Women and wargaming

[JasonPratt]

Monopoly and most classic American board games fit all three descriptions, but are not regarded as Euros.

Although admittedly, Euros do have those characteristics, too.  ;)

I've heard some people say that Euros are non-combat games characterized by less random luck (apart from initial setup perhaps) and more pure strategy, but I can think of very few examples that don't involve some luck factors (beyond initial setup) along the way.

[GJK]

GJK that's awesome .....how dare they taunt you so !!! ???

I love musical theatre, I love west side story, I love games .......it's a win , win , win for me  in fact I was watching "sleeping with the enemy " a night or two ago and their is a segment in there of west side story , the guy was singing about being a jet ...well , duh , who wouldn't want to be a jet 
So I NEED that game !!

Everything that you need is at that link that goes to boardgamegeek.com (just scroll down to the 'files' section).   Print it out, grab a friend or friends, a bottle or two (or three or more) of wine (or your favorite adult beverage) and enjoy!

[bayonetbrant]

Monopoly and most classic American board games fit all three descriptions, but are not regarded as Euros.

Bzzzzzzt - most American games are won by being the last man standing, as a result of knocking everyone else out of the game (Risk, Monopoly, Sorry, etc)

The other thing that you have with a lot of other American games is that they become memory/knowledge-based games, like Scrabble or Trivial Pursuit or pick-a-crappy-movie-game-from-the-90s, along with all the varying iterations of kids memory games and/or 'logic' games like Mastermind.

[bayonetbrant]

for which these rough and mean men ridiculed me for as you can see here 

and for which you deserved every bit of it! ;)

[Crazy Girl]

GJK that's awesome .....how dare they taunt you so !!! ???

What she said. Heck yeah! Score. You're #1 on the kool krazies list. I actually own the vinyl record of West Side Story soundtrack.
Too awesome. I think you just made my day. And no face to face game for me remember. I never made it to the table.

for which these rough and mean men ridiculed me for as you can see here 

Btw, these guys that taunted you, they don't know what's up? You can't buy class, you just can't.
I refuse to call them men. That's a big word. Can't throw that around like that. You da man.

The pancake picture was stolen from the Facebook page...

*gasp* A thief among us... No. I thought it was genius. Made it my wallpaper.

Bzzzzzzt - most American games are won by being the last man standing...

Really? In this thread. What's wrong with being the last woman standing? I know it's a habit. I ain't mad at ya.
And I like memory game okay... I'm good at it. Those preschoolers have nothing on me.
But seriously, thank you all for your suggestions. All of you. Looks like I have a bit more research to do.

I need to pack my backpack because my spring break starts tomorrow and I feel like I have ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD...
*skips away from whatever this is*

[Emeraldlis]

Oh dear ...what did I start ! Good to know what is and what isn't a euro game though , I've been wanting to know that for a while :)

GJK , thanks for letting me know how to get that game , I'll download and maybe post how I get on with it , maybe I'll play west side story in the background  along with that glass of wine from LB ( yeah I think I'll take the wine there mate and leave the spatula for another time   ::)  ....maybe after downing the wine  ) 

Brant leave the guy alone ..........he's probably got some very dangerous pirouette moves going on !!  :D

[Windigo]

Well, I am glad to see the pissy contest has moved on to more noble pursuits like defining what a war-game is and the diff between a Euro and Amero game is.

Other than that I have nothing noteworthy to say other than I like Goatfury's new handle.

[bayonetbrant]

Really? In this thread. What's wrong with being the last woman standing?

Somewhere there's a joke about "women shouldn't be standing" but I won't be the one to make it 

I think you just made my day. And no face to face game for me remember. I never made it to the table.

You know you guys are like 40 miles apart.  You could grab B_C and get some face-to-face gaming in some time at the FLGS.

he's probably got some very dangerous pirouette moves going on !!  :D

That's the only time in history that anyone's put "GJK" and "pirouette" in the same thought! 

[GJK]

he's probably got some very dangerous pirouette moves going on !!  :D

That's the only time in history that anyone's put "GJK" and "pirouette" in the same thought! 

It's the kinder, gentler side of GJK....

[JasonPratt]

Re: Risk -- I was thinking non combat games obviously. Oranges to oranges, not to cans of Mountain Dew.  :P

Re: Sorry -- you don't knock out your opponent and aren't the last one standing, even metaphorically. You can mess with your enemies a little, but it only sets them back.

Re: Monopoly -- I concede this one, technically, since the goal is to bankrupt everyone else. In practice I've never played a game that long, because we came up with different rules (first to X). I contend that the game as thus practiced (to avoid people losing their minds out of boredom and hatred ;) ), still wouldn't be considered a Euro game, though: no resource management, no worker placement, no separate boards with a common shared ground. A game can be called a Euro without all, or with only one, of those factors, but the factor would have to be quite prevalent -- which is why Carc and Catan tend to be classified as Euros, although they'd be on the fuzzy edge. Catan is an area control game with some resource management; Carc has a very important (if truncated) worker placement factor. Kingdom Builder and Small World are all about the area control, but not about resource management or meeples (much less independent player boards), so I don't usually see them counting, as two contrasting examples.


....LORD, FINALLY DONE ON BATTLEFLEET GOTHIC DOWNLOAD!

Um. See y'all next month...  :D

[Jarhead0331]

This thread is far more entertaining than anything tabletop gaming has to offer. 

[GJK]

This thread is far more entertaining than anything tabletop gaming has to offer. 

Well there's always Candy Crush on facebook if that's the kind of social gaming that you enjoy....  ^-^

[Windigo]

Pretty soon his tabletop gaming will be Candy Land and Mousetrap

[GDS_Starfury]

[Crazy Girl]

Oh dear ...what did I start !

Nothing. They debate about it all the time... It was bound to come up.

Well, I am glad to see the pissy contest has moved on to more noble pursuits like defining what a war-game is and the diff between a Euro and Amero game is.

And I still don't know the difference. Sad.

Really? In this thread. What's wrong with being the last woman standing?

Somewhere there's a joke about "women shouldn't be standing" but I won't be the one to make it 

Did you set me up? Genius. If not, still funny.

You know you guys are like 40 miles apart. You could grab B_C and get some face-to-face gaming in some time at the FLGS.

More like 30. Grab? Funny. He's going to be PO'd when he see's this.  Face-to-face time? Ha! Even funnier. He doesn't even have time for himself. Poor thing. He's really gonna mad at me now. *deep breath: tells herself, "Don't go into Dragon mode." More later.

Good luck Jason. Thanks for all your help.

This thread is far more entertaining than anything tabletop gaming has to offer. 

Wait for it.... It gets better...

(Full scale Dragon mode. Oh bleep!)
B_C... #1 on my Liste de Merde. He put himself there on Friday, March 4, 2016 around noonish. *deep breath* I want to gut him, cut him, slice him, dice him, and mash him, douse in something flammable and then set him on fire. I'm a fire breathing Dragon.
Game on B_C, you f'd up now. I'm gonna get you when you least expect it.
Payback is a whole batch of biatches!!! No, I'm not mad. We're still friends. I don't hate you. I anathematize you...