Strategic Command WWII: War in Europe

[JudgeDredd]

I didn't know the manual was going to be like this



That's a £70 game right there  :-[

[GJK]

Why are they so bad at drawing maps in the Strategic series.....

Because most hex/counter computer wargames choose to tile the images for their maps and that gives it a very "repeated pattern" look to them.  I can understand that choice where the game has a scenario and map builder for the user so that you can create custom or random maps but I do not understand why a game that covers the entire war at the same scale needs to do that instead of just painting a nice looking map of Europe/Asia. 

[GJK]

I think learning to play TOAW is the problem.

It's not too hard to learn but the you are pushing thousands of counters in mega scenarios.

There are helps though like player side AI to automate the task.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of the 1000's of counters where you just keep moving up the strongest units to attack, advance if you can, rinse and repeat a 1000 times to hopefully get closer to their capital...ugh.  There are a number of scenarios out there though that are at much higher scale - like corps/army.  There was a fun one that tried to mimic the classic "Third Reich" boardgame and I recently played one that covered all of the Eastern front at corps scale that was very manageable and very challenging. 

[sandman2575]

Gotta admit, that's a mighty fine lookin' manual right there...

But as JD says, probably priced accordingly...

[JudgeDredd]

^ Agreed

[airboy]

I didn't know the manual was going to be like this



That's a £70 game right there  :-[

They will probably have sharply different prices for the physical copy of the game compared to a download with a pdf.

[JudgeDredd]

^ Those games go into the Collectors Edition and they cost.

Not saying they're not worth it - everyone has their price - just that you should be prepared to pay.

[steve58]

I really don't even understand why Matrixgames is offering these super-nice hard-bound manuals.  After a patch or two or ten, the manual become useless.

[Wolfe1759]

Hopefully it will be more in line with DC: Barbarossa (which also has a nice hardback manual) - £30 on Steam (PDF manual), £43 on Matrix (PDF manual) or £56 + P&P (Hardback manual)

If it is as the above I'll probably forgo the printed manual because whilst very nice (I have the War in the West one) it's not worth doubling the price of the game to get.

P.S. just looked back at my purchase history on Steam and I got DC: Barb for £23.99 in a sale 6 months after release .

[Zulu1966]

I didn't know the manual was going to be like this



That's a £70 game right there  :-[

They will probably have sharply different prices for the physical copy of the game compared to a download with a pdf.

Didnt think this game was complex enough to warrant a manual that big...

[Grim.Reaper]

Not being fooled by manuals again....War in flames already screwed me once:)

[mirth]

Not being fooled by manuals again....War in flames already screwed me once:)

It wasn't a nice manual? : P

[Grim.Reaper]

Not being fooled by manuals again....War in flames already screwed me once:)

It wasn't a nice manual? : P

Nice manual for $100...game sucked and continues to suck.

[Steelgrave]

Soooo.....essentially they were selling the manual and the game was a throw in?   ::)

[mirth]

Soooo.....essentially they were selling the manual and the game was a throw in?   ::)

Whoa, whoa. Slow down. Not a working copy of the game.