like with Battle Academy, Pike and Shot etc?

Thanks. :)

There is no way to currently distribute player-made scenarios, which is very unfortunate because it will lessen the likelyhood of players finding/downloading custom content. I'm not sure the feasibility of adding an in-game downloader but I dont ever see that happening with a Slitherine game - or at least any time soon.

Erik posted his scenarios on the Slitherine forums
http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=374&t=64204

Boggit

Quote from: Steelgrave on May 03, 2015, 11:59:04 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 03, 2015, 11:31:23 AM
I really, really, really would love to see other eras with this engine. Korea and Vietnam would be awesome. I'd love to see carriers and their planes at Yankee Station in the Gulf of Tonkin supporting troops over Vietnam.

I was thinking along the same lines! There is a lot of potential with this game engine. A modern-day People's General type of game would also be a must-buy for me.
Add me to the list! O0
The most shocking fact about war is that its victims and its instruments are individual human beings, and that these individual beings are condemned by the monstrous conventions of politics to murder or be murdered in quarrels not their own. Aldous Huxley

Foul Temptress! (Mirth replying to Gus) ;)

On a good day, our legislature has the prestige of a drunk urinating on a wall at 4am and getting most of it on his shoe. On a good day  ::) Steelgrave

It's kind of silly to investigate whether or not a Clinton is lying. That's sort of like investigating why the sky is blue. Banzai_Cat

Boggit

Quote from: Apocalypse 31 on May 03, 2015, 12:39:25 PM
Quote from: Boggit on May 03, 2015, 10:42:34 AM
@Adherbal

You mentioned Erik Rutins had done a Java Sea scenario - do you have a link, or can I download it through the game like with Battle Academy, Pike and Shot etc?

Thanks. :)

There is no way to currently distribute player-made scenarios, which is very unfortunate because it will lessen the likelyhood of players finding/downloading custom content. I'm not sure the feasibility of adding an in-game downloader but I dont ever see that happening with a Slitherine game - or at least any time soon.

Erik posted his scenarios on the Slitherine forums
http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=374&t=64204
A good point. Adherbal?

@Apoc - Thanks for posting the link. O0
The most shocking fact about war is that its victims and its instruments are individual human beings, and that these individual beings are condemned by the monstrous conventions of politics to murder or be murdered in quarrels not their own. Aldous Huxley

Foul Temptress! (Mirth replying to Gus) ;)

On a good day, our legislature has the prestige of a drunk urinating on a wall at 4am and getting most of it on his shoe. On a good day  ::) Steelgrave

It's kind of silly to investigate whether or not a Clinton is lying. That's sort of like investigating why the sky is blue. Banzai_Cat

Adherbal

Technically a content sharing system isn't too hard to do. To do it properly however it would probably need a rating system, sorting & filtering, previews etc. Since Slitherine keeps expanding their PBEM system this seems like a logical addition for them to handle.

Doesn't Steam Workshop do things like that though? Perhaps we can look into that.

In related news: The basic model importing is done. After next week's patch modders will be able to add new unit models.