OOTP 15

[Nefaro]

This is my most anticipated American football game that seems to have fundamental player movement on the screen.....hoping it turns out well.

http://footballgeneralmanager.wordpress.com/

Yeah, that one definitely looked encouraging when I first saw it.  Wonder how long before we see it in a decent working state, however.  A year?  Two?

[JudgeDredd]

I'm pretty sure OOTP 1(?) was rough round the edges as was likely the first iteration of Football Manager. If they keep at Hockey Manager it'll be as cool (pun intended) as OOTP 14 is - and the same with any other sport they decide to break into (RUGBY!!! IS ANYONE LISTENING?)

[Bison]

I'm with Judge on the future of the hockey sim.  Give it a few iterations to shake out the bugs.

[Grim.Reaper]

I'm with Judge on the future of the hockey sim.  Give it a few iterations to shake out the bugs.

My issue with the hockey game isn't because it was the first release, knowing that it needed time to evolve.  I bought into the beta day one.  The problem I have is the developers made a horrible decision in releasing the game in the state it was.  Just was plain broken in many areas and they knew that since it was broken during the beta.  As of today, still not really playable, although they continue to work on it.  If they would have left the game in beta until stable I would have a totally different opinion,  plus, they tried to put too much into it for a first release, should have stuck to the fundamentals.

Since I love hockey I wanted it to succeed badly and hope someday it reaches it's potential.  I know some games get released with some bugs, but this was over the top and they knew it.

[Grim.Reaper]

Screenshots available

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/ootp-15-general-discussions/240357-first-ootp-15-screenshots.html

[Nefaro]

Screenshots available

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/ootp-15-general-discussions/240357-first-ootp-15-screenshots.html

The FaceGen player faces look better in this one.  More like a painting, which is better than the sometimes scary or malformed oddities that looked a bit too digitally randomized and morphed in the previous ones.

[Cougar_DK]

I just wish they would add an advisor that could help us non-baseballers understand what to do and what to be on the lookout of in the different screen, just so we could learn the ropes. I have OOTP 13 and must confess I start it up, presses a few buttons and then go meh.

So a button that analyzed the current screen regarding the up comming match, what to think about etc :)

[undercovergeek]

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/02/03/superior-bowl-beyond-the-sideline-football/#comments

has this been mentioned?

[Grim.Reaper]

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/02/03/superior-bowl-beyond-the-sideline-football/#comments

has this been mentioned?

Yep:)

http://grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=9154.0

[Grim.Reaper]

So I think tomorrow is last day for ootp pre orders, anyone take the plunge?  Still on the fence myself.

[vyshka]

Not necessarily 3d, but some visual representation really helps me to monitor the progress of the game and to encourage an enthusiastic investment in the plays made - rather than just simming it and have the results land. I've been dabbling with Basketball sims recently, and have Basketball Management Pro 2014 on Steam, now whilst the game seems to have an unusual front end - along with long load times, it does have a 2d representation of the game - and it really sucks you in - its reminiscient of the early 2d plays from Football Manager (previously Championship Manager - before its name was stolen away). I've been trying to find another Basketball management game that just has a better slicker interface and a bigger fan community - but I just can't find one that gives you the pleasure of a 2d simulation. :(

This resurgence in sports sims has me dabble in OOTP14 (and I have only  a vague interest in baseball from years ago), along with a search for the similar 2d representation for American Football. Yep, I'm a Brit who prefers American Football to normal football (soccer)! Again, I'm struggling to find an NFL simulator that gives me some visual representation of the plays so I can become more emotionally invested/excited as the game is simmed.

I remember talking with a friend who was involved with Football Manager development, and early on, the general opinion from fans was that they didn't need any graphical cues, because the textual information was enough. Then FM evolved to include 2d representation. The fans opinion being that this was enough to fine tune your team and strategy from the feedback in the 2d plays. FM wasn't going 3d ever, because the fans didn't want it! Now FM has evolved further to take on 3d and I think it doesn't suffer from this level of visual stimuli for the manager. Keep it as a choice and then you won't alienate the different play requirements from your playerbase.

have you checked out wolverine studios? they have pro and college basketball management games. i have version 2 of each but think they are on 3 now. i haven't upgraded as i am just not a basketball guy but i do enjoy the management aspect of the games.

Also Grey Dog Software now sells the Fast Break series which has been around for quite a while.

[JudgeDredd]

No - not me. I picked up 14 and I normally go every two or even third iteration

[Grim.Reaper]

Not necessarily 3d, but some visual representation really helps me to monitor the progress of the game and to encourage an enthusiastic investment in the plays made - rather than just simming it and have the results land. I've been dabbling with Basketball sims recently, and have Basketball Management Pro 2014 on Steam, now whilst the game seems to have an unusual front end - along with long load times, it does have a 2d representation of the game - and it really sucks you in - its reminiscient of the early 2d plays from Football Manager (previously Championship Manager - before its name was stolen away). I've been trying to find another Basketball management game that just has a better slicker interface and a bigger fan community - but I just can't find one that gives you the pleasure of a 2d simulation. :(

This resurgence in sports sims has me dabble in OOTP14 (and I have only  a vague interest in baseball from years ago), along with a search for the similar 2d representation for American Football. Yep, I'm a Brit who prefers American Football to normal football (soccer)! Again, I'm struggling to find an NFL simulator that gives me some visual representation of the plays so I can become more emotionally invested/excited as the game is simmed.

I remember talking with a friend who was involved with Football Manager development, and early on, the general opinion from fans was that they didn't need any graphical cues, because the textual information was enough. Then FM evolved to include 2d representation. The fans opinion being that this was enough to fine tune your team and strategy from the feedback in the 2d plays. FM wasn't going 3d ever, because the fans didn't want it! Now FM has evolved further to take on 3d and I think it doesn't suffer from this level of visual stimuli for the manager. Keep it as a choice and then you won't alienate the different play requirements from your playerbase.

have you checked out wolverine studios? they have pro and college basketball management games. i have version 2 of each but think they are on 3 now. i haven't upgraded as i am just not a basketball guy but i do enjoy the management aspect of the games.

Also Grey Dog Software now sells the Fast Break series which has been around for quite a while.

I actually like the fast break series much better than wolverine....wolverines games always seem unstable and the developer seems to disappear for long periods of time.

[Grim.Reaper]

No - not me. I picked up 14 and I normally go every two or even third iteration

That's what is holding me back, not sure if this years version has enough new stuff plus it seems it takes a patch or 2 where the new game gets the kinks worked out.  I was also surprised the discount was only $5, not much of an incentive either.

[sandman2575]

I took the plunge.  Although I'm not expecting 15 to be a major advancement over 14, even with the 3-D stadiums.  14 is at the moment an amazing game that I'm sure will hold up well for another year or two.