Let's Talk: Wargame or Not

Started by Bison, May 21, 2013, 11:18:36 PM

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Grimnirsson

QuoteThe reality is that because there is no overarching controlling authority on "what is a wargame?" there will never be any sort of official definition. This does not mean we are having a useless discussion.

No, there's no official definition but we could end up with one :P

QuoteBut let's just be careful that we don't stray into attacking other people for disagreeing.

Not really sure, was that directed at me? If so I am not aware of attacking anyone here but if something came across this way unintentionally then... sorry  :(
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Barthheart

Quote from: Bison on May 22, 2013, 11:04:54 AM
OK.  Distant Worlds.  Wargame or not?  It's a good example of something with components of what has been discussed so far and is something outside of the historical catagory.

Not a wargame. Same for any 4x game. The main focus of the game is not war. War is not required to win the game.

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Quote from: Grimnirsson on May 22, 2013, 11:11:09 AMNot really sure, was that directed at me? If so I am not aware of attacking anyone here but if something came across this way unintentionally then... sorry  :(

Not directed at anyone. I just want to make sure we don't get out of hand.   Probably not a necessary warning, since this isn't BGG or CSW.
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Bison

OK.  Apple pizza does not involve a tomato based pizza sauce.  Usually like a cinnamon base, like apple pie.  It has apples, like apple pie.  I has a crust, like apple pie.  It doesn't have a crust cover, which is different from apple pie.  It has a light cheese sprinkle topping, which is different from apple pie.  It's damned good.

Bison

Quote from: Barthheart on May 22, 2013, 11:18:19 AM
Quote from: Bison on May 22, 2013, 11:04:54 AM
OK.  Distant Worlds.  Wargame or not?  It's a good example of something with components of what has been discussed so far and is something outside of the historical catagory.

Not a wargame. Same for any 4x game. The main focus of the game is not war. War is not required to win the game.

Hmmm....see I struggle with 4X games.  I guess that's why there is the concept of a grand strategy game, which could or could not be catagorized as a wargame.

Gusington

Apple pizza?? That's a pastry not a pizza. And an abomonation. Weirdo!
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Quote from: Bison on May 22, 2013, 11:25:01 AM
OK.  Apple pizza does not involve a tomato based pizza sauce.  Usually like a cinnamon base, like apple pie.  It has apples, like apple pie.  I has a crust, like apple pie.  It doesn't have a crust cover, which is different from apple pie.  It has a light cheese sprinkle topping, which is different from apple pie.  It's damned good.

So its a tart?

Barthheart

Quote from: Bison on May 22, 2013, 11:25:01 AM
OK.  Apple pizza does not involve a tomato based pizza sauce.  Usually like a cinnamon base, like apple pie.  It has apples, like apple pie.  I has a crust, like apple pie.  It doesn't have a crust cover, which is different from apple pie.  It has a light cheese sprinkle topping, which is different from apple pie.  It's damned good.

Then just eat a pie!  :P

LongBlade

Quote from: Bison on May 22, 2013, 10:45:34 AM

It's like a pie!  OMG!!!  Sweet, delicious, goodness.

It's not like a pie. It is a pie.

And pie != pizza.
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As an aside - it's hilarious that we're discussing the definitions of wargames as if this were the Oxford Debate Club, but we're about to go nuclear over putting apples on pizza  8)
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Quote from: Barthheart on May 22, 2013, 08:01:07 AM

Not quite, I like FPS games, I suck at them but I like playing them. Still not a wargame.

that depends.  Steel Beasts is most definetly a wargame whereas World of Tanks is not.

who the hell puts apples on pizza!
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Bison

I am proud of apple pizza.  I like apple pizza.   Therefore I must invoke my 5th amendment rights regarding any more questions involving apple pizza.

Barthheart

He's not nuts there is such a creature.....

http://www.marthastewart.com/894507/apple-pizza

But it's still weird and an abomination!  :P

LongBlade

Quote from: Barthheart on May 22, 2013, 11:37:02 AM
He's not nuts there is such a creature.....

http://www.marthastewart.com/894507/apple-pizza

But it's still weird and an abomination!  :P

Martha Stewart? Seriously? That's the best you got to defend Bison?

You might as well put him in a dress with panty hose.
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Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

Barthheart

Quote from: LongBlade on May 22, 2013, 11:45:17 AM
Quote from: Barthheart on May 22, 2013, 11:37:02 AM
He's not nuts there is such a creature.....

http://www.marthastewart.com/894507/apple-pizza

But it's still weird and an abomination!  :P

Martha Stewart? Seriously? That's the best you got to defend Bison?

You might as well put him in a dress with panty hose.

Well... that's what I was going for....  ;)