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Started by Toonces, March 24, 2012, 09:52:50 PM

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Staggerwing

I imagine that, since many of these planes were of such light construction, the spinning of the propeller and engine could induce a bank and roll. This would have been worst in rotary engines but might also affect in-line engines.
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Silent Disapproval Robot

Yup, that is torque from the spinning prop and it is worse with rotary engines.  Once you are flying you'll find that the effect will persist and you'll have trouble holding sustained turns if you're turning against the direction of torque.

Staggerwing

OTOH, Anthony Fokker once convinced the German Air Service that his planes' tendency to quickly bank right was a 'feature' to be exploited by a good pilot during a dogfight. Were he living now he would have fit right in at Microsoft...
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Nothing really rocks and nothing really rolls and nothing's ever worth the cost...

"Don't you look at me that way..." -the Abyss
 
'When searching for a meaningful embrace, sometimes my self respect took second place' -Iggy Pop, Cry for Love

... this will go down on your permanent record... -the Violent Femmes, 'Kiss Off'-

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I got my time machine, got my 'electronic dream!"
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TheCommandTent

Thanks for the info guys.  Knowing nothing of WWI flight this is all very interesting.  Now I just need to figure out how to dogfight correctly.  I know it will take some practice and patience but I just can't seem to get around behind the enemy plane.
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Silent Disapproval Robot

Try the Albatross D.Va instead.  For the most part, the German planes are much easier to fly than the Entente planes.

The SPAD 13 has a really twitchy rudder on it so it's hard to stay on target in a sustained turn.


Toonces

Agreed with the recommendation to stick with the German planes at first.  They seem much easier to fly IMO.

When you get better, you will learn to use the torque of the engine and various quirks of the planes to your advantage.  I learned a lot of this flying Aces High 2, where many of the planes had very strong torque in one direction or the other.  The Bf-109K4, in particular, had an extraordinary pull to the left which you could exploit with careful throttle management.  Some of the brit planes torqued right, so if you were in the 109 and could lure a Brit into turning left with you, you could beat even a better-turning aircraft.

Some of the Allied planes in RoF have very interesting flight characteristics.  I can't remember which one, I think the SE-5, has this horrible adverse yaw that could just throw me every time. 
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Slick Wilhelm

Quote from: Toonces on July 05, 2012, 04:14:32 PM
I learned a lot of this flying Aces High 2, where many of the planes had very strong torque in one direction or the other. 

Hey, nice to finally find another Aces High pilot! What was your callsign on AH? Mine was "Wanker". I flew AH from day one until 2004.

steve58

Isn't it about time for another one of their plane sales???  I may pick up a 2-seater next time...
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Quote from: Slick Wilhelm on July 05, 2012, 04:22:03 PM
What was your callsign on AH? Mine was "Wanker".

Seriously?


Staggerwing

Both English and American idioms lose some of their potency when they crisscross the Pond. After that they become internet callsigns.  :D
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Nothing really rocks and nothing really rolls and nothing's ever worth the cost...

"Don't you look at me that way..." -the Abyss
 
'When searching for a meaningful embrace, sometimes my self respect took second place' -Iggy Pop, Cry for Love

... this will go down on your permanent record... -the Violent Femmes, 'Kiss Off'-

"I'm not just anyone, I'm not just anyone-
I got my time machine, got my 'electronic dream!"
-Sonic Reducer, -Dead Boys

GJK

Ok, watched the video and downloading the "Free 2 Play" version.  Questions.  1) Will I be continuously flying in circles trying to get on the tail of my target only to have a split second to shoot before I over take the target or before it turns again and we endlessly repeat the "circle of death" ride?* and 2) Will I need to dig out a joystick to properly enjoy this game? 3) Is it really $7-$15 for every model airlplane that you want to add?

* I'm being cynical purposely because I really stink at combat flight simulators and yet my question bares the truth about my experiences playing combat flight simulators.
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Toonces

1.  I don't think you'll be going around in endless circles, unless you choose to.  If you do that against me I'm going to eat your lunch.

2.  Yes, you absolutely need a joystick, and if no rudder pedals I highly recommend a twisty stick (you can get these for not much money nowadays).  A TrackIR is a huge plus for RoF and any sim for that matter.

3.  Yes, but only if you choose to pay full price.  I VERY HIGHLY recommend looking around for Rise of Flight Iron Cross Edition on the online stores; it goes on sale for $10 fairly frequently and will hook you up with 7 more planes.  That will keep you amused a long time.  Then, await another RoF sale like the one at the start of this thread and cherry pick the planes you really want for $3 apiece or so. 

I posted this elsewhere, but here's a short MP video I made a while back and while not necessarily representative, it does show that it's not all going around in circles...
http://vimeo.com/38336593

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Silent Disapproval Robot

#57
The Rise of Flight store is having a 50% off sale on every plane except pre-orders from July 21-28th.

Toonces

Stormpowered (the guys that do Jutland and Distant Guns) have Iron Cross for $14.95.  I don't know what kind of hoops you have to jump through to buy something from them...it seems they have some sort of Steam-esque interface.
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steve58

Gamersgate currently has ROF: Iron Cross for $9.99

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The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.   Thomas Jefferson
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.   George Orwell  The truth is quiet...It's the lies that are loud.   Jesus Revolution
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