Battlefront.com DRM

[SgtRock]

CM with DRM like a Steak & Shit combo meal, you want the Steak but, you don't want the Shit that comes with it! :D

[Staggerwing]

I am one of the few people it seems, who have had no problem with that other DRM Storm Eagle studios.

Speaking of Storm Eagle Studios... why is their latest Jutland/DG bundle called "the Divorce Pack"? Are they separating from Stormpowered.com or does one of the honchoes need some quick alimony money?

[Asid]

CM with DRM like a Steak & Shit combo meal, you want the Steak but, you don't want the Shit that comes with it! :D

Is this your experience?

[Nefaro]

I am one of the few people it seems, who have had no problem with that other DRM Storm Eagle studios.

Speaking of Storm Eagle Studios... why is their latest Jutland/DG bundle called "the Divorce Pack"? Are they separating from Stormpowered.com or does one of the honchoes need some quick alimony money?

Probably something more akin to the latter.  It's been named that for quite awhile.

There was supposed to be some big announcement coming up a little time ago, but dunno if that ever happened.  People were speculating whether a new title in their naval battle series was coming, and whether it would be going forward or backward in history from WWI.

[RyanE]

It was about a year ago that they said to standby for a big announcement...still waiting.  There is still a huge bug in larger battles where shells disappear and guns don't fire.

[Boggit]

CM with DRM like a Steak & Shit combo meal, you want the Steak but, you don't want the Shit that comes with it! :D

Well, hardly anyone likes DRM. >:( That's pretty much a given, and you're preaching to the converted there. However, the Steak is pretty tasty, so I've learnt to eat around the other stuff. Like you I don't like the DRM, but you're missing out if you let it ruin the rest of the meal. :(

[RyanE]

Noted there are two more DRM issues on CMBN and CMFI forums.  One is someone upgraded their PC and can't run a module.  The other will need gsclean for some reason.  I know the error message well.

My rough estimate is about once a week someone has an issue with the DRM on one of the games.

[Boggit]

Noted there are two more DRM issues on CMBN and CMFI forums.  One is someone upgraded their PC and can't run a module.  The other will need gsclean for some reason.  I know the error message well.

My rough estimate is about once a week someone has an issue with the DRM on one of the games.

That's a pain. I wonder if Elvis has an idea about what is causing all this.

[Nefaro]

Noted there are two more DRM issues on CMBN and CMFI forums.  One is someone upgraded their PC and can't run a module.  The other will need gsclean for some reason.  I know the error message well.

My rough estimate is about once a week someone has an issue with the DRM on one of the games.

That's a pain. I wonder if Elvis has an idea about what is causing all this.

Peanut butter-banana sandwiches and too many pills? 

[RyanE]

I don't want to come across as trying to demonize BFC for using DRM.  But Steve has stated they don't know why this is happening.  The tech support guy on the forum freely admits its not right, but there is nothing they can do.  I suspect the number of issues is relatively small because a lot of people don't tinker with their PCs and Macs.  In fact, I have run into an issue with any change in processor speed kills random CMBN or CMFI modules.

I just want to make the original poster gets the balanced info and it doesn't get hidden by over-enthusiastic BFC supports.

[Nefaro]

I don't want to come across as trying to demonize BFC for using DRM. 

I've found that some BFC fans will accuse you of that no matter what. 

The only way such (often buggy) DRM is removed or replaced is via criticism, so don't give up.  Perhaps they will eventually adopt something friendlier.

[SgtRock]

CM with DRM like a Steak & Shit combo meal, you want the Steak but, you don't want the Shit that comes with it! :D

Is this your experience?

Go read the Battlefront Support forums for CMFI & CMBN!

The PC I use to play games is a shared resource, it's configuration changes daily, (Cell phones, MP3 players, Cameras, tablet, External hard drives, different media readers, different printers, sometimes a Dual monitor setup, sometimes not), I've had license error messages even with the CMFI demo, even though it's not suppose to be active. I was told by Battlefront support that I must re-configure my PC configuration the same as it was when CM games are install to avoid issues with using their games!!! That just not going to happen, so I no longer buy Battlefront games.

Don't know why the change, I own the first 4 CM games up to SF, 3 Strategic Command games and 2 Theatre of War games but, starting the CMBN their DRM changed big time then got a lot worst with CMFI.

[RyanE]

I think it changed because there were a lot of issues with licensing and licensing.  I have had 2 HDD failures in my time using CMSF and lost activations.  Plus the install, uninstall, and update process was heading towards nightmarish for BFC and users to manage.  I don't think they ever expected the new DRM to have this many issues.  Neither one is liked by most anti-virus programs.  It can be a real issue for people not used to going in and making changes to their setups.

In the end, they really feel they need the DRM and are will to inconvenience a few of their customers.  They have shown a willingness to walk away from parts of the market if they don't feel its worth the effort.  This is just another example.  That is most likely why they are still in business.

[Elvis]

Noted there are two more DRM issues on CMBN and CMFI forums.  One is someone upgraded their PC and can't run a module.  The other will need gsclean for some reason.  I know the error message well.

My rough estimate is about once a week someone has an issue with the DRM on one of the games.

That's a pain. I wonder if Elvis has an idea about what is causing all this.

Far and away the thing that causes it most is a change in a computers configuration. New motherboard, graphics cards, operating system upgrade etc.. And it doesn't happen to most people or I would be a lot more busy than I am. (I add printers, external HDs and other usb things daily and it hasn't happened to me) But for sure it happens. As, I think, someone mentioned it isn't a rampant problem. I can't say that I understand the underlying reason but I am aware of the trigger. When I see a ticket that starts out with "Every since I put my new motherboard in my computer I get an error with Gustav Line." I don't even need to read the rest of the email.

I would say that I get more tickets for lost passwords, license keys and more "user error" type things than I get for the gsclean files (i.e. I won't be out of a job if it went away :) ). That being said, eliminating this problem is on the programmers radar (that is saying something without compromising my NDA, right?)

[SgtRock]

Elvis do you know if there are any changes to the DRM for CMRT?