More Chinese Pet Poison

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Arctic Blast

Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on September 19, 2012, 06:01:31 PM
You think any value priced human food is better?
Stick to all natural food, no processed packaged stuff.

Pretty much. Billions get spent subsidizing massive food corporations so they can undercut healthy options and shovel out crap. Meanwhile, an entire generation has apparently been convinced by advertising that cooking is really hard. Oh, and pizza is a vegetable.


Silent Disapproval Robot

Except that the food corps are pushing hard to ensure that you can't buy from farmer's markets.  Nor can you find out where the ingredients in packaged foods actually come from, just where they were packaged.  Nor can you find out if the food you're eating is GMO or not.  The US has also gone and re-categorized toxic sewage waste as a "natural" fertilizer and, in some states, mandated its use.  If biosolids from wastewater plants were limited to straight sewage, it might not be so bad (if you could get the asshats to stop dumping paints, oils, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, and cleaning products down the drain), but most sewage systems also include stormwater runoff, so you're getting whatever happens to have been lying in the streets and gutters as well as the byproducts of car exhausts, tire wear, etc all concentrated into a nice, toxic sludge which is baked, mixed with wood chips (or construction waste in some states), then sprayed on farm fields or sold to gardeners as organic fertilizer.

Mr. Bigglesworth

Quote from: Arctic Blast on September 19, 2012, 11:21:27 PM
Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on September 19, 2012, 06:01:31 PM
You think any value priced human food is better?
Stick to all natural food, no processed packaged stuff.

Pretty much. Billions get spent subsidizing massive food corporations so they can undercut healthy options and shovel out crap. Meanwhile, an entire generation has apparently been convinced by advertising that cooking is really hard. Oh, and pizza is a vegetable.


Don't stop there.... People everywhere get cancer at younger and younger ages. Same for diabetes, etc.
If a food scientist has screwed with it, you don't want to eat it.
"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; "
- Shakespeare's Henry V, Act III, 1598

Windigo

Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on September 20, 2012, 02:35:40 PM
Quote from: Arctic Blast on September 19, 2012, 11:21:27 PM
Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on September 19, 2012, 06:01:31 PM
You think any value priced human food is better?
Stick to all natural food, no processed packaged stuff.

Pretty much. Billions get spent subsidizing massive food corporations so they can undercut healthy options and shovel out crap. Meanwhile, an entire generation has apparently been convinced by advertising that cooking is really hard. Oh, and pizza is a vegetable.


Type 2 diabetes is a lifestyle disease - typically you are fat and inactive and your poor pancrease cannot keep up to the shit you eat - lose the weight, eat more fruit and veggies, and increase your activity and violets... its better!

Don't stop there.... People everywhere get cancer at younger and younger ages. Same for diabetes, etc.
If a food scientist has screwed with it, you don't want to eat it.
My doctor wrote me a prescription for daily sex.

My wife insists that it says dyslexia but what does she know.

Mr. Bigglesworth

Lots of disease comes from lifestyle. You could call Lyme Disease a lifestyle disease of hikers.  :P

"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; "
- Shakespeare's Henry V, Act III, 1598

LongBlade

Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on September 20, 2012, 05:07:37 PM
Lots of disease comes from lifestyle. You could call Lyme Disease a lifestyle disease of hikers.  :P

Or dog walkers.

I picked it up this summer thanks to talking one of my beasts for a walk. Good times.
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

Arctic Blast

I'm often surprised that you never heard people calling for reductions in government subsidization of food corps. Do people just not realize that billions of dollars are going there?

Windigo

Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on September 20, 2012, 05:07:37 PM
Lots of disease comes from lifestyle. You could call Lyme Disease a lifestyle disease of hikers.  :P

lyme disease has an external vector - ticks

Type 2 diabetes is fat inactive people livin' the dream of doughnuts, bigmacs and watching reality TV
My doctor wrote me a prescription for daily sex.

My wife insists that it says dyslexia but what does she know.

Mr. Bigglesworth

So type 2 diabetes also has an external vector of donuts and bigmacs. Maybe home electronics as well!
"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; "
- Shakespeare's Henry V, Act III, 1598

Windigo

Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on September 21, 2012, 04:44:00 PM
So type 2 diabetes also has an external vector of donuts and bigmacs. Maybe home electronics as well!

its not you're choice to get bit by a tick, but it is entirely your choice how you eat and be active .... lifestyle
My doctor wrote me a prescription for daily sex.

My wife insists that it says dyslexia but what does she know.

Mr. Bigglesworth

it may seem so. Do you really think the world would pour so much into advertising if it did not return behavioral changes in customers?
"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; "
- Shakespeare's Henry V, Act III, 1598

LongBlade

Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on September 21, 2012, 05:06:47 PM
it may seem so. Do you really think the world would pour so much into advertising if it did not return behavioral changes in customers?

Point of information: advertising is about awareness. It can't make you do anything. It can, however, introduce you to temptation ;)
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

bob48

^Ha! You got that right - I've just done the rounds of my fav wargames publishers sites; LnL, GMT, MMP, Academy...Twitch, twitch.....
'We few, we happy few, we band of brothers'

'Clip those corners'

Recombobulate the discombobulators!

Mr. Bigglesworth

Quote from: LongBlade on September 21, 2012, 07:27:21 PM
Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on September 21, 2012, 05:06:47 PM
it may seem so. Do you really think the world would pour so much into advertising if it did not return behavioral changes in customers?

Point of information: advertising is about awareness. It can't make you do anything. It can, however, introduce you to temptation ;)


Wrong.
I wrote a long reply which this local portal decided to vaporise to nag with an acceptance of terms of use. WTF cant they do that when you first log on?


Anyway, read Influence
http://www.amazon.com/Influence-ebook/dp/B002BD2UUC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1348334478&sr=8-3&keywords=influence
"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; "
- Shakespeare's Henry V, Act III, 1598

LongBlade

Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on September 22, 2012, 12:21:55 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on September 21, 2012, 07:27:21 PM
Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on September 21, 2012, 05:06:47 PM
it may seem so. Do you really think the world would pour so much into advertising if it did not return behavioral changes in customers?

Point of information: advertising is about awareness. It can't make you do anything. It can, however, introduce you to temptation ;)


Wrong.
I wrote a long reply which this local portal decided to vaporise to nag with an acceptance of terms of use. WTF cant they do that when you first log on?


Anyway, read Influence
http://www.amazon.com/Influence-ebook/dp/B002BD2UUC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1348334478&sr=8-3&keywords=influence

Not sure what's in his book.

I will say this: online advertising has proven that people don't buy things due to advertising. At least not directly. I've had over a decade of dealing with online advertising, and if I only made money based on someone clicking on an ad and then buying something, every site I worked for would have gone out of business.

I can provide a host of real-world examples that I have personally seen if you'd like.
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.