Coup in Turkey?

[Boggit]

Moreover, as they had a lot of top generals and admirals involved you'd think that they already be clued up to the conditions necessary for a successful coup.

It doesn't make much sense to me, other than a put up job.

[Gusington]

 I agree and also think it was put together by Erdogan.

[Sir Slash]

Col. Ralph Peters was on FOX the night of the coup and said this is not the way a military coup occurs. You don't launch one when the head of Govt. is out of the country, you do it when you know right where he is so you can get to him. I thought he didn't know what he was talking about at the time but maybe he suspected more than he was telling. This has to have Obama thinking, "I wish I had thought of that about a year ago".  ;D

[Boggit]

Apparently around 100 generals and admirals have been arrested, 3,000 judges, 15,000 teachers, all the Deans of the universities...

I cannot believe that all these senior people would risk a coup without having planned it in great detail. That it failed so quickly begs the question of why it failed so quickly. Either the Turks are staffed with hopeless incompetents, or there was something else going on. The fact that media shows police thugs working these people over, and the fact that the media are saying that the generals are being denied legal representation and process suggests another agenda at work.

[Staggerwing]

At this point I'm going to say there was indeed an actual coup in Turkey... and it looks very successful.

[Barthheart]

At this point I'm going to say there was indeed an actual coup in Turkey... and it looks very successful.

O0

[mirth]

At this point I'm going to say there was indeed an actual coup in Turkey... and it looks very successful.

You got that right

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/world/europe/turkey-erdogan-gulen.html

[Barthheart]

At this point I'm going to say there was indeed an actual coup in Turkey... and it looks very successful.

You got that right

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/world/europe/turkey-erdogan-gulen.html

Crap! There goes Turkey.......  >:(

[mirth]

At this point I'm going to say there was indeed an actual coup in Turkey... and it looks very successful.

You got that right

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/world/europe/turkey-erdogan-gulen.html

Crap! There goes Turkey.......  >:(

I have a feeling that 3 month State of Emergency will become permanent.

[bayonetbrant]

Anyone wondering whether this whole coup thing was a sham, set up so Erdogan could eliminate his political opponents and achieve full autocratic rule?

This quote from my buddy who knows more about the area than any 4 of us combined

Carefully weighing my words of estimative probability, I would currently assess: it is very likely that the coup was simply a failed coup; very unlikely (but not impossible) that the regime knew the attempt was coming and took the immense risk of letting it play itself out; and no chance at all that it was an orchestrated "fake coup" as many Erdogan opponents would like to believe.

[Staggerwing]

Maybe, but the Afterparty isn't exactly a good time had by all.

[Gusington]

Why can't it be a fake coup?

[MetalDog]

No matter how thoroughly we convince ourselves we are capable of pulling off something like a fake coup, in most probabilities, we aren't.  And even if we were, the end result is still the same: take advantage of the situation to purge your enemies, secure your hold on power and move further in the direction you have already started down.

[Sir Slash]

New name: Islamic State of Erdoganistan. Or, Kurds You're Surrounded-stan.

[Nefaro]

New name: Islamic State of Erdoganistan. Or, Kurds You're Surrounded-stan.

Once he's solidified the next level of dictatorship I wonder how long it will be until they start pouring it on the Kurds, our only reliable Islamic ally in that area, even further.  As if we needed to doubt our alliance with Turkey any more.