Oriental Empires -- 4x historical strategy

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Martok

#120
January 20, 2016, 02:59:16 PM
Incidentally, jomni, Bob Smith did answer your earlier question: 

Quote from: jomni on January 15, 2016, 02:23:04 AM
What I'd like to see is if they will incorporate different Chinese schools of thought / philosophies that influence your faction's culture and government bureaucracy  (Confucianism, Taoism, Legalism, Mohism).  Choose to adopt one over the other and you get benefits and penalties.  Or if they are already embedded / pre-assigned to the different factions.


His response: 

QuoteThe Chinese practiced all of these simultaneously, so it wouldn't be fair to make you pick one. So they're actually represented in the game by having you build temples and schools in cities. You can only have one type in each cities, but different cities can have different types. They'll have local effects, and also faction development effects which depend on the proportions you have of each.


http://www.orientalempires.com/forum/index.php?topic=24.msg208#msg208

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Martok

#121
January 20, 2016, 03:00:42 PM
He also linked to a historical documentary on China that covers a lot the period(s) the game incorporates: 




"Like we need an excuse to drink to anything..." - Banzai_Cat
"I like to think of it not as an excuse but more like Pavlovian Response." - Sir Slash

"At our ages, they all look like jailbait." - mirth

"If we had lines here that would have crossed all of them. For the 1,077,986th time." - Gusington

"Government is so expensive that it should at least be entertaining." - airboy

"As long as there's bacon, everything will be all right." - Toonces

Boggit

#122
January 20, 2016, 03:18:14 PM
I watched Red Cliff this morning which reignited my interest in this period. Not a bad film at all (Dir. John Woo) set in the time of the 3 Kingdoms - Cao Cao, Liu Bei, Sun Quan etc are all represented, and some nice battle scenes.
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Gusington

#123
January 20, 2016, 03:28:36 PM
2000 BC...wow.
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Nefaro

#124
January 20, 2016, 05:42:21 PM
Quote from: Gusington on January 20, 2016, 03:28:36 PM
2000 BC...wow.

There may be a couple old geezers around here who can regale you with stories about how it was back then.

MetalDog

#125
January 20, 2016, 06:51:11 PM
Cue bob and Windi in 3...2...1...
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Gusington

#126
January 20, 2016, 08:59:26 PM
I think Windy's retirement party was in 2000 BC.
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jomni

#127
January 21, 2016, 01:03:43 AM
Quote from: Martok on January 20, 2016, 02:59:16 PM
Incidentally, jomni, Bob Smith did answer your earlier question: 

Quote from: jomni on January 15, 2016, 02:23:04 AM
What I'd like to see is if they will incorporate different Chinese schools of thought / philosophies that influence your faction's culture and government bureaucracy  (Confucianism, Taoism, Legalism, Mohism).  Choose to adopt one over the other and you get benefits and penalties.  Or if they are already embedded / pre-assigned to the different factions.


His response: 

QuoteThe Chinese practiced all of these simultaneously, so it wouldn't be fair to make you pick one. So they're actually represented in the game by having you build temples and schools in cities. You can only have one type in each cities, but different cities can have different types. They'll have local effects, and also faction development effects which depend on the proportions you have of each.


http://www.orientalempires.com/forum/index.php?topic=24.msg208#msg208

Makes sense. Good that it's there.

Martok

#128
January 22, 2016, 03:41:54 PM
Incidentally, the new trailer that was originally released on the Explorminate website is now available to the general public: 




"Like we need an excuse to drink to anything..." - Banzai_Cat
"I like to think of it not as an excuse but more like Pavlovian Response." - Sir Slash

"At our ages, they all look like jailbait." - mirth

"If we had lines here that would have crossed all of them. For the 1,077,986th time." - Gusington

"Government is so expensive that it should at least be entertaining." - airboy

"As long as there's bacon, everything will be all right." - Toonces

tgb

#129
April 05, 2016, 06:33:48 PM
Good news and bad news.

The good news is that when the game comes to Steam it will come as a finished product.  No early access, so it should be (hopefully) stable and mostly free of bugs.  The bad news is it's not going to happen this month.

Developers have decided to scrap EA and go with a closed beta instead.  The feeling is that the feedback they get will be more focused and productive.  It also tells me that they aren't desperate for cash, which is a good thing.

You can apply for inclusion in the beta (as I have) by going to the website, registering for the forum, and then sending an email request.

Grim.Reaper

#130
April 05, 2016, 06:52:19 PM
I would have preferred early access since I really like that model...but hopefully the extra time and closed beta will be worth the wait in the end.

As for participating in the beta, are they letting anybody in or just a select number?

Gusington

#131
April 05, 2016, 07:21:08 PM Last Edit: April 05, 2016, 07:22:52 PM by Gusington
Thanks for posting tgb. I am taking the above as good news.

EDIT: Holy crap their forum is identical to ours...Simple Machines and all that.
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tgb

#132
April 05, 2016, 07:31:36 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on April 05, 2016, 06:52:19 PM
I would have preferred early access since I really like that model...but hopefully the extra time and closed beta will be worth the wait in the end.

As for participating in the beta, are they letting anybody in or just a select number?

They're bringing a dozen or so people in at a time in waves.  I don't know if there's a cap on the total.

MengJiao

#133
April 05, 2016, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: tgb on April 05, 2016, 07:31:36 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on April 05, 2016, 06:52:19 PM
I would have preferred early access since I really like that model...but hopefully the extra time and closed beta will be worth the wait in the end.

As for participating in the beta, are they letting anybody in or just a select number?

They're bringing a dozen or so people in at a time in waves.  I don't know if there's a cap on the total.

That's not how China was built.

FarAway Sooner

#134
April 05, 2016, 09:45:22 PM
The cap came much later.
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