Middle East campaign series releases sep. 24

[panzerde]

So I am really intrigued by the period and area covered, no issue there....one of the reasons I am undecided is I own the Mideast 67 game from HPS...never really got into it much, even though I liked the material.  I know this game is not the same, but I am concerned the same thing will happen with this game.  Not that I want to detract from this game, but if anyone owns both, can they tell me their opinion on the differences?

There's a massive difference in scale. JTS/HPS Mideast 67 is operational, with units that are at least companies and usually larger. Turns are, IIRC, a couple of hours and hexes are a kilometer or more. ME 67 is intended to model entire operations, with you in the role of a senior commander.


CS:ME is grand tactical/tactical. Units are platoons, turns are shorter (I think length can vary by scenario) and hexes are 250m. The result is a game where weapons systems have a more obvious impact on combat and where the combat is much faster and more dramatic. CS:ME models the smaller engagements that would be the fights you have over a turn or two in ME 67. Your role is more that of the task force commander rather than say, a corps commander.


Don't get me wrong; I quite enjoy ME 67. Operational games tend to be somewhat dry for a lot of players though, and tougher to get into than tactical games. I find CS:ME at the right scale for me tactically: squad level "firefights" aren't my favorite because they usually don't capture enough of an engagement to be meaningful. CS:ME is a step up from that is scale, and you can get an entire "battle" rather than just a firefight.


CS:ME also covers conflicts that ME 67 doesn't. ME 67 is primarily focused on the Six-Day War with some scenarios that cover other Arab-Israeli conflicts. CS:ME covers all of the Arab-Israeli conflicts ftom the 1948 War of Independence up through the 1980s, but also has scenarios covering the Anglo-French attack on Port Said during the Suez Crisis, Jordanian actions against the PLO, Syrian attacks versus Jordan, the Egyptian police action in Aden/Yemen, and a variety of raids and other smaller actions. There's a lot of content in this game at a very accessible level - smaller scenarios might have only 20 or so units per side.


Hope that helps!

[Grim.Reaper]

Thank you very much for the additional information...does sound like a good game.  Likely won't survive the weekend without making the purchase:)

[-budd-]

Just do it ;)

[Grim.Reaper]

Just do it ;)

Your a bad influence:)

[mirth]

[Grim.Reaper]

Your not helping either:)  In recent days I have bought Heroes in Normandie, Grand Ages Medieval, NBA 2k16, FHM2, etc....trying to at least let the CC cool off a bit....

[mirth]

Buy it now before you max out your limit with something foolish, like groceries or gas.

[-budd-]

http://matrixgames.com/store/582/Campaign.Series:.Middle.East.1948-1985

[panzerde]

Really, would budd and mirth steer you wrong?  O0

[Staggerwing]

Well, I bit. Will have to wait until tomorrow to play.

[-budd-]

welcome aboard.......I think we have a movement going on here.

[panzerde]

If you're just getting started with the game, don't overlook some of the cool extras like the JTCS Unit Viewer that have been included. Really useful for learning the specifics of a unit and for comparing the characteristics of units. There are a lot of detailed characteristics modeled for each platoon type in the game. The Unit Viewer can really help understand them.

[Staggerwing]

Thanks for the tip!

[Grim.Reaper]

Haven't watched in myself yet, but they just put up a video tutorial on one of the boot camp missions...gonna watch now:)

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3941689

[Warhorse]

Thanks very much for the support guys, it is VERY much appreciated!!