CMBN 2.0 - are you kidding me?

SgtRock · December 11, 2012, 01:53:54 PM

Battle Front just released 2.0 for CMBN

If you a new customer you have to do the following.

1. Buy CMBN 1.0
2. install CMBN 1.0
3. Active license.
4. Download & install the 1.1 patch
5. Buy CMBN 2.0 Upgrade
6. Download & install the 2.0 upgrade.
7. Another License ???

This doesn't even include the install and license of the CW module. Gee I wonder what can go wrong?

This looks like a customer service nightmare!

Why is BattleFront still selling the 1.0 version of CMBN? One would think there would be some sort of auto utility to do this crap!

Tuna · December 11, 2012, 02:00:02 PM

To be fair, I think they lowered the price of CMBN another 10 bucks.. but you're right.. you should be able to buy it as 2.0!

SgtRock · December 11, 2012, 02:04:17 PM

The issue isn't the price, it's all the install and license nightmares. If steam worked like this, they would have gone out of business!

fran · December 11, 2012, 02:34:04 PM

From the Battlefront.com website. There will be a 2.0 version to buy soon...

Lastly, the Combat Mission: Battle for Normandy v1.0 base game remains available at a special sale price of $35. A new full package upgraded to v2.0 will be made available shortly at the regular price, and v1.0 eventually phased out entirely.
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Tuna · December 11, 2012, 02:41:49 PM

Saw a thread on there that said you didn't have to install 1.1.. as it's fixes are in the 2.0 Upgrade... I still have not taken the CMBN plunge due to price, but it's getting really attractive now!

Yskonyn · December 11, 2012, 02:58:44 PM

You do not need the 1.11 patch.
You can upgrade to v2.0 fine from the vanilla v1.0

SgtRock · December 11, 2012, 03:07:01 PM

QuoteSaw a thread on there that said you didn't have to install 1.1.. as it's fixes are in the 2.0 Upgrade... I still have not taken the CMBN plunge due to price, but it's getting really attractive now!

The readme notes for the 2.0 upgrade says you have to update to 1.1 before you upgrade to 2.0?

Glad to see they are coming out with CMBM 2.0 version but, with more modules, patches, licenses and maybe even more upgrades coming, I think Battlefront needs a utility to install, update, & license the game. Remember if you change your video card or other hardware you have to re-install and re-license this stuff again!!!

undercovergeek · December 11, 2012, 03:20:08 PM

you need 1.1 but you do NOT need 1.11, 2.0 includes all 1.11's fixes

to be fair this is only the same nightmare anyone else has to face when they join the bottom of the ladder for a game thats been out for a bit

The 3rd age mod for MTW2? An upto date Stainless Steel? Darth's most recent patch for Empire? Warhammer total war - and thats just the Total War franchise

RooksBailey · December 11, 2012, 03:30:09 PM

Quote from: SgtRock on December 11, 2012, 02:04:17 PM
The issue isn't the price, it's all the install and license nightmares. If steam worked like this, they would have gone out of business!

BF really makes some bizarre decisions. This whole idea of needing to pay $10 to upgrade an old game just rubs me the wrong way. I mean, does Paradox charge you $10 to upgrade CK2 with one of their mega patches? Nope. In fact, I can't think of a single publisher that does this. I like CMBN, but considering I paid $55 for the original game, and now need to pay another $10 for a patch (of all things), I am getting a bit disgusted with this nonsense.

undercovergeek · December 11, 2012, 03:34:57 PM

Quote from: RooksBailey on December 11, 2012, 03:30:09 PM
Quote from: SgtRock on December 11, 2012, 02:04:17 PM
The issue isn't the price, it's all the install and license nightmares. If steam worked like this, they would have gone out of business!

BF really makes some bizarre decisions. This whole idea of needing to pay $10 to upgrade an old game just rubs me the wrong way. I mean, does Paradox charge you $10 to upgrade CK2 with one of their mega patches? Nope. In fact, I can't think of a single publisher that does this. I like CMBN, but considering I paid $55 for the original game, and now need to pay another $10 for a patch (of all things), I am getting a bit disgusted with this nonsense.

this isnt a patch, it isnt fixing anything thats broken - its new material for CMBN, new software, an update - you pay for CKIIs DLCs, you pay for Battlefronts new software - whats the difference?

RooksBailey · December 11, 2012, 03:43:57 PM

I'm going to have to disagree as this type of content would be considered patch material by any other publisher. When CK2 releases a patch, it always contains this type of new content for the base game regardless of whether you are buying the associated DLC or not. Most publishers would include this stuff gratis for their old customers and not charge for the privilege of updating a game they already paid for.

Don't misunderstand me: I think CMBN is a great game, but this nickle and dime stuff wouldn't be tolerated with most other games.

Ubercat · December 11, 2012, 03:47:11 PM

New material? You mean functionality that should have been in the game from the start? Functionality that mostly or completely existed in the first generation of Combat Mission games twelve years ago? I wonder how much the flamethrower (NON)patch is going to cost us?

undercovergeek · December 11, 2012, 04:03:25 PM

Quote from: Ubercat on December 11, 2012, 03:47:11 PM
New material? You mean functionality that should have been in the game from the start? Functionality that mostly or completely existed in the first generation of Combat Mission games twelve years ago? I wonder how much the flamethrower (NON)patch is going to cost us?

who says it should? you? are you the designer? the software company?

Right after my model of company car came out they released an updated one - do i get to go to BMW and say 'excuse me, you SHOULD have put those features in my car - i want them all installing in this one for free? Sound ridiculous? Just because we're talking about £10 instead of £10000 doesnt give anyone a divine right to say what should have been in your old version, and about that old version - you bought it, you paid for it, if ones morals were that high, dont buy it - and if you didnt buy it, youre in the wrong thread

My folks still have a black and white TV, fk me if im not taking that to Sony to demand my free colour update

mirth · December 11, 2012, 04:07:43 PM

We're not talking about a car, it's a computer game and it's common for publishers to provide UI and gameplay improvements for free. Battlefront can do whatever they want of course, but it isn't the norm for their industry.

undercovergeek · December 11, 2012, 04:15:11 PM

Quote from: mirth on December 11, 2012, 04:07:43 PM
We're not talking about a car, it's a computer game and it's common for publishers to provide UI and gameplay improvements for free. Battlefront can do whatever they want of course, but it isn't the norm for their industry.

its precisely because its a computer game that people think theyre entitled to something for free. Once the price escalates people have the good sense to realise its something they shouldnt/couldnt afford and are prepared to compromise on luxury models and tailor their purchase to their budget. But games? jesus, suggest you should spend £10 pounds on a game and its like taking food off your table!

Paradox will dig into a tiny part of CKIIs code, fiddle with user allowances and a few graphics and hey presto the Republic DLC and we will all pay £8 for it. What have battlefront done differently, added to the UI, added to the AI and other parts of the game.

Dont get me wrong, im not a fanboy before that gets thrown, i would have the same arguement for anyone that said they shouldnt pay for the Republic DLC for paradox. I just need one person to explain to me the difference between that, which you will happily pay for, and CMBN which you wont