Yet another "it can't happen event"! :o
The "Brexit effect" strikes as Iceland beats England in the Euro 2016. With the Iceland win it seems obvious now: World markets are falling again, wars are now breaking out, it's the end of the world... and the sun won't rise tomorrow. :2funny:
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12016/10326978/englands-euro-2016-defeat-to-iceland-will-have-enormous-repercussions-says-steve-mcclaren
The simple truth is Iceland played better. Congratulations to Iceland on their victory. 8)
politics aside +1
well done them, lots of england didnt do this, didnt do that, werent this, werent that - simple fact is Iceland were better, wanted it more - our overpaid drama queens will just shrug, go on a luxury holiday and come back to their 250,000 a week in august
ive genuinely had it with national team, they simply cannot be arsed because theres no need to be arsed - no consequences to loss, in the league theyll be benched or transferred, for the country who gives a f***? i dont know when this shift in attitude occurred but long before kick off i said to a customer, my head says England, my heart really, really wants Iceland to win to show us up for the disgusting gravy train bunch of assholes the team is - hey and it worked!
Quote from: undercovergeek on June 28, 2016, 09:15:08 AM
pour overpaid drama queens will just shrug, go on a luxury holiday and come back to their 250,000 a week in august
Same thing can be said for most national teams.
Consensus is that my country (Belgium) played a good last match and most of them also play in the Premier League in England ...
Maybe Iceland was better because they aren't a part of the EU ;D.
They won because they played with their hearts... :smitten:
Quote from: undercovergeek on June 28, 2016, 09:15:08 AM
politics aside +1
well done them, lots of england didnt do this, didnt do that, werent this, werent that - simple fact is Iceland were better, wanted it more - our overpaid drama queens will just shrug, go on a luxury holiday and come back to their 250,000 a week in august
ive genuinely had it with national team, they simply cannot be arsed because theres no need to be arsed - no consequences to loss, in the league theyll be benched or transferred, for the country who gives a f***? i dont know when this shift in attitude occurred but long before kick off i said to a customer, my head says England, my heart really, really wants Iceland to win to show us up for the disgusting gravy train bunch of assholes the team is - hey and it worked!
+1
Yes, sorry about the politics, but the "media knows best" irony was just too much for me to ignore. @Pete Dero... don't tempt me to comment with your bait... lol! ;) :2funny:
As you and Anguille say, Iceland was by far the better team, and you could see they wanted it more. 8)
Good for Iceland! O0
I just think it's a very good England team.
Ask yourself this - how many players in that England squad are the featured played for their respective clubs?
I get that Iceland's aren't either, but they're not expected to be. England's squad was not well-constucted because they lack the parts needed to build one. Rooney as a #10? Really? Is Jack Wilshire really scaring anyone? Sterling? Rashford? Dier?
There's just no ooomph there
Suddenly I want to actually get around to playing Lords of Football which I've had at Steam for a couple of years now.
Put another way - compare the 2016 England team to the 2006 World Cup team they sent.
Man fo man, aside from Rooney (who was a much better player in 2006 than today) is there anyone on the '16 Euro team you'd take ahead of the comparable player on the '06 World Cup team?
^
I don't disagree with you Brant. However, It's a young team. The youngest in the tournament and they - obviously I think - need to get to, and implement, a game-concept.
I mean, look at Germany, Italy, Spain Holland and Portugal. When watching these teams play you know from the get go how they build up their game.
With England as of 2016 I just didn't see that.
I don't know if it's a coaching- or a team building problem, but something is missing.
I agree that England are a young team, and they haven't transitioned well out of the Gerrard-Lampard-Terry-Ferdinand era
But Italy are playing with a largely second-choice lineup, too. They're missing Marchisio, Montolivo, Verratti, Quagliarella (sp?), and didn't even call up Pirlo despite him towering over the last Euro tournament (they're trying to recapture the magic with an out-of-position De Rossi instead).
The Spanish are experienced, but they're just damned tired. They couldn't have looked less interested in the Italy game, and when you figure they've all played an extra season over the past 3 years with all their extra national team commitments, they probably just deserve a break.
The French have an identity crisis, the Germans don't know where the goals are going to come from, the Welsh are trying to capture lightning-in-a-bottle, the Portuguese always flame out in the final 4, the Belgians don't like each other and can't figure out how not hate each other on the field, the Poles don't let anyone score (their opponents, or themselves), and Croatia were exposed as a one-man band who played 30 yards deeper than he should have.
So it's not like the rest of the teams out there should've been that much better than the English.
A great comment on the radio this morning:
If Conte were coaching the English and Hodgson had Italy, which team is still playing right now?
The English team hasn't developed the next generation, but it still should be good enough to compete in this fractured tournament.
They didn't have a plan, and that's down to the coach.
They didn't have the talent, and that's the fault of the clubs.
They didn't have the heart, and that's their own fault.
Quote from: bayonetbrant on June 28, 2016, 04:04:36 PM
The Spanish are experienced, but they're just damned tired. They couldn't have looked less interested in the Italy game, and when you figure they've all played an extra season over the past 3 years with all their extra national team commitments, they probably just deserve a break.
The French have an identity crisis, the Germans don't know where the goals are going to come from, the Welsh are trying to capture lightning-in-a-bottle, the Portuguese always flame out in the final 4, the Belgians don't like each other and can't figure out how not hate each other on the field, the Poles don't let anyone score (their opponents, or themselves), and Croatia were exposed as a one-man band who played 30 yards deeper than he should have.
:2funny:
You know, you should write a book on the subject
you're talking about my primary sport. You should hear my son and how well he knows all the players.
If points were scored occasionally soccer could be an interesting sport.
But if pigs had wings they could fly.
people tend to play too conservatively in tournaments, but in league play, it's not uncommon to have a 4-2 scoreline.
Or when Germany beats Brazil 7-1 in the World Cup semi finals
not every attack has to be a goal to watch an entertaining game, its about the attempts, the fight and espeically the spirit.
Germany vs Slovakia was an very entertaining match and only had 3 goals
the England vs Island match was also very good to watch and enjoy ...the fighting spirit of those Vikings, just gorgeous!
(when i saw Birkir Bjarnason storming over the field in full speed to intercept an English man i almost saw for a blink the round buckle shield in one hand an the viking sword swinging in the other and he looked like a young Nordic god Thor impersonating storming into Ragnarok battle)
and compared to American Football there are no commercial breaks, long minutes of boredom, a short burst of brawling action (the actual play) follewd by long minutes of boredom... 4 x 15 min clock-time stretched over 3-4 hour 'watch time'
a good soccer match is for the spectator 45 min of constantly 'in the flow' and tentions were you don't even dare to leave the room for a second too go to the fridge for a new cold one or taking a leak. sometimes the match is so intense that the TV station don't even be able to show the short replay of a goal or a corner with form more then one camera angle because the next dangerous attack is already rolling in and the other camera replays had to wait minutes for an offsite to be strawn in.
Quote from: MikeGER on June 29, 2016, 02:22:57 AM
not every attack has to be a goal to watch an entertaining game, its about the attempts, the fight and espeically the spirit.
Germany vs Slovakia was an very entertaining match and only had 3 goals
the England vs Island match was also very good to watch and enjoy ...the fighting spirit of those Vikings, just gorgeous!
(when i saw Birkir Bjarnason storming over the field in full speed to intercept an English man i almost saw for a blink the round buckle shield in one hand an the viking sword swinging in the other and he looked like a young Nordic god Thor impersonating storming into Ragnarok battle)
and compared to American Football there are no commercial breaks, long minutes of boredom, a short burst of brawling action (the actual play) follewd by long minutes of boredom... 4 x 15 min clock-time stretched over 3-4 hour 'watch time'
a good soccer match is for the spectator 45 min of constantly 'in the flow' and tentions were you don't even dare to leave the room for a second too go to the fridge for a new cold one or taking a leak. sometimes the match is so intense that the TV station don't even be able to show the short replay of a goal or a corner with form more then one camera angle because the next dangerous attack is already rolling in and the other camera replays had to wait minutes for an offsite to be strawn in.
Blimey Mike you should be a rugby fan with that passion!
https://www.youtube.com/user/RBS6Nations
It would be great for Germany to field a team making the 6 Nations competition a 7 nations contest. I think with your admiration of the Viking spirit, you'd love it, especially the shield wall tactics of the scrums. Sometimes it's like watching the clash of armies.
I admit I am biased that I'd rather watch rugby than football, not to put football down though. I just feel there is more action in it, as more of a contact sport without the "cry baby" attitudes of todays footballers. Perhaps, I'm a cultured hooligan at heart? ;D
If there's a more boring sport to watch than soccer, I haven't found it yet. ::)
Quote from: Toonces on June 29, 2016, 06:49:46 AM
If there's a more boring sport to watch than soccer, I haven't found it yet. ::)
Cricket?
Snooker?
Darts?
Quote from: Toonces on June 29, 2016, 06:49:46 AM
If there's a more boring sport to watch than soccer, I haven't found it yet. ::)
surfing
Quote from: undercovergeek on June 29, 2016, 07:13:10 AM
Quote from: Toonces on June 29, 2016, 06:49:46 AM
If there's a more boring sport to watch than soccer, I haven't found it yet. ::)
surfing
...is like country fair electric bull riding contest just with men in wet suits and replacing the bull with the sea and the spectators at the beach need binos to see more then a few lengthy bobbing pixels who sooner or later tumble in a wave...always. Isn't it >:D
@all :2funny:
What about rugby then? 8)
Quote from: Toonces on June 29, 2016, 06:49:46 AM
If there's a more boring sport to watch than soccer, I haven't found it yet. ::)
Golf. Curling. Most of the Olympics.
Cycling?
For me it has to be the repetitive stuff: Tennis and cricket. The perfect cures for insomnia. ;)
Quote from: Boggit on July 01, 2016, 08:15:20 AM
For me it has to be the repetitive stuff: Tennis and cricket. The perfect cures for insomnia. ;)
Cricket offers a bit of curious fascination for those of us in North America because we have no goddamn idea what in the Hell is happening. ;D
And I have yet to see a cricket involved at all in any game I've watched. I thought maybe that's what they were throwing the ball at. But no, nothing. Very suspicious. >:(
Quote from: Arctic Blast on July 01, 2016, 05:00:25 PM
Cricket offers a bit of curious fascination for those of us in North America because we have no goddamn idea what in the Hell is happening. ;D
Baseball offers a bit of curious fascination for those of us in Not America because we have no goddamn idea what in the Hell is happening. ;) ;) ;)
Ok, nothing is more boring than soccer, but I think we can all agree that it would be 500% cooler if there were random shark attacks during the match,
Quote from: Toonces on July 02, 2016, 07:26:47 AM
Ok, nothing is more boring than soccer, but I think we can all agree that it would be 500% cooler if there were random shark attacks during the match,
just like surfing!
whoever just also saw the quarter final GER vs ITA and now tell me soccer is boring 8)
If toonces is willing to be eaten by a shark I'll concede
Be careful about what you wish for... :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtQzN5JM2qE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N10pD0rpzNw
So Germany vs France, Wales vs Portugal. Who will win? :coolsmiley:
I'm backing Germany. The strongest team IMO. O0
You mean the French are going to roll over to the Germans?!
Here's a homecoming... Remember that there's only 330k or so in the entire country, and probably 60k of them are at this one rally
[yt]https://youtu.be/WvGWH5w8BT4[/yt]
here's a better video that includes the up close view, but the wide shot at the 51s mark really gives you some perspective
http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/soccer/watch-iceland-team-and-fans-perform-spine-tingling-viking-clap-at-homecoming-743288.html