This took me by complete surprise.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/552520/Far_Cry_5/
It seems that if in the previous games you went to remote tropical islands to fight animals, crazed natives and mad bandits,
this time you'll be going to Montana to fight religious rednecks :P
The way Ubisoft are going - with Far Cry 3 and 4, The Division and Ghost Recon:Wildlands, I'd be a fool not to pick this up. Their games seem to be like crack for gamers.
I will give them credit for having the cojones to use a modern, real work location whose situation is sensitive to a number of people in this country.
Quote from: jamus34 on May 27, 2017, 05:52:00 AM
I will give them credit for having the cojones to use a modern, real work location whose situation is sensitive to a number of people in this country.
Unless they use overplayed stereotypes. Then it will just be offensive.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 27, 2017, 06:15:37 AM
Quote from: jamus34 on May 27, 2017, 05:52:00 AM
I will give them credit for having the cojones to use a modern, real work location whose situation is sensitive to a number of people in this country.
Unless they use overplayed stereotypes. Then it will just be offensive.
Nah, it's cool these days to target one specific group.
Quote from: bbmike on May 27, 2017, 07:29:54 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 27, 2017, 06:15:37 AM
Quote from: jamus34 on May 27, 2017, 05:52:00 AM
I will give them credit for having the cojones to use a modern, real work location whose situation is sensitive to a number of people in this country.
Unless they use overplayed stereotypes. Then it will just be offensive.
Nah, it's cool these days to target one specific group.
Of course. I meant offensive to white, Christian, conservative males. RPS is going to love this game! I heard they already have their WOT ready and they have rated it as the best game not made yet.
Quote from: JudgeDredd on May 27, 2017, 03:41:59 AM
The way Ubisoft are going - with Far Cry 3 and 4, The Division and Ghost Recon:Wildlands, I'd be a fool not to pick this up. Their games seem to be like crack for gamers.
The Division and Ghost Recon Wildlands made me sick of the Ubisoft open-world game model. It's just a big letdown, in the form of a beautifully crafted but soulless game.
- Beautiful, large, but lifeless open worlds
- A lack of depth to their content
- No endgame
1. What is the point of having a large, beautifully crafted open world environment when the game rarely takes advantage of it?They do this in almost every game - but I only started to notice it with The Division; there was just no point in exploring large chunks of the map. There's no mission there, no incentive or benefit of traveling there. This also frustrated me during Ghost Recon Wildlands, where we had a beautiful map that had such diversity in terrain, only to see lame computer-generated areas of civilians and sparse enemy.
2. Content: "Mile Wide, Inch Deep" Tons of content, but almost zero depth in any of it. GR:W had almost 30 boss missions (lots of content, right!?) where each mission was
almost exactly the same. Clear an area of bad guys, capture person X, kill person X, secure intelligence item Y. Sometimes you have to be stealthy, other times you get to have fun (and awful stealth mechanics, where the entire world knows your 10-digit grid location the second you fart)
It felt like a 4-year old child had scattered the same, boring missions across the map.
3. No Endgame This is a mixture of #1 & #2, but I feel like Ubisoft puts zero effort into getting the player to play their games twice. I would play GR:W for the rest of eternity if there were randomly generated missions in the end game (I'd probably even play the boring repetitive ones). I'd probably still be playing The Division is there was an endgame.
USE THE DAMN MAP! It's so large!
Edit:
#4 - AWFUL DLCEnough with the clown camouflage and nonsensical branches off the game. Why do we have a Civil War weapons pack for GR:W? Why does anyone care about a DLC where you can race monster trucks? Talk about missing the mark.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 27, 2017, 06:15:37 AM
Quote from: jamus34 on May 27, 2017, 05:52:00 AM
I will give them credit for having the cojones to use a modern, real work location whose situation is sensitive to a number of people in this country.
Unless they use overplayed stereotypes. Then it will just be offensive.
In their defense both FC3 & FC4 antagonists were pretty heavy caricatures. In all honesty the stereotyping they did with the protagonist in FC3 bothered me more (whiny, entitled, white boy) that anything else.
Of course I doubt they build in the depth of character and complexity that the situation they are trying to replicate involves. I'll leave at that to try to avoid derailing this into a personal opinion commentary on the state of US politics.
Quote from: Apocalypse 31 on May 27, 2017, 07:42:22 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on May 27, 2017, 03:41:59 AM
The way Ubisoft are going - with Far Cry 3 and 4, The Division and Ghost Recon:Wildlands, I'd be a fool not to pick this up. Their games seem to be like crack for gamers.
The Division and Ghost Recon Wildlands made me sick of the Ubisoft open-world game model. It's just a big letdown, in the form of a beautifully crafted but soulless game.
- Beautiful, large, but lifeless open worlds
- A lack of depth to their content
- No endgame
1. What is the point of having a large, beautifully crafted open world environment when the game rarely takes advantage of it?
They do this in almost every game - but I only started to notice it with The Division; there was just no point in exploring large chunks of the map. There's no mission there, no incentive or benefit of traveling there. This also frustrated me during Ghost Recon Wildlands, where we had a beautiful map that had such diversity in terrain, only to see lame computer-generated areas of civilians and sparse enemy.
2. Content: "Mile Wide, Inch Deep"
Tons of content, but almost zero depth in any of it. GR:W had almost 30 boss missions (lots of content, right!?) where each mission was almost exactly the same. Clear an area of bad guys, capture person X, kill person X, secure intelligence item Y. Sometimes you have to be stealthy, other times you get to have fun (and awful stealth mechanics, where the entire world knows your 10-digit grid location the second you fart)
It felt like a 4-year old child had scattered the same, boring missions across the map.
3. No Endgame
This is a mixture of #1 & #2, but I feel like Ubisoft puts zero effort into getting the player to play their games twice. I would play GR:W for the rest of eternity if there were randomly generated missions in the end game (I'd probably even play the boring repetitive ones). I'd probably still be playing The Division is there was an endgame.
USE THE DAMN MAP! It's so large!
Edit:
#4 - AWFUL DLC
Enough with the clown camouflage and nonsensical branches off the game. Why do we have a Civil War weapons pack for GR:W? Why does anyone care about a DLC where you can race monster trucks? Talk about missing the mark.
I agree they are samey. Very samey. And I've said as much here.
But for some reason, I keep getting pulled back in.
GR:W especially is my fire up and play game. Apart from the odd Alien:Isolation game, it's probably exclusively all I've played and there are now 290 hours in game. That's not all me. My daughter has been playing it a lot too but it's probably 50/50 in terms of time. She actually completed it and started again because I pointed out to her how much she was missing (kit wise) by not doing side missions.
I have never played a Far Cry title - Primal was the most interesting looking one to me until they announced this one. I am interested in this one because of the setting.
As a (basically) rural Christian, I understand the cult group as being anti-Christian borrowing Christian flavor for effect. Like the Space Marines in WH40K. ;) Christians and non-Christians can agree that they ought to be stopped.
Also, if the FC devs back through FC2 follow suit (the original team of FC1 having gone off to do the Crysis series among other things), the writing will be lots of grey on gray morality and no one will escape being tarred. Which is original sin, so that's fine. O0
So no outrage from me. I'm looking forward to the scenery and gameplay as usual, especially the key addition of flyable planes (although I have to think that "grasshoppers" would be more handy). Since we've got a long way to go until Q?2018, I suspect I'll even dust off my uncompleted Yeti campaign from FC4.
Quote from: Gusington on May 27, 2017, 10:38:36 AM
I have never played a Far Cry title - Primal was the most interesting looking one to me until they announced this one. I am interested in this one because of the setting.
Far Cry 3 was superb. Great story, great gameplay start to finish. 4 was a reskin
Disagree with lifeless comment on Wildlands. There's a lot of civilians, llamas and alpacas around.
Agree that that the enemy and the missions are always in the same points of interest (except for convoys). Wish they were random too. But there are several random patrols that may put you off once in a while. The DLC is cheesy.
I started enjoying Wildlands once I bumped up the difficulty. Normal difficulty is really quite boring and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Once you increase enemy presence and their spotting skills, things get really hot.
I absolutely loved Far Cry 3. The story was tight, and I was super brought in by the dumb, millennial protagonist losing his grasp on reality and descending into hardcore PTSD and violent madness as a consequence of his gamey killing spree. It's really a subject and consideration that most games tend to ignore. Character development is really something deeply missing in the video game narrative, and Far Cry 3 had it in spades.
I didn't connect with Far Cry 4's story at all. Just couldn't get interested in the odd politics of a small Himalayan police state. The strange Hindu supernatural subplot was also pretty well lost on me. The mechanics just felt like Far Cry 3 all over again, just less compelling.
That said, I'm on board with this one. The close to home setting, customization and vehicles look very solid. I think the story will connect more too I'm getting a day one vibe.
I really enjoyed the past couple of Far Cry titles, so I'm in on this one.
Well, I hadn't followed the link in the OPs post because I thought it was the link I had seen the other day which was just a "coming soon" video.
After seeing the video in the link, it has jumped to guaranteed day one purchase. Though it'll be 50 bolts, I'm sure it'll be money well spent - I love a game with a good story.
Quote from: JudgeDredd on May 28, 2017, 12:24:04 AM
Well, I hadn't followed the link in the OPs post because I thought it was the link I had seen the other day which was just a "coming soon" video.
After seeing the video in the link, it has jumped to guaranteed day one purchase. Though it'll be 50 bolts, I'm sure it'll be money well spent - I love a game with a good story.
If it's as solid as Far Cry 3's story it'll be worth it. Same reason I loved the System Shock and Bioshock games. Just a solid narrative.
I got into FC4's story as much as FC3, if not moreso because of the more sympathetic player character being slowly compromised in his morality about the no-good choices. I didn't find the political situation confusing at all (although worth noting that the supernatural vision quests were developed by an entirely different group. I got quickly annoyed with those, simply because they couldn't be anything other than a watered down glossed up experience. There should have been maybe three or four instead of seven of them.)
Alpaca's? Hindu police states?? I've been missing out.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on May 28, 2017, 12:38:31 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on May 28, 2017, 12:24:04 AM
Well, I hadn't followed the link in the OPs post because I thought it was the link I had seen the other day which was just a "coming soon" video.
After seeing the video in the link, it has jumped to guaranteed day one purchase. Though it'll be 50 bolts, I'm sure it'll be money well spent - I love a game with a good story.
If it's as solid as Far Cry 3's story it'll be worth it. Same reason I loved the System Shock and Bioshock games. Just a solid narrative.
Bioshock games had a solid narrative? :P
Quote from: Gusington on May 28, 2017, 02:34:10 PM
Alpaca's? Hindu police states?? I've been missing out.
Even Fry Cry Zero and Three (I skipped 2 and 4) had their moments. You should at least visit 3 and consider seriously playing 4 or 5, I think.
5 is now firmly in my sites. I didn't know there were so many spinoff games.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_Cry
Quote from: MengJiao on May 28, 2017, 02:54:12 PM
Quote from: Gusington on May 28, 2017, 02:34:10 PM
Alpaca's? Hindu police states?? I've been missing out.
Even Fry Cry Zero and Three (I skipped 2 and 4) had their moments. You should at least visit 3 and consider seriously playing 4 or 5, I think.
What's Far Cry Zero? do you mean the first game?
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 27, 2017, 07:40:03 AM
Of course. I meant offensive to white, Christian, conservative males. RPS is going to love this game! I heard they already have their WOT ready and they have rated it as the best game not made yet.
....no wonder it was announced on starting day of Ramadan :o
Quote from: Tpek on May 28, 2017, 03:27:07 PM
What's Far Cry Zero? do you mean the first game?
I think he meant FC Primal.
Quote from: Gusington on May 28, 2017, 02:34:10 PM
Alpaca's? Hindu police states?? I've been missing out.
And they're not even the best part!
The best part, as my nieces and Bro can testify, is flying the little grasshopper helicopters scattered around the map (held together with colorful duct tape), and then bombing enemies on the ground with a hand-held grenade launcher.
...that, or maybe the extended alternate campaign where you recover a base in the Himalayas and build up its defenses again while trying to keep from being murdered by yetis.
Quote from: Tpek on May 28, 2017, 03:27:07 PM
Quote from: MengJiao on May 28, 2017, 02:54:12 PM
Quote from: Gusington on May 28, 2017, 02:34:10 PM
Alpaca's? Hindu police states?? I've been missing out.
Even Fry Cry Zero and Three (I skipped 2 and 4) had their moments. You should at least visit 3 and consider seriously playing 4 or 5, I think.
What's Far Cry Zero? do you mean the first game?
I meant the first game. It had no number.
Looks like a lot of fun to me. I can't wait til they get around to poking fun at me and my fellow Swedes and Norwegians up here in the great white north. I can't wait to hear all of the accents, ala "Fargo".
I just hope they dispense with the idiotic game mechanic where you get attacked by an eagle every two minutes. They'll probably just substitute a rabid weasel or something.
Quote from: Queeg on May 31, 2017, 08:59:56 AM
I just hope they dispense with the idiotic game mechanic where you get attacked by an eagle every two minutes. They'll probably just substitute a rabid weasel or something.
Which game was that? Far Cry Primal?
Sounds like the infamous Cliff Racers from Morrowind :P
Quote from: Tpek on May 31, 2017, 09:13:32 AM
Quote from: Queeg on May 31, 2017, 08:59:56 AM
I just hope they dispense with the idiotic game mechanic where you get attacked by an eagle every two minutes. They'll probably just substitute a rabid weasel or something.
Which game was that? Far Cry Primal?
Sounds like the infamous Cliff Racers from Morrowind :P
Far Cry 4. Everywhere you went, someone was being attacked by an eagle. Literally every few minutes. One of the dumbest, most annoying game mechanics ever.
Patches dialed that way down, in my playthrough -- still annoying, but not as prevalent.
You can expect the rabid weasel, though, if the game's history of badgers being unspeakable killing machines continues. The ones in FC4 could take down a wolfpack by themselves, and one of the side missions played into this spoof by saving a farm from being overrun by packs of badgers.
In Montana, those badgers might be WOLVERINES!! :hide: :timeout: :wow:
The last couple of posts made me laugh out loud. Well done.
WOLVERINES!
SNIKT!
Yes!
Wut?
What does he do?
Oh.
What he currently does is look like hobo Mel Gibson in his final(?) film.
Which is awesome.
Marvel Studios presents: FAR CRY: WOLVERINE.
Throw money my way Ubisoft & Marvel. We can make this happen. The fans cry out for it.
They cry faaaarrr....
Heh I'd buy that.
The best part of Far Cry 4 for me was when an eagle dropped a deer from the sky, right in front of me. Really the only memorable thing from the game.
Overall I thought the game got a little repetitive, and the story kind of went off the rails when you got to the gladiator arena thing. Never finished it.
Quote from: bboyer66 on June 01, 2017, 08:26:41 AM
The best part of Far Cry 4 for me was when an eagle dropped a deer from the sky, right in front of me. Really the only memorable thing from the game.
Overall I thought the game got a little repetitive, and the story kind of went off the rails when you got to the gladiator arena thing. Never finished it.
Never finished it either. Apart from the endless Steve Irwin animal fights, I hated the "kill the guy, but only left-handed with a shotgun" missions and the "run around frantically looking for the hidden cave opening before the one-minute timer expires" missions. It was open world but not really.
I'm in the minority of those who think Far Cry 2 was the best of the series.
You didn't have to play the goofy skill missions. Those were just for faster xp, and/or for slightly better loot. There were plenty of normal missions.
Meanwhile, moar betterer: FAR CRY: BLOOD DRAGON 2: THE WOLVERINE
Starring Michael Bienh. Biehn. (Been too long since I typed his name. ::) :-[ )
1986 Michael Biehn, not 2017 Michael Biehn.
The Wolverine, starring Mr. Bean.
Bought and pre-loaded. It's out in 2 days peeps.
Quote from: JudgeDredd on March 25, 2018, 02:54:29 PM
Bought and pre-loaded. It's out in 2 days peeps.
So tempted...my finger has been hovering over the purchase button for days.....
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on March 25, 2018, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on March 25, 2018, 02:54:29 PM
Bought and pre-loaded. It's out in 2 days peeps.
So tempted...my finger has been hovering over the purchase button for days.....
Might as well get it now and get some pre-purchase gear.
Quote from: Apocalypse 31 on March 25, 2018, 06:41:09 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on March 25, 2018, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on March 25, 2018, 02:54:29 PM
Bought and pre-loaded. It's out in 2 days peeps.
So tempted...my finger has been hovering over the purchase button for days.....
Might as well get it now and get some pre-purchase gear.
Yep, after I typed my message I wandered over to GMG and bit the bullet...resistance was futile, but at least I held out until now:)
Waiting to see if Green Man goes beyond 10% preorder discount. If not, you can spend 100 gold points on UPlay (the ones you get for in game achievements) to knock 20% off your next purchase.
Bought it from Steam and preloaded it tonight. I didn't plan on buying it right out of the gates but, I couldn't resist. I blame the migraine I've had all weekend, its reduced my ability to resist buying games. Yea that sounds right.
I'm sort of on the fence with his one. I know I'll get it, but it looks too over the top and Saints Row-ish to me, really. I look forward to initial impressions.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 26, 2018, 05:12:58 AM
I'm sort of on the fence with his one. I know I'll get it, but it looks too over the top and Saints Row-ish to me, really. I look forward to initial impressions.
^Sicario - great film O0
Quote from: JudgeDredd on March 26, 2018, 05:16:41 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 26, 2018, 05:12:58 AM
I'm sort of on the fence with his one. I know I'll get it, but it looks too over the top and Saints Row-ish to me, really. I look forward to initial impressions.
^Sicario - great film O0
Yes, it was.
Who ever thought that Finster could be a total badass
Alejandro is one of my favorite characters in recent film. The closest thing to the Grim Reaper incarnate.
Sicario 2 looks good too.
Have not seen it yet but I did just purchase Sicario digitally on Amazon.
Quote from: Gusington on March 26, 2018, 08:18:15 AM
Have not seen it yet but I did just purchase Sicario digitally on Amazon.
Watch it...immediately. Its a fantastic film.
It has now been moved to #1 on my to-watch list.
I'm sure I'll hold off on FC5 for a while until sales later this year -- I don't doubt I'll enjoy it, but I'm trying to reduce my gaming expenses.
On the other hand, there will evidently be a survival map called "Yeti Island".
I'm not blown away with the review...but then again, I expected another re-skin of a Far Cry game. I like a good story - so hopefully it's got that at least.
Quote from: JudgeDredd on March 26, 2018, 04:48:14 PM
I'm not blown away with the review...but then again, I expected another re-skin of a Far Cry game. I like a good story - so hopefully it's got that at least.
Yep, my expectation is only that it will be similar to past versions, didn't expect it to be earth shattering. But always get some good fun out of it, even if I don't finish.
Hurmph...
People in New Zealand and Australia got their games unlocked as soon as it was the 27th where they live, and yet I have to wait until it's 27th in the U.S.
(It's already the 27th here as well)
EDIT: Huh, what do you know, as soon as I posted the message they unlocked the game for me :P
^Ears everywhere.
Which is the best Far Cry of the whole series for someone (me) who has never played any of them?
Quote from: Tpek on March 26, 2018, 05:01:14 PM
Hurmph...
People in New Zealand and Australia got their games unlocked as soon as it was the 27th where they live, and yet I have to wait until it's 27th in the U.S.
(It's already the 27th here as well)
EDIT: Huh, what do you know, as soon as I posted the message they unlocked the game for me :P
Maybe I am misreading this, but are you in the US? If so, where in the US is it the 27th already?
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on March 26, 2018, 05:53:56 PM
Quote from: Tpek on March 26, 2018, 05:01:14 PM
Hurmph...
People in New Zealand and Australia got their games unlocked as soon as it was the 27th where they live, and yet I have to wait until it's 27th in the U.S.
(It's already the 27th here as well)
EDIT: Huh, what do you know, as soon as I posted the message they unlocked the game for me :P
Maybe I am misreading this, but are you in the US? If so, where in the US is it the 27th already?
Nope, I'm in Israel.
We just often get screwed by game companies over here.
Quote from: Gusington on March 26, 2018, 05:33:45 PM
^Ears everywhere.
Which is the best Far Cry of the whole series for someone (me) who has never played any of them?
The original is the best.
Two had some interesting mechanics but the core gameplay was broken because the checkpoints would instantly respawn/repair the moment you left them (in ruins) so you had to fight through them every single time you traveled the map.
I didn't like three very much at all. Too many concessions to the console style of play for my tastes. Everything you could interact with in the world would be highlighted and shaded so you always had total situational awareness. Made what should have been a game about exploring the map and finding new and interesting things a dull affair. Too many fetch quests (get twenty red dingleberries!) and too many silly quests that were there only so grant some sort of achievement (you found 50 dingleberries in 10 minutes! You're the dingleking! Tell your friends on Instagram!). The game showed off all it had to offer within the first hour or so and then it became a repetitive slog. Got to clear yet another section of the map. Drive there, fight a jeep of baddies on the way, shoot up the base, watch the glowing timer countdown. DING! Liberated! repeat 417 more times.
Never bothered with four.
I don't know about the original....it was good, but I remember being frustrated the AI seemed to have super human sense of where I was. Just recall being like on a mountain with full foliage where no way anybody should have seen me, but the AI would also find me and pick me off somehow, like finding a needle in haystack.
Versions 2-4, mostly the same type of games....open world where you just wonder around and blow things up and kill things. Some good mindless fun if you don't take it too seriously:)
I'm looking forward to it. Got it with Amazon credit so sadly no pre-load till I get the codes at Midnight. Going to rip into it tomorrow.
Heard a lot of good first impressions today though. They seem to have opened the world up, taken out the constant POI to POI aspect and eliminated the mini-map, and done away with tower climbs (aside from one tongue in cheek one).
If I have as much fun with it as I did with the others, I won't complain.
Quote from: Gusington on March 26, 2018, 05:33:45 PM
Which is the best Far Cry of the whole series for someone (me) who has never played any of them?
Non-spoilerish opinions inbound:
Never could get 1 to run for me on my old computers; now can't get it to run on modern computers because it's too old!
Never played 2.
3 had a pretty daring story with an unlikable entitled douchey protagonist (and his ditto friends skydiving on Daddy's credit card -- the halfway decent and responsible military guy notwithstanding, who ISN'T the main character but who helps out a bit as the MC's brother). Cussing out the wazoo, along with one or two first-person sex scenes (one optional). Two (or three depending on how you count them) colorful main villains; sub-bosses weren't so much. Story was almost high literature though. (Also somewhat pretentious like high literature. Also lots of drug use where being "high" was a main plot point.)
3:Blood Dragon, I think a standalone based on FC3 engine, probably has the best regard by all players: a focused game with trippy aesthetic, doesn't overstay its welcome, unbeatable laser-shooting T-Rexes, a loving homage/pastiche of 80s R-rated combat/sci-fi. Michael Biehn voices the main character with aplomb. Teased a sequel which everyone hopes they'll make someday, but part of the homage charm would be if they never do. ;) (Something sort of like a sequel but not was released a few years later as a motocross game. Not kidding.)
4 is my personal favorite. Main character is more boring but more accessible, too, and not actively unlikeable. Main villain is as colorful interesting as before; sub-bosses more interesting this time. I prefer the not-Bhutan setting much more than the two South Pacific islands of 3 (and the night-glow nightmare of 3:BD). Cussing, violence, and drug use are still up to par. Story isn't quite up to high artistic levels as 3. No direct sex scenes that I recall but still boobish in a few places (well, it's a hard-R game). Comes with two imaginative DLC missions (of alternate continuity to the main plot). One is a highly condensed version of the action of the main plot, on a bit smaller(?) map, where you've got 30 minutes to secure and fortify an airport from which you'll evacuate the area at the end. For every person you kill, you earn a bit more time to get things done, so the mission can go for a while, but you're under constant tactical pressure to get things done. The other is an epic base-restoration-defense mission featuring yetis (which don't show up in the main game aside from rescuing the main character perhaps at one point) -- more involved in that mission, too, not just that.
For gameplay polish and consistent plot progression and overall maximum content, I recommend FC4 right now. (Obviously no opinion on 5 yet, which naturally doesn't have all its content out yet either.) Then maybe go back to 3, then 2.
Damn. It's now available, fired it up to set the settings and now I have to go to work.
It looks beautiful.
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on March 26, 2018, 07:20:18 PM
I don't know about the original....it was good, but I remember being frustrated the AI seemed to have super human sense of where I was. Just recall being like on a mountain with full foliage where no way anybody should have seen me, but the AI would also find me and pick me off somehow, like finding a needle in haystack.
Versions 2-4, mostly the same type of games....open world where you just wonder around and blow things up and kill things. Some good mindless fun if you don't take it too seriously:)
Funny you mention the super human senses...the original was lauded for having great AI.
Quote from: Gusington on March 26, 2018, 05:33:45 PM
^Ears everywhere.
Which is the best Far Cry of the whole series for someone (me) who has never played any of them?
The original was OK. Never finished it.
2 was set in Africa and was ground breaking - taking the gameplay away from the original...never finished it. It was pretty cool driving around watching Springboks running beside your jeep.
3 was imo the best. It was set on "an island". I generally agree with what was said about 3 here (bugs, arsey protagonist, profanity), but I loved it mainly because of the story and Vaz was one of the best bad guy's I've ever come across in a game world. I finished this one.
3.x - Red Dragon - as mad as I am for the 80's I never picked this up.
4 was set in the Himalayas and whilst beautiful, I wasn't too keen on it. Never finished it.
From 2, they've been pretty much reskins and not a whole lot of change in mechanics...though the stories have been interesting - and for me, in the FPS world, story is king. Through in some solid gameplay (whether I've seen it before or not) and a stunning, believable world and I'm happy as a sandboy.
Yikes, had fun with the start. Grabbed me tighter than Farcry 4. Going to give it a go after work tomorrow. Wondering how many of my students will pester me about if I played it during the day.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on March 27, 2018, 01:49:50 AM
Yikes, had fun with the start. Grabbed me tighter than Farcry 4. Going to give it a go after work tomorrow. Wondering how many of my students will pester me about if I played it during the day.
What do you work as?
You guys are all omitting Far Cry Primal from your reviews of the series...gee, wonder why? :crazy2:
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 27, 2018, 05:13:29 AM
You guys are all omitting Far Cry Primal from your reviews of the series...gee, wonder why? :crazy2:
It was a bold move but I skipped it. A guy at work played it and loved it. The subject matter didn't appeal to me at all though
Thanks fellers. I have to admit being curious about Far Cry Primal - looks interesting.
If you have red dingleberries see a doctor.
Quote from: JudgeDredd on March 27, 2018, 05:33:07 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 27, 2018, 05:13:29 AM
You guys are all omitting Far Cry Primal from your reviews of the series...gee, wonder why? :crazy2:
It was a bold move but I skipped it. A guy at work played it and loved it. The subject matter didn't appeal to me at all though
Same here. Just doesn't interest me and I played the first three. The fourth one is on my list once the gold version hits $19.99. After that I will jump to #5.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 27, 2018, 05:13:29 AM
You guys are all omitting Far Cry Primal from your reviews of the series...gee, wonder why? :crazy2:
Me caveman, you Jarhead!
Ooga-Booga!
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 27, 2018, 05:13:29 AM
You guys are all omitting Far Cry Primal from your reviews of the series...gee, wonder why? :crazy2:
Forgot it existed, and I don't really think of it as being FC. Never played it anyway (despite being a solid proponent for its release); just too many other things to do. I may get it on sale eventually.
Quote from: Tpek on March 27, 2018, 04:45:07 AM
What do you work as?
History teacher. Previously AP High School, currently (and hopefully not for long) middle. Kids all know I'm a gamer and to them that's kind of weird and cool at the same time. They pester me about every game that comes out. I don't discuss games with this kind of content with them though, so yeah, I've had to deflect questions.
Its getting very positive reviews on steam...I'm a little surprised. AAA titles often get reviewed harshly by the peanut gallery.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 27, 2018, 04:28:11 PM
Its getting very positive reviews on steam...I'm a little surprised. AAA titles often get reviewed harshly by the peanut gallery.
Metacritic too, which is a real shocker.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 27, 2018, 04:28:11 PM
Its getting very positive reviews on steam...I'm a little surprised. AAA titles often get reviewed harshly by the peanut gallery.
i sense a purchase coming:)
hope to play some tonight....
Well, so much for playing tonight....my install was messed up, now I have to redownload...gosh darn it!
Watch the salty language!
Quote from: SirAndrewD on March 27, 2018, 04:42:33 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 27, 2018, 04:28:11 PM
Its getting very positive reviews on steam...I'm a little surprised. AAA titles often get reviewed harshly by the peanut gallery.
Metacritic too, which is a real shocker.
Maybe it's got that Duck Dynasty appeal.
I have a sneaking suspicion, this is how the rest of the world sees Americans. Heavily armed religious kooks.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 27, 2018, 09:36:19 PM
I have a sneaking suspicion, this is how the rest of the world sees Americans. Heavily armed religious kooks.
Haha not really. Missing one little detail, the characters in the game aren't obese.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 27, 2018, 09:36:19 PM
I have a sneaking suspicion, this is how the rest of the world sees Americans. Heavily armed religious kooks.
I'll say the game's approach to this is a lot more complex.
There's a strong pro-gun and pro-non extremist religious drive to the story.
Less about Americans=bad. More extremisim=bad and Americans are too complacent in the idea that rule of law will help them in a bad situation. Sort of pro-prepper in a way.
I'm a couple hours in. Thus far, it's fun. You can have a buddy come along on missions this time, and it looks like there are extra spots which are unlockable.
Also, the travel portion portion can be goddamn NASTY in this game. There is a stream of baddies all over the roads, and this time around they're dangerous.
It's sort of Far Cry 4 (which I loved) meets Just Cause or Red Faction Guerrilla (little side ops and chances to increase resistance levels by blowing a lot of shit up all over the map) meets a taste of Ghost Recon or The Division (your buddies, who all improve and upgrade as they gain experience).
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 27, 2018, 09:36:19 PM
I have a sneaking suspicion, this is how the rest of the world sees Americans. Heavily armed religious kooks.
If they do - and there will be some - then that's their issue. Personally, I'm more with SirAndrewD's assessment.
If you had ever played any of the games Arctic Blast mentioned and fired this up you'd never be under any illusion you were playing an Ubisoft game.
I'm 3 hours in and this has Ghost Recon Wildlands stamped all over it. It'[s even got the faction bosses around the map. Not necessarily a bad thing with 565 hours in that game.
As Arctic Blast said, travelling is dangerous. Lots and LOTS of bad guys.
Sound issues. Sound is fantastic then occasionally it turns to a completely different method.
Apart from that - I had lots of fun.
This guy seems to be disappointed
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/03/far-cry-5-review-five-steps-back/
I haven't read the whole review (seems like there could be spoilers in it), but his opening paragraph sounds like he was disappointed there was no political statement
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However you expected to feel about the game's portrayal of gun culture, militias, and weaponized evangelism going in, though, you'll probably come away let down by the game's lack of follow-through on that promise
Personally, if indeed there
is no real message in the game, then I'm happy with that. It's a game and I don't need people either side of the political spectrum grabbing hold of any hidden messages so future games become even more dumbed down.
JD, in addition, he said there's no flow in story and character development. Just pick missions that are samey. But that's how Ghost Recon Wildlands was and you (and I) seem to find it fun.
Are you British by the way? I visited London last week.
Yeah I didn't read all of it in case there were any spoilers.
Yes I am. I'm actually Scottish and come from Glasgow but I've lived in England since 1983. I live about 50 miles north of London in a place called Colchester. Britain's Oldest Recorded Town and the capital of Roman Britain
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 27, 2018, 09:36:19 PM
I have a sneaking suspicion, this is how the rest of the world sees Americans. Heavily armed religious kooks.
na, don't worry
with the shitload of all kind of WW2 themed games around
i never got the sneaking suspicion, this is how the rest of the world sees Germans. Heavily armed (occasionally zombie) Nazi kooks ...but secretly admired for driving around in a super cool assortment of all kind of SdKfz and Tigers and secret weapons of the Luftwaffe, while in sharp looking uniforms designed by Hugo Boss ^-^
Quote from: JudgeDredd on March 28, 2018, 02:27:40 AM
Yeah I didn't read all of it in case there were any spoilers.
Yes I am. I'm actually Scottish and come from Glasgow but I've lived in England since 1983. I live about 50 miles north of London in a place called Colchester. Britain's Oldest Recorded Town and the capital of Roman Britain
That's cool. I also went out of town to visit Matrix / Slitherine in Epsom.
Quote from: jomni on March 28, 2018, 02:31:47 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on March 28, 2018, 02:27:40 AM
Yeah I didn't read all of it in case there were any spoilers.
Yes I am. I'm actually Scottish and come from Glasgow but I've lived in England since 1983. I live about 50 miles north of London in a place called Colchester. Britain's Oldest Recorded Town and the capital of Roman Britain
That's cool. I also went out of town to visit Matrix / Slitherine in Epsom.
Nice one O0 I heard they were based in the UK - I didn't know they were that close.
my reload finished overnight so hopefully later today i can finally get to play. looks fun and what i would expect from this line of games.
Does this game still need U-play if I buy from Steam?
Yes
What JD failed to mention above is when he moved to England in 1983 it was to become the bassist for The Clash. He's humble.
Quote from: JudgeDredd on March 28, 2018, 06:30:23 AM
Yes
Ugh! I haven't installed it yet after buying a new computer. :(
Quote from: Gusington on March 28, 2018, 07:44:04 AM
What JD failed to mention above is when he moved to England in 1983 it was to become the bassist for The Clash. He's humble.
oooh. If only I were to be so cool :buck2:
In our eyes you are. Keep up the myth - don't ruin it!!
How is the wildlife so far? In a lot of the videos it looks very over the top. It would be annoying if you're constantly attacked by lions and tigers and bears...
...and eagles and badgers... (which in this game should be more at home than in, for example, not-Bhutan).
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 28, 2018, 09:39:53 AM
How is the wildlife so far? In a lot of the videos it looks very over the top. It would be annoying if you're constantly attacked by lions and tigers and bears...
I had went a considerable distance and time in game without meeting any ferocious animals...but then I was on the tiny island for most of my playtime.
When I got to a major part, I saw a badger, but I was on my quad, then I was attacked by a cougar, a civilian was attacked by a cougar and my dog was attacked by another cougar - all in the same location...that struck me as OTT.
I was attacked by bears, but that's when I went hunting them for a mission.
I'm going to take a punt on my limited playtime and say it showed
signs of possibly being OTT. I'd say what was more annoying was the number of bad guys driving around.
I'm playing on normal difficulty.
Hm, yeah I don't recall the dangerous fauna being quite that over the top (except for eagles perhaps) in FC3 or 4; but I do recall similar problems in RED DEAD REDEMPTION, a game from different publishers with a different engine of course.
I recall one 'night' I was trotting along on my horse out in the desert, not galloping because I was feeling reflective and just wanted to scenery-gaze for a few minutes, and I eventually noticed this weird little animal which seemed to be rubber-banding behind my horse. I thought, "huh, that's odd, what's that? a fox? doesn't quite look like a fox--" when WHAM YOWL! Dead horse.
It was a cougar, the first one I had seen since I started the game hours and hours ago. I had forgotten they were even in the game.
After getting over my shock I shot that thing, then skinned it (and my horse, might as well). In the middle of this, WHAM YOWL! -- another cougar.
After disposing of that one (by knife this time, couldn't get the gun out quickly enough), I thought, "...wait, a pack of cougars? That doesn't seem right..." WHAM, YOWL! -- another cougar.
I quickly got spooked from stopping to skin any more cougars, and ran for what I hoped was the closest boundary of their spawn zone (according to the in-game map which roughly delineated such things). Ran out of ammo, and was down to using my knife, leaving a string of dead cougar bodies behind me. I couldn't even whistle a new horse up without having a new cougar spawn in and jump me (killing the horse along the way).
After that, I was verrrrrrrrrrry leery about riding at less than a full gallop anywhere on the map where cougars might be; and even leerier about stopping to skin any predators I shot from horseback -- also I was much leerier about traveling anywhere on foot. Wolves were the worst because, like coyotes, they spawned in packs, and unlike coyotes they were large enough to do serious damage quickly even from one bite.
I have to think there was either a patch that got tweaked too far, or else a piece of spawn code that had recently triggered for making the game harder as I improved and unlocked some abilities, because I hadn't had that problem until then.
A swarm of yowling, spawning cougars trying to jump me. {shudder} Nightmarish.
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.........
NO THAT WAS NOT MEANT AS A EUPHAMISM! ::)
I've decided to go ahead and do a Steam refund. While I don't hate the game, the limited amount of ammo you can carry out of the gate is killing it for me. The story isn't anything to write home about either. I think last years Ghost Recon was a better game.
Weirdly, the most aggressive animal in the game seem to be...turkeys. Seriously. They just come screaming towards you like some sort of feathered hellion. It's rather hilarious.
I've been attacked by a bear, but to be fair I was shooting him at the time. I've witnessed a few civvies get taken down by cougars. Hell, I sort of 'herded' one into a cult sanctuary as a distraction, which is something I enjoyed doing in the previous games as well.
Another discovery of a difficulty escalation from previous games : disarming one alarm in a base no long disarms all of them. You need to shut ALL OF THEM off this time around. And dudes with flamethrowers have an annoying habit of hanging out near them.
Also, I keep forgetting to spend my damn Perks points. ;D
I'm glad there are no animals in GR.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 28, 2018, 09:39:53 AM
How is the wildlife so far? In a lot of the videos it looks very over the top. It would be annoying if you're constantly attacked by lions and tigers and bears...
I think everything is over the top - and has gotten a lot worse since FC4.
You can't walk 100m without encountering enemy fighters or some wildlife attack.
It feels like it was a design feature to keep players busy - also, enemy respawns everywhere.
Quote from: Kushan on March 28, 2018, 09:42:07 PMI think last years Ghost Recon was a better game.
I have my own gripes with GR, but I agree here. I dont see myself replaying FC5
As silly as it sounds, that stupid little sling thing attached to the front end of every damn rifle is really irritating me. What is that stupid thing supposed to be? It looks like its part of a single-point sling attachment, but it shouldn't be attached to the front point. Annoying.
Well - I had (several times) written a reply in here - each time I deleted it.
I'm glad I did - because I'm actually having fun with it now.
Quote from: JudgeDredd on March 30, 2018, 10:06:59 AM
Well - I had (several times) written a reply in here - each time I deleted it.
I'm glad I did - because I'm actually having fun with it now.
I totally get that. It's a game that can frustrate greatly and then entertain enormously. I enjoy the hell out of it, but man, there's some occasional speed bumps and moments where it's more angering than appealing.
Better game than Far Cry 4. Not as good as Far Cry 3. Worth it, but it'll make you mad at times.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on April 01, 2018, 10:19:26 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on March 30, 2018, 10:06:59 AM
Well - I had (several times) written a reply in here - each time I deleted it.
I'm glad I did - because I'm actually having fun with it now.
I totally get that. It's a game that can frustrate greatly and then entertain enormously. I enjoy the hell out of it, but man, there's some occasional speed bumps and moments where it's more angering than appealing.
Better game than Far Cry 4. Not as good as Far Cry 3. Worth it, but it'll make you mad at times.
^In a nutshell, this :bd:
Far Cry and Ubisoft open world games have made me hate open world games.
I feel like most of the tasks are just extraneous filler, and are usually just NPCs trying to get you to do bullshit for them.
"Help me find my grandfather's lost Whiskey barrels"
No.
Far Cry has also shaped me to have ZERO sympathy for any characters. None. My mission is to capture or kill Joseph Seed, not be errand boy for dozens of poorly written NPCs.
"Hey, we just met, but do you think you can risk your life for some menial task for me?"
And who are all these well armed people that show up AFTER you liberate a sector? Where have your incompetent asses been? Feels like I'm working with the Iraq Army again.
The ending was also stupid.
^So you liked it...
Quote from: Apocalypse 31 on April 02, 2018, 06:21:33 PM
Far Cry and Ubisoft open world games have made me hate open world games.
I feel like most of the tasks are just extraneous filler, and are usually just NPCs trying to get you to do bullshit for them.
"Help me find my grandfather's lost Whiskey barrels"
No.
Far Cry has also shaped me to have ZERO sympathy for any characters. None. My mission is to capture or kill Joseph Seed, not be errand boy for dozens of poorly written NPCs.
"Hey, we just met, but do you think you can risk your life for some menial task for me?"
And who are all these well armed people that show up AFTER you liberate a sector? Where have your incompetent asses been? Feels like I'm working with the Iraq Army again.
The ending was also stupid.
Pretty much nearly every computer RPG ever made :P
"Hey there complete stranger who is extremely busy being the only one trying to save the world. Here's my entire life story, including all the dirty secrets.
Now please take a time off from the highly urgent task of preventing the total destruction of our world, to go around collecting flowers for me.
I just can't be arsed to move from this very spot. Thanks!"
Yeah, fetch and help quests are just part of the genre. That's not what bothers me about the game on the occasions when it does bother me.
This is one of the reasons I've really been grooving on Monster Hunter World lately...there are some fetch quests involved but typically they are stuff that you can do while completing a primary question.
Which usually involves finding a big honking monster and proceeding to curbstomp it.
I don't particularly mind the side quests. Side quests just thrown in for you to stay in a particular map location do - and that for me was the issue with Ghost Recon Wildlands. The side quests, iirc, just showed on the map and off you went. These are at least given to you by NPCs and all the stories from the NPCs are different. There's alot of variety in here which helps to keep "samey" tasks different.
The one thing I do think is there is the grind here. Not playing the game - but getting other equipment. There's alot of different weapons you can buy in stores - but there's not a whole lot of cash about.
I have rarely and I mean very rarely been above $10000 and therefore rarely been in a position to buy any other weapons. Any guns I've got I've picked up. I don't have alot...maybe 3 automatic guns and a shotgun. I've almost cleared the Happy Valley sector and I've only stumbled across 2 lots of 40 silver bars. To "accentuate" the lack of those bars in game, there's a very, very accessible shop to buy silver bars for real money. I can't help but think those silver bars are put in the game to sit there and tease people to "just spend real money" and build up their silver bar stash.
I've been crafting the things I can craft...so I don't think I've been wasting my money.
For example there's lots of ammo about - but there are so many bad guys kicking around that you can't risk going anywhere without topping up your ammo - so I was constantly spending money in the stores on ammo and med kits. Armour (vests) are very few and far between too - so you buy those.
Don't get me wrong. You do not need to have all these weapons to survive in the game...but you'll be unlikely to get any of those weapons.
One thing I can't seem to find is the herbs to make the stuff that lets you track. I've got lots of other herbs...but the red one (I think) just isn't around. I haven't stumbled across it.
Animals take an incredible amount of ammo to put down. Even those stupid turkeys and skunks. And I can now confirm there's enough of them to be bloody annoying.
Overall - this is a reskinned Ghost Recon Wildlands but better. It's got it's flaws, but like Ghost Recon Wildlands, it's dragging me back each time. Unless it opens up, it's considerably smaller than Ghost Recon Wildlands though. Ghost Recon Wildlands had about a dozen sectors and main bad guys to take out whereas this has 3 and the main guy.
JD has it mostly right. Can't argue where it's wrong, as usual, I'm far too drunk to do so. The lot of an American Teacher...booze....more booze.
But yeah, I still insist, good and fun game.
Wait... there are rabid turkeys?
Quote from: SirAndrewD on April 03, 2018, 01:40:09 AM
JD has it mostly right. Can't argue where it's wrong, as usual, I'm far too drunk to do so. The lot of an American Teacher...booze....more booze.
But yeah, I still insist, good and fun game.
Absolutely a fun game. Ghost Recon Wildlands was the same and Steam shows me logged as 500 hours (me and my daughter) - and imo this is much better flashed out.
One thing I really liked was there seemed to be a couple or 3 trigger points where you're dragged back into the story. IIRC that wasn't the case in Ghost Recon Wildlands. You just knew about an area and what you had to do and got on with it. Here there's a couple of instances of being reminded what the story is about and that kept the story alive.
Overall - much more positive than negative.
Quote from: jomni on April 03, 2018, 02:00:48 AM
Wait... there are rabid turkeys?
Yes...though I've only seen a couple of instances of those so far.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on April 03, 2018, 01:40:09 AM
JD has it mostly right. Can't argue where it's wrong, as usual, I'm far too drunk to do so. The lot of an American Teacher...booze....more booze.
But yeah, I still insist, good and fun game.
I know...all that vacation and time off really wears on a man. I can't imagine how hard it must be.
Quote from: jomni on April 03, 2018, 02:00:48 AM
Wait... there are rabid turkeys?
Yeah. They charge right at you while you're emptying an assault rifle's magazine right into them at close range.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 03, 2018, 05:03:51 AM
I know...all that vacation and time off really wears on a man. I can't imagine how hard it must be.
And those work days ending at 2:45. :))
Quote from: SirAndrewD on April 03, 2018, 03:59:03 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 03, 2018, 05:03:51 AM
I know...all that vacation and time off really wears on a man. I can't imagine how hard it must be.
And those work days ending at 2:45. :))
That's right! The struggle is real.
:2funny:
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 03, 2018, 04:25:13 PM
That's right! The struggle is real.
:2funny:
I'll tell you though. I'd probably be a lot happier and drink a lot less if I didn't actually care about educating and imparting knowledge. My students certainly don't want to be burdened with learning. I really just need to relax and follow the example of my colleagues and consider myself a afternoon babysitter.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on April 03, 2018, 04:29:07 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 03, 2018, 04:25:13 PM
That's right! The struggle is real.
:2funny:
I'll tell you though. I'd probably be a lot happier and drink a lot less if I didn't actually care about educating and imparting knowledge. My students certainly don't want to be burdened with learning. I really just need to relax and follow the example of my colleagues and consider myself a afternoon babysitter.
Please don't do that...its a noble and important profession. We are all counting on you for our future.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 03, 2018, 06:55:44 PM
Please don't do that...its a noble and important profession. We are all counting on you for our future.
Oh I don't have it in me to do that. I care too much about the cause of history and education.
So I'll fill up with more cheap whiskey, not cheap video games, TV shows with the missus and having by balls busted on here.
Anyway, back to killing cultists with weaponized bears.
^Better.
Well...shit.
So, I get to the final story mission of Act 1. I`m supposed to take off in a plane and dogfight one of the Seed clan. So I do, don`t fare well, and die. Okay, next attempt.
I inexplicably respawn a few miles away from the airfield. Weird. Drive over there. Hop in a different plane. This time we`ll use a controller, since mouse and keyboard with a plane is just a janky mess. And he`s in my sights, he`s calling for support...and I explode and die. I have no idea what in the Hell happened. I was on his tail, and I blew up. Huh.
Back to the airfield, which I respawned just a few hundred feet away from this time. And THERE ARE NO PLANES. None. Zero. Anywhere. I drove to other airfields. I looked for an armed helicopter. There is NOTHING. He`s just flying around waiting for me and occasionally firing insults. Reload, same deal. Shut it down, load it up, same broken deal. There is no way to restart the mission from the start. I`m just completely boned, stuck in a perpetual loop of whatever purgatory this has become.
So yeah. Uninstall. F*ck Ubisoft.
I know you've uninstalled, but if you ever do want to try again, you can spawn planes at the airfield from the yellow boxes you find in the hangars, same as spawning owned helicopters, boats and cars.
Also, on that mission I just took Nick as my companion and let him slice Seed out of the sky. The Vulcan in his seaplane is murder on NPC's.
I did dislike a dogfighting mission though. The keyboard controls are rough.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on April 08, 2018, 12:04:22 AM
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I did dislike a dogfighting mission though. The keyboard controls are rough.
So did I and yes they most certainly do. I changed the pitch up and down which helped greatly though. I think Pitch Up was assigned to W which never EVER goes well in my head...W is pitch down in my head.
Also, another tip is if it's going rough, drop the difficulty. You can change the difficulty on the hop (I can't recall exactly when, when loading a game I think) and I find the game too easy, but occasionally I found it extremely difficult and dropped the difficulty to get through, then upped it next time. I'm not sure what dropping or increasing difficulty done...made me less of a bullet magnet I think - but there are parts in the game where this helped me not rage quit.
Quote from: JudgeDredd on April 08, 2018, 01:01:36 AM
I think Pitch Up was assigned to W which never EVER goes well in my head...W is pitch down in my head.
It's because you flightsim : pushing the W is pushing away = stick forward = pitch down. To someone hasn't "flown", W is higher on the keyboard, so pushing it means "go up".
I think I get a free copy with my new computer. I don't play shooters. If I get a free copy, I'll be looking to trade FC5 for something.
So, I didn't end up uninstalling. Instead, I started over again. Realized that I had really done a piss poor job of focusing my Perks and stuff like that. This time, I'm off to a much better start. Already unlocked a third weapons slot, more ammo for rifles (my weapon class of choice), more health, better takedowns, and all sorts of other fun things. I hadn't even realized that those Prepper stashes each contain 2-3 magazines that are each a perk point...those things are a gold mine! I also took on whatever that side mission is where you collect the unit lighters. The reward sucks, BUT you uncover a lot of the fog from the map in all three zones, you triple your money over the cost of the map that shows where they all are (you can buy it at the gun merchant in Fall's End), and you can reach your first level of resistance in at least one of the other two zones. Now you get access to better weapons without jumping your alert status through the roof in one area.
Also, one of my possible mission sidekicks IS A GODDAMN BEAR. O0
Cheeseburger is amazing. Watching him rip your opponents apart is great.
Key to the game is taking your time, doing the stashes, not hitting all the Resistance Points so fast that you trigger stuff before you're stocked up. Honestly, a strong knock against the game is the weapons lineup. Some of the very first weapons you get will hold you through the entire game. I tend to use the M-14 Socom, M-249 and SA-50 without fail, but honestly, the starter AR is absolutely viable in its sniper configuration to carry you through the game.
It's frustrating at times, but man it can be fun too. Just learn and use your companions. They can get you over a lot of the humps.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on April 14, 2018, 01:34:56 AM
Just learn and use your companions. They can get you over a lot of the humps.
I find the companion functions work really well...and are pretty simple to use... Good on them for getting this part right...
I am about 2/3 through the game...and overall, while I like it...some fatigue is setting in...
Cultist and animal attacks have gone OTT...
I need constant air cover because I get spotted and attacked by aircraft every 5 min... When I am on the road, I quickly creat a "chain wreck" as cultist vehicles start messing with me..and as I finish off one, another one appears...before long, there are 10 buring vehicles in the road..
Then there are the stupid "boss" missions. Faith's are just insane...not in a good way...
I like the game...and frankly have gotten a ton of gameplay out of it...so I think it was a good purchase...but I doubt I will finish it..
^Ghost Recon Wildlands. Had the same issue.
I've already noticed the number of nutters running around to spoil my day - and I've only cleared Joseph? John? Bottom left of the map.
Still enjoying it currently, but like GR:W and The Division before it, Ubisofts games, whilst addictive for a time, get very samey. I think someone else mentioned it on this thread - their "open world" whilst open and huge can become very bland and boring.
I don't play shooters.
My Falcon comes with a code for a free copy of Far Cry 5.
Is there a stupidly easy mode in this game? I mean really, really stupidly easy? If not, I need to trade this for something else.
There are only 3 settings but the lowest difficulty setting in this is very easy
Quote from: airboy on April 20, 2018, 09:38:35 AM
I don't play shooters.
My Falcon comes with a code for a free copy of Far Cry 5.
Is there a stupidly easy mode in this game? I mean really, really stupidly easy? If not, I need to trade this for something else.
I'd happily trade something of equal value if you're not keen on killing cultists!
Ditto! -- I just don't think I have anything of equal value. :-\
...I have the full anime series of Rah-Xephon on DVD? How about all the (extant) Doctor Who DVDs up through the end of the 3rd Doctor?
... .....this is going to get pitiful quickly...
You know, I can be a cynical person. I'm sometimes accused of being a bit nihilistic on my outlook. But woah....I'm sunshine and daisies compared to what I just experienced.
I'll say this without spoiling the good ending, which I just got. But, don't read further if you don't want my gut reaction spoiled. Not going to say what happened, just how it made me feel.
[spoiler]
The "Good" ending is so nihilistic, dark, upsetting and such a kick in the groin that it really just makes me strongly dislike everything I put in the game. It's an interesting choice for sure, but man, it goes above and beyond.
I'm glad I played this on a Friday, I'm drinking a lot.
Uninstalling too. I can't ever see myself playing this again, not even for entertainment value of random action. I really just feel sort of oily and bad for even participating.[/spoiler]
So yeah, there's Far Cry 5. Out of the spoiler tag, if you're thinking of jumping in please note that this game will not make you want to ever play it again when the credits roll.
Quote from: JasonPratt on April 20, 2018, 10:06:56 PM
Ditto! -- I just don't think I have anything of equal value. :-\
...I have the full anime series of Rah-Xephon on DVD? How about all the (extant) Doctor Who DVDs up through the end of the 3rd Doctor?
... .....this is going to get pitiful quickly...
My wife is a big Dr. Dingbat fan and the DVDs through the end of Doc 3 would probably appeal to her.
I guess I should clarify what I would like for Far Cry 5.
FC5 has no value to me. None.
I would accept board games, RPGs I've not played, Strategy Games I've not played, War Games I've not played.
Just PM me what you want. I'm not looking for an equal retail dollar trade - just something that I would actually enjoy.
I probably cannot take books because I'm so picky due to my allergy issues.
I have pretty much given up on the game at about 3/5 of the way through. The breaking issue for me are the inane boss missions...
I am in the northern county...and have been suddenly captured three times now. Each time I am put through this dream like shooter sequence where I am timed...basically I have to run through a maze, shooting anything that moves. If I don't make the time...the boss tells me something like, 'not good enough...try again'. Each time, it gets harder, but it is the same fricken maze.... of course, the game does not allow progress to be saved here. I usually have to go through it about five times before I can get out of the sequence.
The breaker is...for the third "capture"...I was flying a helicopter...not a cultist in sight...the screen faded and suddenly I found myself in the maze again. The repetitive and unimaginative "captures" have just become too much... Putting the player through a mandatory sequence over and over again is just lazy on the part of the designers...
For me...no longer "fun"...becoming "work"...I'm out...
Don't get me wrong...I still like the game...it was a great ride to get this far...and I feel like I got my money's worth...but I just can't finish it.
I agree. The forced captures are the worst design decision they made with the game. In a game where freedom is a big selling point, removing said freedom should never be on the table when you're putting together a game.
That said, after playing through it all, I'd hesitate to call Jacob's part lazy. I thought it was at first as well, but then I realized what I was happening and where I kept running through on the "Only You" Missions. Unfortunately there wasn't anything I could do to stop where I knew it was inevitably going. I just had to wait for the last one that I knew would inevitably turn out to be "real".
But no, while it had a good story reason, it wasn't really fun. Faith's region is a little more forgiving on this, you can choose when to interact with her, but only to a point. Push the liberation meter far enough and she'll come get you as well. Her sequences are just straight story though, only the last one involves action.
But, it's pointless anyway. If you're really putting it down, just go to youtube and watch the "Good/Resist" ending (Make sure you pick resist, most youtube videos incorrectly list the bad ending as the good one). You won't pick it back up again.
I get the impression the game is really a Montana prepper sandbox fighter, developed that way first for fun -- including multiplayer co-op fun -- and then the story was wedged into it (possibly in some rush). Some of the boggling design decisions only make 'sense' (for want of a better word) from that perspective. Oh, and the co-op ran short of time, too, so the co-op coding is VERY LITERALLY nothing more or other than piggy-backing on the AI helper coding. So your co-op partner takes the place of one of the two AI helper slots (with all the lack of story this naturally entails), and essentially becomes a more autonomous bot with all the limitations of the bots.
This may be a case where the special DLC alternate-continuity missions will be more satisfying overall than the main storyline.
I don't think the story was tacked on. It actually seems very calculated. It's dark, it's nihilistic, it's in some ways hypocritical, but it's calculated.
It was the inevitable creep that started with Far Cry 2. The games always wanted you to question right and wrong, and increasingly became devoted to the villains. Far Cry 3 was the best of that, with Brody not at all being portrayed as being good for his killing spree, and his violent actions aren't excused and take a toll.
But Far Cry 5 takes to a level that's past the others. It's so cynical and bleak that it's hard to accept at the end. But it is NOT random. It's very calculated. They do seed the end throughout the game, they do hint at it constantly. Just listen to the radio news reports. It's hard to actually hear them, but take time and listen. It's all in there.
As to the rest of the gameplay, yeah, some if it may have been rushed. And yes, the DLC might actually be better as a story than the main game.
However, the end of the main game does taint any DLC. Heck, it taints Far Cry 3 and 4 too, because they all share the same world. It manages to drag everything since Far Cry 3 into a pretty deep depressing morass.
I'm only a third of the way through and I get the same impression as Andrew - that the story is really embedded into the game. You can jump in and out but the story is there for you to find everywhere.
As for being captured. Initially this pissed me off but then I got to thinking it was keeping you "in the story". Just reminding you, in case you had forgotten, that you've to get back on track.
I don't like them...especially being timed - but I digged that they were put there. IIRC it was the same in the other Far Cry games.
The farther away I get from playing this game, the better I feel.
I guess it's because I was a child of the 80's and grew up with Threads and The Day After.
This jam is the best thing to come out of FC5:
You guys see this? Interesting...
Yeah I read about that yesterday...if done well it would compel me to buy.