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Boggit

#30
July 08, 2016, 07:39:24 AM
I think Jomni is right about the problems encountered in the unity conversion. I can understand the use of unity to create a cross platform rendition of the game, but for existing PC users the port seems less functional and aesthetically much more ugly than the original game. I realise the port was a one man effort, done part time, but it reflects this on release.

I suppose if I had not already been playing the original, I would have been less picky, but as Grim Reaper suggests FoG2 should have been an improvement, and not feel like a beta in comparison to what we already had. FoG is one game that is a real "go to" game for me, so I hope for the gaming community both versions will be offered rather than just FoG2, which for me - at least so far - is the poor man's version of FoG.

I'm happy to keep an open mind, depending on what the new developer does with it, but in the current release state I find it less aesthetically pleasing, less functional, and less user friendly in comparison to the original.

FoG2 is available as a free game to existing owners of FoG, which is a rational marketing decision, as I see it to migrate the very active FoG community over to FoG2. It is still early days, and while many in the FoG community - myself included - will welcome the new Army books, it remains to be seen what the general reaction will be to the new re-interpretation of the game, as well as what any future update will achieve.  In the meantime, I just hope that the new army books are compatible with the old FoG, but I suspect they are not.

The most shocking fact about war is that its victims and its instruments are individual human beings, and that these individual beings are condemned by the monstrous conventions of politics to murder or be murdered in quarrels not their own. Aldous Huxley

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On a good day, our legislature has the prestige of a drunk urinating on a wall at 4am and getting most of it on his shoe. On a good day  ::) Steelgrave

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jomni

#31
July 08, 2016, 08:50:18 AM
New add ons? Not compatible. The sad part is Old FoG is discontinued. And the old multiplayer server will be shut down. Some are actually sad that they cannot go back to Old FoG and settle for something that is a work in progress.

Hope the devs will take all these customer issues seriously.

Anguille

#32
July 08, 2016, 09:32:52 AM
Quote from: jomni on July 08, 2016, 08:50:18 AM
New add ons? Not compatible. The sad part is Old FoG is discontinued. And the old multiplayer server will be shut down. Some are actually sad that they cannot go back to Old FoG and settle for something that is a work in progress.

Hope the devs will take all these customer issues seriously.

I have just tried the new edition and just have to say how disappointed i am. It's a work in progress and it doesn't look 1/2 as good as the original game. They should have improved the original game instead...really bad.

Boggit

#33
July 08, 2016, 09:35:10 AM Last Edit: July 08, 2016, 09:37:30 AM by Boggit
Quote from: jomni on July 08, 2016, 08:50:18 AM
New add ons? Not compatible. The sad part is Old FoG is discontinued. And the old multiplayer server will be shut down. Some are actually sad that they cannot go back to Old FoG and settle for something that is a work in progress.

Hope the devs will take all these customer issues seriously.
That is bad news. Given the new product's current state, the old one seems to me far more polished, indeed a superior product. I play it a lot multiplayer, as the AI could be much better than it is. For me it is a sad day for fans of the game. :'(

I suspect that the changes the dev (not devs) will make will be fairly limited now that the game is 'finally' out. It has taken him a few years to get to where we are now. I applaud his efforts to create this, but in its present state the release is way too early. I suspect in part this is because the community were widely regarding it as vapourware, and having seen it, I wish it still was because of the abandonment of the older version. IMHO, this is all about cross platform sales, with the quality of the port being very much a secondary consideration. I have come to expect a high standard from Slitherine over the years, but this port in its current state falls very much short of the mark.

I hope Slitherine will review its policy on this game, listen to the fanbase, and reinstate the old game as an alternative. I'd prefer it to be renamed as a cross platform alternative to FoG, leaving the existing servers for the active FoG community. I have no doubt that they would continue buy the DLC army books as well. I certainly would.
The most shocking fact about war is that its victims and its instruments are individual human beings, and that these individual beings are condemned by the monstrous conventions of politics to murder or be murdered in quarrels not their own. Aldous Huxley

Foul Temptress! (Mirth replying to Gus) ;)

On a good day, our legislature has the prestige of a drunk urinating on a wall at 4am and getting most of it on his shoe. On a good day  ::) Steelgrave

It's kind of silly to investigate whether or not a Clinton is lying. That's sort of like investigating why the sky is blue. Banzai_Cat

Boggit

#34
July 08, 2016, 09:35:56 AM Last Edit: July 08, 2016, 09:38:07 AM by Boggit
Quote from: Anguille on July 08, 2016, 09:32:52 AM
Quote from: jomni on July 08, 2016, 08:50:18 AM
New add ons? Not compatible. The sad part is Old FoG is discontinued. And the old multiplayer server will be shut down. Some are actually sad that they cannot go back to Old FoG and settle for something that is a work in progress.

Hope the devs will take all these customer issues seriously.

I have just tried the new edition and just have to say how disappointed i am. It's a work in progress and it doesn't look 1/2 as good as the original game. They should have improved the original game instead...really bad.
+1 :(
The most shocking fact about war is that its victims and its instruments are individual human beings, and that these individual beings are condemned by the monstrous conventions of politics to murder or be murdered in quarrels not their own. Aldous Huxley

Foul Temptress! (Mirth replying to Gus) ;)

On a good day, our legislature has the prestige of a drunk urinating on a wall at 4am and getting most of it on his shoe. On a good day  ::) Steelgrave

It's kind of silly to investigate whether or not a Clinton is lying. That's sort of like investigating why the sky is blue. Banzai_Cat

Nefaro

#35
July 08, 2016, 10:40:42 AM
The units in FOG were from pics of painted tabletop miniatures.  From what I recall.



Boggit

#36
July 08, 2016, 11:10:39 AM
^^ That is my understanding too.
The most shocking fact about war is that its victims and its instruments are individual human beings, and that these individual beings are condemned by the monstrous conventions of politics to murder or be murdered in quarrels not their own. Aldous Huxley

Foul Temptress! (Mirth replying to Gus) ;)

On a good day, our legislature has the prestige of a drunk urinating on a wall at 4am and getting most of it on his shoe. On a good day  ::) Steelgrave

It's kind of silly to investigate whether or not a Clinton is lying. That's sort of like investigating why the sky is blue. Banzai_Cat

Wolfe1759

#37
July 08, 2016, 12:11:36 PM
Quote from: Boggit on July 08, 2016, 09:35:56 AM
Quote from: Anguille on July 08, 2016, 09:32:52 AM
Quote from: jomni on July 08, 2016, 08:50:18 AM
New add ons? Not compatible. The sad part is Old FoG is discontinued. And the old multiplayer server will be shut down. Some are actually sad that they cannot go back to Old FoG and settle for something that is a work in progress.

Hope the devs will take all these customer issues seriously.

I have just tried the new edition and just have to say how disappointed i am. It's a work in progress and it doesn't look 1/2 as good as the original game. They should have improved the original game instead...really bad.
+1 :(

+1
"In War: Resolution. In Defeat: Defiance. In Victory: Magnanimity. In Peace: Goodwill." - Winston Churchill

Zulu1966

#38
July 08, 2016, 03:14:58 PM
I picked this up a while ago and can only echo previous comments. As far as selling it goes - massive oversell from matrix - needed more work.
"you are the rule maker, the dictator, the mini- Stalin, Mao, Hitler, the emperor, generalissimo, the MAN. You may talk the talk and appear to be quite easy going to foster popularity, but to the MAN I say F*CK YOU." And Steve G is F******g rude ? Just another day on the BF forum ... one demented idiots reaction to BF disagreeing about the thickness of the armour on a Tiger II turret mantlet.

jomni

#39
July 08, 2016, 05:27:36 PM Last Edit: July 08, 2016, 05:29:09 PM by jomni
Quote from: Nefaro on July 08, 2016, 10:40:42 AM
The units in FOG were from pics of painted tabletop miniatures.  From what I recall.

Yeah, they retained the old pictures.  But I think Unity needs more hi-res ones to render better. The dev have pointed out that the Unity version allows for a higher level of zoom and this is what shows the pixelation. Obviously, they didn't have the time to remake those and that's a lot based on the army list and add-ons.

Boggit

#40
July 08, 2016, 05:52:20 PM
^^ And yet the original FoG with its lower res pictures/textures just looks so much better.
The most shocking fact about war is that its victims and its instruments are individual human beings, and that these individual beings are condemned by the monstrous conventions of politics to murder or be murdered in quarrels not their own. Aldous Huxley

Foul Temptress! (Mirth replying to Gus) ;)

On a good day, our legislature has the prestige of a drunk urinating on a wall at 4am and getting most of it on his shoe. On a good day  ::) Steelgrave

It's kind of silly to investigate whether or not a Clinton is lying. That's sort of like investigating why the sky is blue. Banzai_Cat

jomni

#41
July 08, 2016, 08:45:56 PM Last Edit: July 08, 2016, 08:47:47 PM by jomni
Played my first game after not playing for so long.  So I don't mind the pixelated graphics.  Clearly the UI needs improvement.  The text window and buttons are very big.  Probably preparing for the tablet release.  Would like for them to scale it down in the PC version.  The AI, did it improve?  I did not notice and find it easy to beat.  This is one of those reasons why I stopped playing FoG.  And I suck at multiplayer here compared to Pike & Shot.  DAG mode is not entirely as fun as Pike & Shot's skirmish mode.

The detailed combat prediction needs work.  It needs to use normal language and be very descriptive as oppose to abbreviations.  Pike and Shot / Sengoku Jidai is a good example.



How do you change facing?

Zulu1966

#42
July 09, 2016, 07:50:59 AM
Seem to remember you click on the unit and hold down and a white tringle appears which you can move around to change the facing. Unless they removed that as well.
"you are the rule maker, the dictator, the mini- Stalin, Mao, Hitler, the emperor, generalissimo, the MAN. You may talk the talk and appear to be quite easy going to foster popularity, but to the MAN I say F*CK YOU." And Steve G is F******g rude ? Just another day on the BF forum ... one demented idiots reaction to BF disagreeing about the thickness of the armour on a Tiger II turret mantlet.

panzerde

#43
July 09, 2016, 05:01:24 PM
Slitherine needs to wake up about the tablet market. It's dying. Sales of iPads and Android tablets are way, way down from previous years. Dell has stopped selling Android tablets entirely. It turns out that they aren't functional enough to be laptop replacements and they're too big to be phone replacements. People aren't buying them like they used too.

So, stop crippling game engines so you can sell them on tablets. It's a short-term boost in sales (I know they've had some past success doing this) at the expense of long-term viability of the game. What they've just done to FoG is going to seriously damage the game's community of players.

It's a shame that this port is so unfinished. I was just starting to get back into playing this system, and I'm not going to bother, now. I had some interest in the new army books, but again, no sale.
"This damned Bonaparte is going to get us all killed" - Jean Lannes, 1809

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gameleaper

#44
July 09, 2016, 05:07:43 PM
I have not read to-much back up in the thread, but I just got the new FOG 2, and I found I needed to be online to input my serial, this is a sad day for me as I wanted to be autonamouse and use my games on old PCs not connected to the net, and don't have current antivirus, correct me if I'm wrong but it definatly seemed like I had to be connected to the server to enter my serial.

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