More 4x gaming: Endless Space

[mikeck]

Guys, I'm telling you Sword of the Stars 2" is good to go. There are still a few bugs but it is where most games are at release and better than most paradox games at release! As far as space 4xs go, it is not as complex as, say, Distant Worlds, bit there is a lot to it. The tactical combat is better than any other 4x hands down. There is tons to research and I think the Ship design system is great. there are just so many types of ships and configurations available. Design what you want. Missles ships, pd ships, torpedo cruisers, beam ships, assault cruisers, mix of all, etc,. Betterr than any 4x as well. The strategy level is basically a shell to support the tactical battles similar to total war games. Graphics are good and its a lot of fun watching your ship designs gloriously fail as you attack an enemy fleet carrying tons of missles and you have no point defenses.

It's not the greatest space game ever, but if u liked SotS prime, u will like this. I think it is on sale on one of those sights...for $7.99 or something. My 2 cents.

EDIT: of course, right after I post this, they send out a huge patch that created a bug I'm tbe economy.  Mecron stated that there will be a hotfix sent out Saturday AM

[son_of_montfort]

I noticed a lot of UI lag when I booted it up last night. Any way to lessen that?

[tgb]

Endless Space is still the better game.

[mikeck]

SoM, make sure u got the latest hotfix released early this am.

Tgb, to each their own. I find ES to be more polished and streamlined but far more simplified. I think which game is better depends on wjat you want. I will take some bugs if it means I get complex and deep tactical space combat and ship.design.

[Grim.Reaper]

So, today I believe is the last day for the "alpha" discount price (according to a post on their official forums) on Steam because tomorrow they release the beta.  With that said, I have been watching this one from the sidelines.  I'll have to admit, I love the idea of space games like this, but every time I purchase one, I become overwhelmed and really never play them long.  I have tried galcivII, SOTS, distant worlds, armada, etc.

Is this game different enough that you think I might enjoy?  Is it simple enough for someone not really good with these games?  Or since I didn't enjoy the other space games, I am very unlikely to enjoy this one too?

I really "want" to like one of these games since I love the concept so I am interested in what people say....

[undercovergeek]

So, today I believe is the last day for the "alpha" discount price (according to a post on their official forums) on Steam because tomorrow they release the beta.  With that said, I have been watching this one from the sidelines.  I'll have to admit, I love the idea of space games like this, but every time I purchase one, I become overwhelmed and really never play them long.  I have tried galcivII, SOTS, distant worlds, armada, etc.

Is this game different enough that you think I might enjoy?  Is it simple enough for someone not really good with these games?  Or since I didn't enjoy the other space games, I am very unlikely to enjoy this one too?

I really "want" to like one of these games since I love the concept so I am interested in what people say....

same camp as you grim, i see the epicness open up beforeme and come to a complete halt of oooo what do i do now? i always like a little 'get started this way' guide or a lets play vid to watch to get you kickstarted - but of all the ones i have barely started this one seems to be the best IMHO

[Grim.Reaper]

So, today I believe is the last day for the "alpha" discount price (according to a post on their official forums) on Steam because tomorrow they release the beta.  With that said, I have been watching this one from the sidelines.  I'll have to admit, I love the idea of space games like this, but every time I purchase one, I become overwhelmed and really never play them long.  I have tried galcivII, SOTS, distant worlds, armada, etc.

Is this game different enough that you think I might enjoy?  Is it simple enough for someone not really good with these games?  Or since I didn't enjoy the other space games, I am very unlikely to enjoy this one too?

I really "want" to like one of these games since I love the concept so I am interested in what people say....

same camp as you grim, i see the epicness open up beforeme and come to a complete halt of oooo what do i do now? i always like a little 'get started this way' guide or a lets play vid to watch to get you kickstarted - but of all the ones i have barely started this one seems to be the best IMHO

UC, are you saying you do own ES?  And if so, from what you see it appears the best for people like us?

[undercovergeek]

yup, i got in at alpha after all the hullaballoo here.

Its just so easy to play, everything has a mouse over context to let you know what its there for and what its supposed to do and why. I find with all these games theres a tipping point, a point at which you think right ive won this, but ive still got 6 hours to go to mop up - whereas this one challenges everystep of the way, have you won it or not? are you in the lead? and i like very much the combat system with the card useage - it has put some off i know but i like it this way

[Grim.Reaper]

yup, i got in at alpha after all the hullaballoo here.

Its just so easy to play, everything has a mouse over context to let you know what its there for and what its supposed to do and why. I find with all these games theres a tipping point, a point at which you think right ive won this, but ive still got 6 hours to go to mop up - whereas this one challenges everystep of the way, have you won it or not? are you in the lead? and i like very much the combat system with the card useage - it has put some off i know but i like it this way

Well, I pulled the trigger...keeping fingers crossed:)

[mikeck]

yup, i got in at alpha after all the hullaballoo here.

Its just so easy to play, everything has a mouse over context to let you know what its there for and what its supposed to do and why. I find with all these games theres a tipping point, a point at which you think right ive won this, but ive still got 6 hours to go to mop up - whereas this one challenges everystep of the way, have you won it or not? are you in the lead? and i like very much the combat system with the card useage - it has put some off i know but i like it this way

ES has a very slick UI and is very easy to get into. What's nice to see is these Indy developers trying new stuff instead of merely copying something older. Like it or not, the card system is unique and it seems thay the game is almost bug free at beta for Pete's sake

[tgb]

I noticed an update from Steam, so I launched the game.  Sure enough, the beta is out and I'm looking forward to diving in later. One thing I notice about the Pilgrims - they have the ability to abandon their home system and set up elsewhere.

[Bison]

I'm not sure how I feel about Endless Space.  Sure it has a pretty easy to use UI.  Some depth to research and colony development.  Ship design is ok, I guess.  Battles are meh imo.  I like the concept card driven battles, but frankly its not very exciting at all.

I'm going to play some more to see if mid-late game changes my mind currently at around turn 90 in my game.

[mikeck]

Yeah, lots of new 4x but unfortunately, none seem to fully scratch the itch. The best I think is Distant Worlds. Would like to play that but replace it with the Sword of the Stars combat system and the planet/system development of Endless Space. Argghh

[Bison]

I really enjoy Distant Worlds.

[mikeck]

I really enjoy Distant Worlds.

Me too....until combat comes around....*pew* *pew* *pew*!