DOOM

[alastair]

Given that I also lost a massive amount of research, I'd very much like the turn to be rolled back, and don't think we should impute anything from their silence other than an abstention from any particular position.

[parone]

iguess I should delay?

I haven't done my turn yet, since I don't want to put the time in if we are rolling back.

but I have to be out tonight and i'm really busy tomorrow, so since we are undecided, i'm going to delay 48.  hope that is ok.

[Bronwell]

I don't want to delay, but since we seem to be sitting on the fence, I think you have to delay until we decide what we are doing.  This late,  everyone is waiting to see what's going to happen and stales are virtually guaranteed.

The way I see it, we are roughly divided:

Parone:             no rollback
Haerdalas:        no rollback
Me (Bronwell):   rollback, but conflicted because of risk and willing to not rollback. 
Alastair:             rollback
Wingedflamez   ? - seems on the fence and conflicted for the same reasons I am.
Phobos              ?????
Faux                  ?????

Seems like 2 definite votes no rollback, 1 definite vote rollback, 2 fine either way, and 2 non-votes.

Given the possible catastrophic risk of rollback, I would change my vote to no rollback if we don't overwhelmingly agree to rollback.

[Wingedflamez]

I agree with Bronwell, I think in the absence of overwhelming desire to rollback we should play safe, and play the turn as it happened.

[Haerdalas]

The reason I voted against rollback, despite it having cost me a fairly large amount, is just that after this much time with this many hour invested in this game I really don't want to do anything that would risk completely breaking the game. I would vote against rollback even if doing so somehow caused me to lose half a dozen provinces. It just isnt worth the risk with the game in such a late stage.

[parone]

ok, I guess we just play on? 

'a magical event rendered all troops stationary, and planned magics were impossible.  all nations and forces have emerged from this malaise ready for combat!'

[Haerdalas]

Mrs Cake (don't ask) has left the area, we can stop hiding and start fighting again.

[Phobos]

Cocksucking microsoft has locked me out of my e-mail accounts.  All of them, my personal, gaming and business accounts.  I will need to establish a new account and jump through some hoops "for my protection."  I'm not giving the fuckers any more of my personal information.

[Haerdalas]

What, really? Damn... why did they do it to you? Any way to avoid it?

[parone]

god I hate Microsoft...

[Wingedflamez]

Yeah, if there was a better alternative to Windows I would go with it.  I cant stand Mac, and I don't have the give-a-shits to learn Linux.

Maybe Google will come up with their own OS.  That would be nice :D

[alastair]

Wait, through an email client?  Can't you still log in manually through the browser?

[Bronwell]

Has Phobos staled the last two turns?  It appears that he did as up until 10 minutes before this turn posted neither he nor Agartha appeared to have turns in.  It is impossible to check as the server shows all of us staling the last 3 turns.

I ask because he mentioned problems with his email account and I was wondering if he needed more time to get that straightened out.  I assume he meant that he couldn't receive the turns?  If that was the case, an admin could simply tell turns to be sent to a new email address.

[parone]

easy fix if I can get a new address

[alastair]

Phobos, if you could chime in here, that would be good.  If not, I move for a sub.  This is a good opportunity for someone to play endgame who normally doesn't get there, at least, and it is certainly better than AI.

W8aminute, maybe?