Anybody heard of this fantasy themed TBS game? Sounds pretty interesting...like a mix of Civilization, Shadow of Magic, Heroes of M&M and Master of Magic all wrapped up into one game.
Apparently, it has been out for awhile, but it has just been released in English on gog.com.
http://www.gog.com/gamecard/eador_genesis (http://www.gog.com/gamecard/eador_genesis)
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What's cool about it:
The critically acclaimed indie TBS inspired by classic strategy games, now available for the first time in English.
A balanced fusion of grand strategy, turn-based tactics, and RPG elements.
Over 170 buildings, 80 spells, and 70 units available that can be used in any combination.
Overview:
Eador is a universe made of countless shards of land drifting in the Great Nothing. Each of the shards is a little world unto itself, with geography and citizens of its own. The power over the shards is bitterly contested by Masters, the immortal beings mortals believe to be gods.
Take the role of a mighty Master and shape the destiny of Eador, on land and within the astral plane itself. Explore the land and rule provinces as you see fit, defend them, and keep the populace in line or they may rebel. Choose from thousands of items--swords, spells, weapons, armor, and more--to outfit the heroes you recruit so they may best meet any challenge. Keep your heroes healthy and they will grow stronger as they gain experience from battle. Forge alliances and engage in the delicate art of diplomacy as you negotiate trade agreements or wage war against a mutual foe. Eador with its many wonders and adventures awaits, will you answer the call?
I thought that looked very familiar....
http://www.snowbirdgames.com/eador/?lang=en
Seems this is a "newer" version with "upgraded" graphics that's not out yet..... I'm sure someone brought this version up here months ago.
Fer $5 bucks I'm tempted to buy the GOG version....
Lol... I was going to post this today..... I believe this was only released in Russian so I am not sure there are many who have played it previously. I did see the updated version on Steam Greenlight. It looks interesting and I was wanting to ready more user reviews on GOG.
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isnt that masters of the broken world, or the other way round?
the new updated one looks great, early 2013 i think
I'd spot someone the $5 purchase price if they would write a comprehensive English review of the game and publish it in the forum or the frontpage.
Quote from: undercovergeek on December 04, 2012, 10:11:30 AM
isnt that masters of the broken world, or the other way round?
the new updated one looks great, early 2013 i think
They sound a lot a like. I wasn't really paying attention until I read the GOG.com description.
So Masters of the Broken World is now a 2013 release? :P
RPS says after Christmas, i assume they meant 2012
Master of the Broken World goes into Beta on the 10th. I've applied, but I don't know if they are still accepting applications.
This is indeed the precursor, and from what I understand there is no English manual. It looks deep, so there might be a steep learning curve. I just bought it, and will report back when I have time.
It is actually $4.79 at GOG
Just an FYI -- There is no English documentation.
Yeah, I've been waiting for the updated version (or sequel?). If the original is any good, though, I'd love to know.
I bought it but I am gonna be busy for the next while.
Therefore it goes on the wait to play pile.
Quote from: Greybriar on December 04, 2012, 12:47:21 PM
Just an FYI -- There is no English documentation.
There does seem to be a tutorial, which I looked at very briefly, but I have no idea how extensive it is.
Yes, there is a tutorial at the start of the campaign. I haven't played it through yet though.
It looks very much like HOMM4.
Maybe a little too much. :o
I never played HOMM 4. For that matter, I've never played any of the HOMM. The premise sounds good though. I'll be looking forward to impressions.
Definitely looks interesting.
Oh, wait. I'm thinking of HoMM3, I think. Anyway, it looks a lot like it. If it has more depth to it, then that can only be a good thing because I felt the HoMM series needed something more.
Like fallen ent. I'm disappointed I'm capable of saving the day with me and my friends from the pub! Change the sprites to goblin army instead goblin and I might be more immerssed, but my 8 friends v yours doesn't sound like the world is in that much danger
I played a bit more of the campaign, and the strategic layer reminds me more of the TW series than HoMM. The only thing I dislike is the cheesy combat animations, but I'm sure that will be fixed for the new version.
Quote from: undercovergeek on December 05, 2012, 03:19:39 AM
Like fallen ent. I'm disappointed I'm capable of saving the day with me and my friends from the pub! Change the sprites to goblin army instead goblin and I might be more immerssed, but my 8 friends v yours doesn't sound like the world is in that much danger
I just don't understand you guys' hang-ups on troop scaling. It's been done in every medium, especially much-vaunted tabletop wargames. Does it really make a big purchasing difference if something has, for example, a 5-to-1 or 10-to-1 troop to model ratio in the graphics display? AFAIK, it's very rare for games portraying armies to display them on a 1 for 1 basis.
Or does each 'soldier' in this game have his own equipment and other individualities?
Interesting game indeed. Never heard about it before.
Will Master of the Broken World be an actual upgraded version of this or is it a new game with different gameplay mechanics?
Eador seems deep. I am looking forward to reading more impressions from you guys.
Can someone please tell me the difference between guards and garrison?
Quote from: Nefaro on December 05, 2012, 04:36:26 AM
Quote from: undercovergeek on December 05, 2012, 03:19:39 AM
Like fallen ent. I'm disappointed I'm capable of saving the day with me and my friends from the pub! Change the sprites to goblin army instead goblin and I might be more immerssed, but my 8 friends v yours doesn't sound like the world is in that much danger
I just don't understand you guys' hang-ups on troop scaling. It's been done in every medium, especially much-vaunted tabletop wargames. Does it really make a big purchasing difference if something has, for example, a 5-to-1 or 10-to-1 troop to model ratio in the graphics display? AFAIK, it's very rare for games portraying armies to display them on a 1 for 1 basis.
Or does each 'soldier' in this game have his own equipment and other individualities?
i dont think theres any abstraction though - it literally is my giant, my scout, my eagle, my wizard versus what ever motley crew the AI has pulled together - does that sound like we're battling to save the broken worlds of wherever, it just isnt GRAND enough!! :)
Quote from: undercovergeek on December 05, 2012, 06:13:01 AM
Quote from: Nefaro on December 05, 2012, 04:36:26 AM
Quote from: undercovergeek on December 05, 2012, 03:19:39 AM
Like fallen ent. I'm disappointed I'm capable of saving the day with me and my friends from the pub! Change the sprites to goblin army instead goblin and I might be more immerssed, but my 8 friends v yours doesn't sound like the world is in that much danger
I just don't understand you guys' hang-ups on troop scaling. It's been done in every medium, especially much-vaunted tabletop wargames. Does it really make a big purchasing difference if something has, for example, a 5-to-1 or 10-to-1 troop to model ratio in the graphics display? AFAIK, it's very rare for games portraying armies to display them on a 1 for 1 basis.
Or does each 'soldier' in this game have his own equipment and other individualities?
i dont think theres any abstraction though - it literally is my giant, my scout, my eagle, my wizard versus what ever motley crew the AI has pulled together - does that sound like we're battling to save the broken worlds of wherever, it just isnt GRAND enough!! :)
You do alright with Warlock, don't you?
ssshhhhhh, youre shooting holes in my arguement!!
Quote from: undercovergeek on December 05, 2012, 06:13:01 AM
i dont think theres any abstraction though - it literally is my giant, my scout, my eagle, my wizard versus what ever motley crew the AI has pulled together - does that sound like we're battling to save the broken worlds of wherever, it just isnt GRAND enough!! :)
LOL! Well.. not so much in that case, but it's not the first to have such a story, either. That's practically every RPG ever made! And some strategy ones to boot! ;D
So far I have had no problem running Eador: Genesis on my 64-bit Windows 7 PC. The game is much deeper than Heroes of Might and Magic III and Warlock: Master of the Arcane, although it has elements in common with both of those games. The easiest way into Eador: Genesis is to do the campaign, which includes a tutorial. Otherwise the learning curve will be a bit much.
My only problem with the small number of units is that apparently they can only be produced in your capitol, which means that with only one hero (at least in the early campaign), you've got to do a lot of shlepping back and forth to replace any lost in battle.
I forgot to ask: Does this game come with a sandbox mode? Or is it mission-based campaigns only?
Quote from: Martok on December 05, 2012, 10:16:10 AM
I forgot to ask: Does this game come with a sandbox mode? Or is it mission-based campaigns only?
It does have single-player sandbox and I think the maps are random. But you will still have to go through the campaign to learn the game.
It has MP (in contrast with what was said), including Hotseat mode.
So the HS mode lets you pretty much learn the game at your leisure :)
It's a steal at this price. Ordered.
Will not play it right away, but it really seems like a great fantasy TBS fix.
Just ran it to see wether it would start, but it does. However, is there a way to change the resolution of the game?
It seems fixed at 1024x768 and nowhere in the options I can find a resolution setting?
Oh my god this game looks lush! I shouldn't really be spending money but that's almost free. Gonna pick it up later. :D
Bought it but can't get it to run in fullscreen mode. There's a file called Eador.cfg in the game directory that lets you change some options. When I try fullscreen the game becomes ultra laggy and unresponsive. :-\
Quote from: Greybriar on December 05, 2012, 08:41:54 AM
So far I have had no problem running Eador: Genesis on my 64-bit Windows 7 PC. The game is much deeper than Heroes of Might and Magic III and Warlock: Master of the Arcane, although it has elements in common with both of those games. The easiest way into Eador: Genesis is to do the campaign, which includes a tutorial. Otherwise the learning curve will be a bit much.
Deeper than others? Big learning curve? Oh dayum! Sign me up! 8)
Looks like I'll be getting this one. Does it have higher resolution support or is it locked in the past?
I'm trying desperately to allot some time to this game. Since my most recent Minecraft ragequit (in which I lost all my diamond and obsidian) I doubt I'll be going back to it any time soon, so hopefully this week I'll get a few hours in.
What I can say so far is that it certainly looks like a very deep game. The interface isn't pretty but it works well enough, and the tutorial does seem decent. I haven't finished the tutorial yet but so far it has taken me through everything I've needed to do in detail. I have a really good feeling about this one. :)
Any other user feedback yet? 3 pages of posts expressing excitement, and I'd love some more thoughts from Huw or first impressions from somebody else!
I've been having lots of fun playing FTL, but my wife was a huge Heroes fan back in the day (before the franchise started to be a bunch of crappy, poorly developed money-makers coasting in on the name of the franchise). If it's got even comparable gameplay to H3 or H4, at that price, I'd be all over it.
My big beef was H4 was the crappy map development, the horrrid voice acting/cut scenes, and the idiotic Adventure Map AI. If this game is built such that you don't even notice these things (because they're not there, or because they're masked skillfully with other design decisions), I'm snapping this one up in a moment.
Eador: Masters of the Broken World has been on my radar for a few months now, and I'm very excited whenever that one might hit the market! If this is a cheap way to get a teaser, I'm all up for that. :)
Quote from: Nefaro on December 05, 2012, 09:41:22 PM
....Does it have higher resolution support or is it locked in the past?
According to this (http://www.gog.com/forum/eador_genesis/widescreen_support), "No way to play in widescreen resolution. Only fullscreen or window 1024*768"
I'm determined to have a good sesh on it tonight.
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on December 09, 2012, 12:26:00 PM
My big beef was H4 was the crappy map development, the horrrid voice acting/cut scenes, and the idiotic Adventure Map AI.
What do you mean by crappy map development? There are no cut scenes or voice acting; so far, in the campaign (still in tutorial phase though) there's the occasional text box/portrait of an advisor but that's it.
I've been playing it for a few hours now and it definately reminds me of the HoMM games of old (3 mainly) and Age of Wonders.
Its fun to play has pretty decent graphics and tells a great story. The translation seems to be done very well too, so far. No weird texts found.
The only thing that annoys me is that there are no tactical battle unit animations. A thing we have been spoiled with in the King's Bounty and HoMM 5 and 6 games, IMO. Those animations were fluid and spectacular, but in Eador the units just slide over the map and attack by quickly moving towards and away from the enemy unit. Hopefully this is better in the new game.
But we have to remember that the game is an indie game made by only one guy. If you keep that in mind it is an outstanding job!
It certainly fixes the Heroes itch if you might have it.
For :P sake. I'm getting a 100% reproducible CTD. This game doesn't like Win7-64 apparently. I've tried the various fixes suggested by the GOG community and the game's developer; my last resort now is to email GOG. >:(
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I am running it without problems on two different systems, both Win 7 64bit.
How can you reproduce the crash?
I move my mouse pointer to the lower-right region of the screen. Crashes every time. I've tried everything, and it happens in windowed as well as full screen. I actually managed to set aside the evening to play, too. I'm pissed off.
It was running fine when I played this morning! Oh well, I've emailed GOG. Fingers crossed.
Quote from: Huw the Poo on December 09, 2012, 01:32:38 PM
I'm determined to have a good sesh on it tonight.
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on December 09, 2012, 12:26:00 PM
My big beef was H4 was the crappy map development, the horrrid voice acting/cut scenes, and the idiotic Adventure Map AI.
In various different campaign maps, they had sections of the map that were utterly inaccessible. Some of the critical stuff was fixed (eventually) in bug fixes, but other maps just had populated dead zones with lots of interesting stuff, but no way to get there that I could find.
What do you mean by crappy map development? There are no cut scenes or voice acting; so far, in the campaign (still in tutorial phase though) there's the occasional text box/portrait of an advisor but that's it.
The technical issues being reported have stopped me from purchasing until something is patched or a work around is produced.
Quote from: Bison on December 09, 2012, 08:04:42 PM
The technical issues being reported have stopped me from purchasing until something is patched or a work around is produced.
I haven't had a single crash to desktop or any other problem running
Eador: Genesis on my 64-bit Windows 7 PC. If it makes any difference I have 12GB of DDR3 RAM and a GeForce GTX 470 video card.
Hmm...I guess for $5 what's the worst that can happen? There is are a number of threads at gog about freezing, super low FPS, mouse pointer issues, etc...
I've had no problems at all.
I asked the developer how different races affect play on the strategic level, and here is his reply:
QuoteEach race has an alignment, elves don't like to be oppressed by an evil master, orcs can't tolerate a goody-two-shoes ruler etc. Also, non-human provinces have some specific events exclusive for their races.
More importantly, when you enter a non-human province, you may (depending on your karma) offer this race an alliance, and having sealed the alliance by completing a quest, you get to construct their special buildings in your foreign quarter and recruit their special units.
But we still can't edit the resolution, right?
Well I cracked and played for an hour and a half. Now it's late and I'm going to be tired all day tomorrow. The resolution is not an issue for me. Frankly I think it scales just right for my laptop screen. I've encountered none of the issues I read about on the gog forums. It plays silky smooth. The lack of unit action in the battle really doesn't bother me. I'm really liking the simplicity and the look of the units. Not going to jump up and down and claim greatest game e'vah just yet, but it's fun and relaxing. I did get killed by some ogres which made me realize there is no save other than an auto save. This baby is hardcore. None of that I didn't get the result I wanted so let me load up a previous save stuff. Not sure what that means for the future, but I can tell you I've been much more cautious after my party wiped in my second non-tutorial battle.
SoM, no the resolution is fixed.
Bison, yeah pretty much my sentiments too. I would have liked battle animations, but it doesn't bother me that much either that they aren't there.
Hardcore it is. Even smallish thugs can make your army wither quickly if you aren't careful.
OK. I'm really, really enjoying this game. It's going to take FOREVER to beat it.
I will note that my laptop experiences neither lag or mouse issues; I cannot say the same for my desktop. Not sure why this is but it is a real issue that seems to vary system to system. I did run two instances of the game and it took care of most of the mouse and fps issues. Weird but there it is.
What are the specs for this game? As my dinosaur runs XP SP3, it would be a shame to get all excited about this and find out I can't run it.
Quote from: MetalDog on December 10, 2012, 07:20:31 PM
What are the specs for this game? As my dinosaur runs XP SP3, it would be a shame to get all excited about this and find out I can't run it.
I'm pretty sure the requirements are a working PC that uses an MS OS.
THAT'S ME! THAT'S ME!!!
Ok there is no manual. For the most part the game is self explanitory with a lot of tool tips and in game descriptions. However there is this http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Feador.com%2Fen%2Findex.html&act=url which seems to do a decent job of translating the text.
Spent a bit of time with this today. Lots of great ideas in there. It is a bit clunky, but it's good. Can't wait to see what they do with the upcoming sequel.
Well I conquered by first shard tonight.
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi830.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz227%2FBison36%2F1stShard.jpg&hash=bc03b7a2dfad7c38304a305d6e5f01316f754a13)
Here is a view of the astral map. I have 5 more shards to conquer before I win the game.
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi830.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz227%2FBison36%2FAstralMap.jpg&hash=faaf0b7cdc11b2fd81364adba1435202954b5f27)
In Eador if they ask you if you want to throw a rock in a calm pool of water, your answer should ALWAYS be no. If you foolishly say yes, this is what crawls out of the pool.
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi830.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz227%2FBison36%2Fdeath.jpg&hash=a8e43e7463bb8283a5f08044099bff038d3fefa3)
This is what a horde of fiends looks like advancing on your helpless level 2 ranger heroe's pathetic army.
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi830.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz227%2FBison36%2Ffiends.jpg&hash=302b334d0fe0277020acd2c28767efe3e6fc418e)
I'd lose this shard a short while later.
Wow, I'm very much looking forward to the updated version!
I am having fun with this game too.
It's pretty well thought out and fun to play.
I am looking forward to the updated version as well. :) I see a Grog MP session coming.
Due to the coolness factor of certain people on these boards, I am now in possession of this game and will give it my full attention a.s.a.p.
Bison -
How are you getting the health/stamina/morale bars to appear under the units?
Quote from: Bison on December 11, 2012, 11:55:39 PM
In Eador if they ask you if you want to throw a rock in a calm pool of water, your answer should ALWAYS be no. If you foolishly say yes, this is what crawls out of the pool.
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi830.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz227%2FBison36%2Fdeath.jpg&hash=a8e43e7463bb8283a5f08044099bff038d3fefa3)
This is what a horde of fiends looks like advancing on your helpless level 2 ranger heroe's pathetic army.
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi830.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz227%2FBison36%2Ffiends.jpg&hash=302b334d0fe0277020acd2c28767efe3e6fc418e)
I'd lose this shard a short while later.
Sleeping by the lake again I see :P
Quote from: Yskonyn on December 12, 2012, 04:01:07 AM
I am looking forward to the updated version as well. :) I see a Grog MP session coming.
I wonder how far along
Eador '2' is. In the other thread, it sounded like they were trying for the post-holiday season.
Quote from: Nefaro on December 12, 2012, 09:24:27 AM
Quote from: Yskonyn on December 12, 2012, 04:01:07 AM
I am looking forward to the updated version as well. :) I see a Grog MP session coming.
I wonder how far along Eador '2' is. In the other thread, it sounded like they were trying for the post-holiday season.
You mean 2013?
The Beta has been pushed back to next week for more polishing. I would expect it before March, but no one knows for sure.
Quote from: tgb on December 12, 2012, 07:58:12 AM
Bison -
How are you getting the health/stamina/morale bars to appear under the units?
Use the scroll icon at bottom of page. There is an option for hexes stat bars.
Quote from: Bison on December 11, 2012, 11:55:39 PM
This is what a horde of fiends looks like advancing on your helpless level 2 ranger heroe's pathetic army.
Hoery crap! That's punishing!
Well I did kill one before they destroyed me.
I started with a Mage-type hero, and picked up some Necromancy. Groovy.
Sure saves some upkeep costs when you can just replace dead pitchfork armed peasants with skeletons that don't eat. :D
Yeah my first hero was a Mage Necromancer, which was pretty sweet. On the second shard I tried the ranger hero. They are great at exploring but really lack at leading your armies at low levels. I'm using a Commander on my latest shard. He seems to be pretty good but I'm hoping to find some necromancy scrolls for the raise a unit spell.
One thing skeletons and zombies are great for is lowering morale.
Quote from: tgb on December 13, 2012, 08:07:42 AM
One thing skeletons and zombies are great for is lowering morale.
If you have units of the opposite alignment in your army.
I hired a Barbarian unit (somewhat evil?) and he actually gained +2 Morale rating due to being in an army with the "Evil Incarnate" undead skellies. :) The peasant troops were Neutral alignment so there was no change.
I meant enemy morale
Quote from: tgb on December 13, 2012, 12:19:41 PM
I meant enemy morale
Oh? I didn't know that!
Wish there was a proper English pdf manual for this thing. The google translate version of their web manual is a bit painful.
Yeah. Barbs and brigands or whatever they are called have an unscrupulous alignment. They cause moral issues with your non-evil units.
Seems I am afflicted by the Windows 7 64-bit issues. I have a lot of stuttering, the music sounds garbled, and I get massive slowdowns at points. Shoot, because the game actually looks very entertaining! I am excited to see the updated version.
Quote from: son_of_montfort on December 14, 2012, 12:51:12 AM
Seems I am afflicted by the Windows 7 64-bit issues. I have a lot of stuttering, the music sounds garbled, and I get massive slowdowns at points. Shoot, because the game actually looks very entertaining! I am excited to see the updated version.
Has there been any noted hardware pattern involved?
I've not experienced any issue on Win7-64 yet. So I'm guessing it's hardware specific, or other software is interfering?
I play on my laptop no issue. My desktop has issues. Both have Win7 64. The greatest MS OS since XP.
Quote from: Bison on December 14, 2012, 07:32:19 AM
I play on my laptop no issue. My desktop has issues. Both have Win7 64. The greatest MS OS since XP.
LOL. Not many in that category!
So has all these issues been mouse(cursor)-related as previously mentioned?
Mouse, fps, and sound.
Quote from: Nefaro on December 14, 2012, 01:01:44 AM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on December 14, 2012, 12:51:12 AM
Seems I am afflicted by the Windows 7 64-bit issues. I have a lot of stuttering, the music sounds garbled, and I get massive slowdowns at points. Shoot, because the game actually looks very entertaining! I am excited to see the updated version.
Has there been any noted hardware pattern involved?
I've not experienced any issue on Win7-64 yet. So I'm guessing it's hardware specific, or other software is interfering?
I was under the impression it was the 64-bit and something with multi-core CPUs.
Quote from: son_of_montfort on December 14, 2012, 11:30:38 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on December 14, 2012, 01:01:44 AM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on December 14, 2012, 12:51:12 AM
Seems I am afflicted by the Windows 7 64-bit issues. I have a lot of stuttering, the music sounds garbled, and I get massive slowdowns at points. Shoot, because the game actually looks very entertaining! I am excited to see the updated version.
Has there been any noted hardware pattern involved?
I've not experienced any issue on Win7-64 yet. So I'm guessing it's hardware specific, or other software is interfering?
I was under the impression it was the 64-bit and something with multi-core CPUs.
Maybe the i-series chips' speed throttling isn't working well with it? My quad core & chipset is an AMD, not Intel, and running Eador great. Hopefully they've been able to narrow it down because it
really sounds like a compatibility issue, probably in the hardware. :-[
I'm running two versions of the i5. One has issues the other doesn't. Running Nvidia cards in both. The newer, more powerful rig is the one with the issues. I'm not sure anyone really knows what is happening. I've read many of the theories and suppossed fixes over at gog. And like most games with issue like this some find the home remedy fixes work others don't. I guess the upside is that this risk costs you $5 instead of $40-60. If the game works, it's a real gem of a game.
And you can use it as a preview for the new version, which will likely have all those problems fixed.
Quote from: son_of_montfort on December 14, 2012, 12:51:12 AM
Seems I am afflicted by the Windows 7 64-bit issues. I have a lot of stuttering, the music sounds garbled, and I get massive slowdowns at points. Shoot, because the game actually looks very entertaining! I am excited to see the updated version.
Try throttling your CPU to 50%. Worked for me.
Discussion here: http://www.gog.com/forum/eador_genesis/workaround_for_windows_7_perfomance_issues_framerate_sound_input
Hey Queeg, that seems to work! Awesome!
But now I can't remember what power plan I had on before. I think it was Balanced, as High Performance is a power suck when not in use.
I don't know what it is about this game but I really like it. It's freaking relaxing. The combat is cool. The city upgrading is well done. The event text quests can be quite humorous. The discovery zones scare the crap out of me to attack if they aren't the often repeated discoveries like ancient ruins. I had a mermaid brought to my court and appareantly it's offensive to mermaids to offer to let them live in your fountain. Who knew?
Quote from: Bison on December 16, 2012, 03:04:09 AM
I don't know what it is about this game but I really like it. It's freaking relaxing. The combat is cool. The city upgrading is well done. The event text quests can be quite humorous. The discovery zones scare the crap out of me to attack if they aren't the often repeated discoveries like ancient ruins. I had a mermaid brought to my court and appareantly it's offensive to mermaids to offer to let them live in your fountain. Who knew?
I need to play this some more, because I haven't had any text event quests yet. Actually, this is probably going to get some play while I step away from Bioware stuff for a few days. :D
I received the following suggestions from GOG regarding my reproducible CTD:
Quote1) Please make sure that you use "Run as Administrator" to install and to start the game (right click on the shortcut or setup file and select "Run as Administrator").
2) Please reinstall the game to a simpler path (like: C:\Games).
3) Install the June 2010 DirectX runtime package, then use the DirectX web installer, as your current DirectX may have become corrupt over time.
You can find the ZIP file containing the 2010 package installation files here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=3b170b25-abab-4bc3-ae91-50ceb6d8fa8d
You will have to extract the files into some folder, then open that folder and launch the DXSETUP.exe file in order to proceed with the installation.
Afterwards, download the latest DirectX web installer and use it as well:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35
4) Please update your graphics card drivers:
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
5) Please try DxWnd to make the game work in windowed mode:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/dxwnd/
None of them worked. At Geek's suggestion I also tried reinstalling and that didn't work either. In the end I put it down to a corrupt save and started again. That's fine in practise since I wasn't far into the tutorial, but obviously dreadful in principle, especially considering the way this game handles saves. If I'd lost a lot of time to this bug I think the red mist would have descended.
Masters of the Broken World had better be 100% Win7-64 compatible.
Yeah pretty much sums up the overall responses to the issue people are having. Here's a bunch of mumbo jumbo to try and fix the game. It's not the hardware or the OS. It's something to do with how the game is coded.
Quote from: Bison on December 16, 2012, 06:11:47 PM
It's not the hardware or the OS. It's something to do with how the game is coded.
That's my feeling too. I'm not a developer so I won't pretend to claim it's anyone's fault in particular, but I won't accept any excuses with the remake due in 2013.
The really odd thing is that it is not an across the board issue. Like I've said, my laptop Win7 64 bit with an i5 cpu has no issues at all with the game. Unfortunately I doubt this one will be fixed, which is too bad, with all efforts being put into the new version.
Got some time with the game this weekend and I am extremely impressed. I did notice that Das has started a let's play http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGB6RkFB7ZmN2C5trwaPgdVMzh5JjgIfh (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGB6RkFB7ZmN2C5trwaPgdVMzh5JjgIfh) He also has a how to stop lag video.....
PE
Does anyone know if we can apply the new patch ourselves? Or do we have to re-download the game from GOG.com and reinstall it?
Quote from: Greybriar on December 17, 2012, 11:52:20 AM
Does anyone know if we can apply the new patch ourselves? Or do we have to re-download the game from GOG.com and reinstall it?
I applied the patch directly with no issue.
PE
Have been really impressed with this title.... so much so, I have not been playing Fallen Enchantress.
PE
I was hoping the patch would address the Win7-64 issues but there's no mention of it in the notes. Oh well, I haven't had an issue since I started again, at least.
Quote from: PanzersEast on December 17, 2012, 12:00:03 PM
I applied the patch directly with no issue.
PE
Where did you get the patch?
Log into your account then click on it in your collection, you'll see a universal update.
Quote from: Greybriar on December 17, 2012, 01:56:20 PM
Quote from: PanzersEast on December 17, 2012, 12:00:03 PM
I applied the patch directly with no issue.
PE
Where did you get the patch?
Go to your GOG account.... My Games.... then click on Eador. You will see a list of downloads and you should have the Universal Update 2.0.1 1mb link listed. Click on it and it should start the download.
PE
The patch DOES seem to fix the music garble, mouse cursor, and stuttering issue.
Thank you very much, PE!
Quote from: Greybriar on December 17, 2012, 02:17:30 PM
Thank you very much, PE!
No prob... waiting to try it out tonight.
SoM that is good news.
PE
Thanks for the heads up on the patch!
What version does the game now say with the new patch? I downloaded it, and ran it, and it told me it was updated, but the version that displays seems to be the same (1.05.1).
Is there any documentation as to what was in the patch? Or just a file that's put out there? I know, we get what we pay for, but I'm grooving on the gameplay here! :D
Yeah mine does the same thing. The only info I could find about the patch is on the GOG forum. (http://www.gog.com/forum/eador_genesis/eador_genesis_hotfix_is_up_and_ready_for_download)
Quote from: Huw the Poo on December 18, 2012, 01:37:52 AM
Yeah mine does the same thing. The only info I could find about the patch is on the GOG forum. (http://www.gog.com/forum/eador_genesis/eador_genesis_hotfix_is_up_and_ready_for_download)
you get it working without the mouse crash yet?
Quote from: undercovergeek on December 18, 2012, 05:24:20 AM
you get it working without the mouse crash yet?
Yep, looks like it was a corrupt save, or at least I hope that's all it was. I've got further into it than I did before, at least. Not had much time to play thus far, but I've loved what I have seen of it.
Quote from: Huw the Poo on December 18, 2012, 01:37:52 AM
Yeah mine does the same thing. The only info I could find about the patch is on the GOG forum. (http://www.gog.com/forum/eador_genesis/eador_genesis_hotfix_is_up_and_ready_for_download)
Good find! Thanks, Huw.
Is anyone able to run this under Windows 7 in fullscreen mode?
I run it in fullscreen but with black bars down the sides, which I suspect is not what you mean.
Yeah. Whether or not it's playable is another question all together.
Quote from: Bison on December 19, 2012, 02:03:46 PM
Yeah. Whether or not it's playable is another question all together.
It's playable alright - at least it is for me (for now). I suspect bbmike may be referring to full screen with a proper resolution though.
I haven't had issues with full screen resolution. I get no black bars. Maybe gpu settings? I do have issues on my desktop even with the patch.
Yes, full screen resolution. When I change the setting to Fullscreen in Eador.cfg I can see the game menu (in full screen!) but the game is unplayable. It probably is a GPU problem. It does work fine in Windowed mode though so I can't complain too much. :P
It only has one or two display resolutions.
So if you have a hi-res widescreen monitor, you'll see black bars on the side. If you have a smaller monitor, or laptop, it will fill much of it if not all.
Looks like it runs in 1024x768 resolution and holds that with the black bars if your display is larger. So there's no stretch - that or if your vid card is set to stretch lower resolution sizes to fit, and it doesn't do that on it's own... it could be one of the crash issues. I have mine set to keep the original resolution in the video card settings , and it works fine. I hate the stretch, makes it look out of focus and smeared. Sounds like the game doesn't want to be stretched if you try to force it, though.
There is a PATCH for Eador, out on GOG right now.
Not sure when it was uploaded there - last day or two? Must've been recently!
My monitor is a high resolution widescreen and it's screen is filled with the game without black bars.
Quote from: Bison on December 19, 2012, 06:25:20 PM
My monitor is a high resolution widescreen and it's screen is filled with the game without black bars.
Mine too. I get stretch.
Quote from: Bison on December 19, 2012, 06:25:20 PM
My monitor is a high resolution widescreen and it's screen is filled with the game without black bars.
So it doesn't hold the original resolution on it's own.
I have my vid card set to keep the original resolution, so there's no stretch. Were both of you guys having display issues? Perhaps the stretching had something to do with it, too?
I've been playing this one a bit more, and I'm very impressed. Pays homage to HoMM3 but introduces other game play elements all its own (while maybe borrowing one or two from the Dominions series?).
How many other good games are waiting out there to be translated into English?
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on December 21, 2012, 09:30:24 AM
How many other good games are waiting out there to be translated into English?
I often wonder this. A large number of my favourite games of the last decade have come from eastern Europe. If only there was more money in the market there, imagine what else we'd see.
Quote from: Huw the Poo on December 21, 2012, 01:51:12 PM
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on December 21, 2012, 09:30:24 AM
How many other good games are waiting out there to be translated into English?
I often wonder this. A large number of my favourite games of the last decade have come from eastern Europe. If only there was more money in the market there, imagine what else we'd see.
I am looking forward to the HD reboot of Space Rangers 2.
Quote from: son_of_montfort on December 21, 2012, 03:59:25 PM
Quote from: Huw the Poo on December 21, 2012, 01:51:12 PM
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on December 21, 2012, 09:30:24 AM
How many other good games are waiting out there to be translated into English?
I often wonder this. A large number of my favourite games of the last decade have come from eastern Europe. If only there was more money in the market there, imagine what else we'd see.
I am looking forward to the HD reboot of Space Rangers 2.
:o
I didn't know they were making an HD version of it. Dayum. That gonna be on GOG too, I wonder?
I fire up the SR2 Reboot version fairly regularly, but it'd be nice to run it at something over 1024x768.
Holy shit! I had no idea this was coming either! Oh GOD I'm going to be all over that! Space Rangers 2 is one of my all time favourite games!
And some more exclamation marks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey! Some of us might need exclamation marks, and now you've gone and used them all;
See? See what's happened now? Thanks a lot, Huw:
I also had no idea this was coming. Very cool.
Quote from: Arctic Blast on December 21, 2012, 05:07:55 PM
Hey! Some of us might need exclamation marks, and now you've gone and used them all?
See? See what's happened now? Thanks a lot, Huw:
I also had no idea this was coming. Very cool.
:D
Here, you can borrow this one -> !
Use it before it melts!
Wow. SR2 in HD? That's pretty cool...
OK, just won my second shard.
Here are a couple of gameplay tips for you'all. I have about ... 30 hours in the game. Nice to be on vacation all week!
1) Start with the Scout, and get a big bow. Work hard to extend the range of his attacks. It is VERY useful to take out an enemy ranged attacker every turn
2) A balance of other troops is essential. 50% melee, to defend the ranged attackers, and 50% ranged attackers, to attrite the enemy before they smack into your melee troops
3) Get the Library, Sorcerer's building, and Temple ASAP. Hire the wizard that gives you the healing ability every three turns. This will enable your hurt army to stay in the field longer, assuming that you haven't lost any troops.
4) Use a second field commander to shuttle troops to your Alpha Stack. No lost turns running back home to reload troops
5) Build mines on hilly territories, mills on flat lands. +5 gold, per turn, for each one of these you do. After awhile, money is not an issue, and you can start building up a second alpha stack, then a third.
6) Use your alpha stack to contain the enemy wizards...keep him on the front lines
7) Explore, to 100%, all your provinces. You gain exploration points, even if you turn down the fight offered.
8) Use a hero, by himself, to explore to 100% areas in the rear, that are safe from enemy wizards' attacks.
9) When you see a shop selling goods, SAVE YOUR MONEY! The items you can buy in these shops are amazing, vastly better than anything you can build.
That's all for now. This game isn't that hard, but it is deceptively deep.
Thanks Dennis. Heh, a lot of those tips apply to the Disciples games too. :)
In terms of #5, regarding your late-game advice, I think it depends on the type of shard you're on. Terrain types dictate the gold-vs-crystal production piece, and they also dictate how quickly you can explore a province (e.g., it's easier to explore Plains than Swamp).
I haven't played the game enough to disagree, but as you say, the game is deceptively deep!