Tribe Suing Beer Companies For Creating Drunk Indians

Started by Jarhead0331, February 14, 2012, 06:18:23 PM

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Jarhead0331

This is a good one...

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LINCOLN, Neb. –  An American Indian tribe sued some of the world's largest beer makers Thursday, claiming they knowingly contributed to devastating alcohol-related problems on South Dakota's Pine Ridge Indian Reservation.

The Oglala Sioux Tribe of South Dakota said it is demanding $500 million in damages for the cost of health care, social services and child rehabilitation caused by chronic alcoholism on the reservation, which encompasses some of the nation's most impoverished counties.

The lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court of Nebraska also targets four beer stores in Whiteclay, a Nebraska town near the reservation's border that, despite having only about a dozen residents, sold nearly 5 million cans of beer in 2010.

Tribal leaders and activists blame the Whiteclay businesses for chronic alcohol abuse and bootlegging on the Pine Ridge reservation, where all alcohol is banned. They say most of the stores' customers come from the reservation, which spans southwest South Dakota and dips into Nebraska.

"You cannot sell 4.9 million 12-ounce cans of beer and wash your hands like Pontius Pilate, and say we've got nothing to do with it being smuggled," said Tom White, the tribe's Omaha-based attorney.

Owners of the four beer stores in Whiteclay were unavailable or declined comment Thursday when contacted by The Associated Press. A spokeswoman for Anheuser-Busch InBev Worldwide said she was not yet aware of the lawsuit, and the other four companies being sued -- SAB Miller, Molson Coors Brewing Company, MIllerCoors LLC and Pabst Brewing Company -- did not immediately return messages.

The lawsuit alleges that the beer makers and stores sold to Pine Ridge residents knowing they would smuggle the alcohol into the reservation to drink or resell. The beer makers supplied the stores with "volumes of beer far in excess of an amount that could be sold in compliance with the laws of the state of Nebraska" and the tribe, tribal officials allege in the lawsuit.

The vast majority of Whiteclay's beer store customers have no legal place to consume alcohol since it's banned on Pine Ridge, which is just north, state law prohibits drinking outside the stores and the nearest town that allows alcohol is more than 20 miles south, explained Mark Vasina, president of the group Nebraskans for Peace.

The Connecticut-sized reservation has struggled with alcoholism and poverty for generations, despite an alcohol ban in place since 1832. Pine Ridge legalized alcohol in 1970 but restored the ban two months later, and an attempt to allow it in 2004 died after a public outcry.

The reservation encompasses some of the nation's most impoverished counties. U.S. census statistics place Shannon County, S.D., as the third-poorest, with a median household income of $27,300 and nearly half of the population falling below federal poverty standards.

The tribe views the lawsuit as a last resort after numerous failed attempts to curb the abuse through protests and public pressure on lawmakers, White said. He said the tribal council voted unanimously about four months ago to hire his law firm.

The lawsuit says one in four children born on the reservation suffer from fetal alcohol syndrome or fetal alcohol spectrum disorder. The average life expectancy is estimated between 45 and 52 years, the shortest in North America except for Haiti, according to the lawsuit. The average American life expectancy is 77.5 years.

"The illegal sale and trade in alcohol in Whiteclay is open, notorious and well documented by news reports, legislative hearings, movies, public protests and law enforcement activities," the lawsuit states. " All of the above have resulted in the publication of the facts of the illegal trade in alcohol and its devastating effects on the Lakota people, especially its children, both born and unborn."

Nebraska lawmakers have struggled for years to curb the problem, and are considering legislation this year that would allow the state to limit the types of alcohol sold in areas like Whiteclay. The measure would require local authorities to ask the state to designate the area an "alcohol impact zone."

The state liquor commission could then limit the hours alcohol sellers are open, ban the sale of certain products or impose other restrictions.

Nebraska state Sen. LeRoy Louden of Ellsworth, whose district includes Whiteclay, said he introduced the measure with support from county officials who have seen their health care and jail incarceration costs rise.

I say they should settle out of court.  FREE SMALLPOX INFECTED BLANKETS FOR EVERYONE!

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LongBlade

I saw that a few days ago. I'm not really sure it's the brewing companies or the retailer's fault if people go across the border and smuggle it in.
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Jarhead0331

Quote from: LongBlade on February 14, 2012, 06:20:13 PM
I saw that a few days ago. I'm not really sure it's the brewing companies or the retailer's fault if people go across the border and smuggle it in.

How about the God damn Indians who are drinking the beer?  You know, personal responsibility and all that?
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LongBlade

Well, that's where I'm heading.

The tribe claims it's the beer company's and retailers' fault.

I don't subscribe to that. No one is forcing them to buy the alcohol.
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son_of_montfort

4.9 million 12oz cans of beer? When are they starting the complaint? That can't be yearly, right?!
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MIGMaster

Creating Drunk Indians ?   I thought that was the only kind of Indian there was ? Just talk a walk around Regina.....

Epee1

It's actually the governments fault for creating a welfare society.  Kind of like what they/governement is doing to the middle class now.  Few more years, and we will be right there with them.  In fact I may join them soon, if we keep going the way we are headed, because drunk will be the only thing to keep you sane.

son_of_montfort

Quote from: Epee1 on February 15, 2012, 08:34:46 AM
It's actually the governments fault for creating a welfare society.  Kind of like what they/governement is doing to the middle class now.  Few more years, and we will be right there with them.  In fact I may join them soon, if we keep going the way we are headed, because drunk will be the only thing to keep you sane.

I'll agree it was the government's fault... Andrew Jackson's government. And I don't think the creation of "a welfare society" was the main problem for the Native Americans.

I don't even know if Native Americans on reservations can claim government welfare? I suppose they can, but they have their own particular legal definitions and standing, similar to the Amish.
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bayonetbrant

maybe they oughta sue God for giving them the hands they need to hold the beer, and the mouth to ingest it.
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Jarhead0331

Quote from: bayonetbrant on February 15, 2012, 12:58:01 PM
maybe they oughta sue God for giving them the hands they need to hold the beer, and the mouth to ingest it.

I think a better defendant using that theory would be to sue their parents.  I hear it is very hard to get personal jurisdiction over the Lord.
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mirth

Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 15, 2012, 01:45:17 PM
I think a better defendant using that theory would be to sue their parents.  I hear it is very hard to get personal jurisdiction over the Lord.

On the other hand, I hear that the Lord has extremely deep pockets.
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son_of_montfort

Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 15, 2012, 01:45:17 PM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on February 15, 2012, 12:58:01 PM
maybe they oughta sue God for giving them the hands they need to hold the beer, and the mouth to ingest it.

I think a better defendant using that theory would be to sue their parents.  I hear it is very hard to get personal jurisdiction over the Lord.

Correct me if I am wrong, but haven't people tried to sue God before in real life?
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Quote from: MIGMaster on February 15, 2012, 05:49:56 AM
Creating Drunk Indians ?   I thought that was the only kind of Indian there was ? Just talk a walk around Regina.....


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Epee1

#14
I heard if you have a beer and an attorney you can sue God?  (kidding, JH, just kidding)


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