Steam Holiday/Winter Sale Rumored to Start Later Today!

[AchillesLastStand]

So if you're waiting for something like Civ VI to received the Steam discount treatment, looks like you need to wait about seven months:

http://www.pcgamer.com/steam-sale-dates/?utm_content=buffer2ce45&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer_pcgamerfb

Nice article,
This comment sums it up perfectly for me.

"Digital download is still $59.99

That is what I keep saying.
With Digital Download you have infinite stock, in an infinite warehouse with no storage cost and no second hand market.

Every major factor the leads to depreciation of value does not exist. There are only two factors at play. What price the publisher is willing to sell at, and whether consumers will buy at that price point.

Publishers can wait, almost indefinitely, for product to recoup its costs. Where as before they had a 3-6 month window before product either saturated 2nd hand market or product was no longer fashionable.

Steam Sales and the like at an entirely artificial method to excite the market, create the illusion that digital games are cheap, and to further lock gamers in VALVe's dirty little monopoly"

[Anguille]

I caved, dammit.  I picked up Oriental Empires and Stars in Shadow -- both Early Access games.  :-[  Granted, I was always going to get the former, and the latter is looking pretty good, but still. 

I need help...

Seems reasonable to me...and good choices

[Martok]

Yes, but I'm worried about the "slippery slope" aspect.  It always starts with purchasing just one or two games... 

[Hofstadter]

Im still tossing up between CMANO and Ultimate general civil war (even though its not on sale theyre around the same price now)

On one hand im curious about the future support of CMANO.

On the other hand...I just cant summon up the rats butts to find the american civil war interesting...

[JudgeDredd]

...I just cant summon up the rats butts to find the american civil war interesting...

WHAT!  :wow:

The American Civil War is incredibly fascinating

CMANO is a very in-depth game. It still has some interface issues but there's a huge amount of gaming in there for you to lose months in without having to subscribe to the DLC stuff they are putting out (which appear to be very high quality, at least in presentation). They also seem to update the core game a fair bit.

[Hofstadter]

...I just cant summon up the rats butts to find the american civil war interesting...

WHAT!  :wow:

The American Civil War is incredibly fascinating

CMANO is a very in-depth game. It still has some interface issues but there's a huge amount of gaming in there for you to lose months in without having to subscribe to the DLC stuff they are putting out (which appear to be very high quality, at least in presentation). They also seem to update the core game a fair bit.

Its a by-product of my general distaste towards everything american, that tends to happen where I live

[Hartford688]

...I just cant summon up the rats butts to find the american civil war interesting...

WHAT!  :wow:

The American Civil War is incredibly fascinating

CMANO is a very in-depth game. It still has some interface issues but there's a huge amount of gaming in there for you to lose months in without having to subscribe to the DLC stuff they are putting out (which appear to be very high quality, at least in presentation). They also seem to update the core game a fair bit.

Its a by-product of my general distaste towards everything american, that tends to happen where I live

Better not get Ultimate General then.

Maybe this instead? Cheaper as well:

https://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/1439199191/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480074824&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=how+to+win+friends+and+influence+people&dpPl=1&dpID=51UGaSpCgkL&ref=plSrch

[Yskonyn]

Bah, no sign of LnL Publishing doing a black friday sale. So Command Ops 2 is out of the question.
I got the newly released Planet Coaster from Frontier instead. Good times with themepark building fun. The options are huge with this game and it has Steam Workshop support with already 30.000+ items... scary!
My son loves looking at the game too.   O0

[undercovergeek]

...I just cant summon up the rats butts to find the american civil war interesting...

WHAT!  :wow:

The American Civil War is incredibly fascinating

CMANO is a very in-depth game. It still has some interface issues but there's a huge amount of gaming in there for you to lose months in without having to subscribe to the DLC stuff they are putting out (which appear to be very high quality, at least in presentation). They also seem to update the core game a fair bit.

Its a by-product of my general distaste towards everything american, that tends to happen where I live

Better not get Ultimate General then.

Maybe this instead? Cheaper as well:

https://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/1439199191/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480074824&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=how+to+win+friends+and+influence+people&dpPl=1&dpID=51UGaSpCgkL&ref=plSrch

:DD

[JudgeDredd]

...I just cant summon up the rats butts to find the american civil war interesting...

WHAT!  :wow:

The American Civil War is incredibly fascinating

CMANO is a very in-depth game. It still has some interface issues but there's a huge amount of gaming in there for you to lose months in without having to subscribe to the DLC stuff they are putting out (which appear to be very high quality, at least in presentation). They also seem to update the core game a fair bit.

Its a by-product of my general distaste towards everything american, that tends to happen where I live

Better not get Ultimate General then.

Maybe this instead? Cheaper as well:

https://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/1439199191/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480074824&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=how+to+win+friends+and+influence+people&dpPl=1&dpID=51UGaSpCgkL&ref=plSrch

If I had tea in my mouth at the time, copiuos amounts would have left it in a hurry!
    :clap:  O0  :DD  <:-)  :bd:

[Martok]

I caved, dammit.  I picked up Oriental Empires and Stars in Shadow -- both Early Access games.  :-[  Granted, I was always going to get the former, and the latter is looking pretty good, but still. 

I need help...

Seems reasonable to me...and good choices

Actually, I think I'm going to get a refund on Stars in Shadow.  I didn't realize/had forgotten the maps were so damn small.  (I mean, seriously -- a "huge" map is a whopping 100 star systems?!?  Give me a break.)   


I mean, I get why not everyone enjoys playing on truly large map sizes (like those offered in Distant Worlds and Stellaris).  They can be resource hogs where your computer is concerned (even on modern machines), and even with improved tools & mechanics, managing an empire spanning umpteen star systems can be a PITA.  I totally understand that.  But why not at least offer larger maps as an option to those that want it?  100-star maps (or smaller) are immersion-killers for me; they simply don't feel "epic" enough in scope. 

Gah. 

[OJsDad]

I caved, dammit.  I picked up Oriental Empires and Stars in Shadow -- both Early Access games.  :-[  Granted, I was always going to get the former, and the latter is looking pretty good, but still. 

I need help...

Seems reasonable to me...and good choices

Actually, I think I'm going to get a refund on Stars in Shadow.  I didn't realize/had forgotten the maps were so damn small.  (I mean, seriously -- a "huge" map is a whopping 100 star systems?!?  Give me a break.)   


I mean, I get why not everyone enjoys playing on truly large map sizes (like those offered in Distant Worlds and Stellaris).  They can be resource hogs where your computer is concerned (even on modern machines), and even with improved tools & mechanics, managing an empire spanning umpteen star systems can be a PITA.  I totally understand that.  But why not at least offer larger maps as an option to those that want it?  100-star maps (or smaller) are immersion-killers for me; they simply don't feel "epic" enough in scope. 

Gah.

I didn't know about the map sizes Martok.  Glad you pointed it out, as I have it in my wish list and was thinking of picking it up at Christmas time.  But that small map size is a show killer for me also.  Hopefully it's something that will get changed with the final version. 

[Anguille]

I caved, dammit.  I picked up Oriental Empires and Stars in Shadow -- both Early Access games.  :-[  Granted, I was always going to get the former, and the latter is looking pretty good, but still. 

I need help...

Seems reasonable to me...and good choices

Actually, I think I'm going to get a refund on Stars in Shadow.  I didn't realize/had forgotten the maps were so damn small.  (I mean, seriously -- a "huge" map is a whopping 100 star systems?!?  Give me a break.)   


I mean, I get why not everyone enjoys playing on truly large map sizes (like those offered in Distant Worlds and Stellaris).  They can be resource hogs where your computer is concerned (even on modern machines), and even with improved tools & mechanics, managing an empire spanning umpteen star systems can be a PITA.  I totally understand that.  But why not at least offer larger maps as an option to those that want it?  100-star maps (or smaller) are immersion-killers for me; they simply don't feel "epic" enough in scope. 

Gah.

I see. Did they say it's going to stay like that? I imagine that it should be possible to have bigger maps.

[Martok]

I've started a thread in the Steam forums asking about it.  I'm not optimistic about the likely response (based on what I've garnered from both there and on the game's own forums), but we'll see. 

[Dammit Carl!]

Time to get down with some Squad action I suppose; hell, its not like I don't have tons of similar games anyway and it pays to have multiple platforms to get my killin' on in case I meet up with folks on the internets who want to play and use teamspeak / discord.