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Looking forward to this one.

Marvel is just on fire lately !

I really hope they do a good job with this.

The reports of Agent Coulson's death would appear to be a bit premature.

That will be the first time I purposely watched network television since Two Broke Girls premiered.

Quote from: Staggerwing on May 13, 2013, 07:25:53 PM
The reports of Agent Coulson's death would appear to be a bit premature.

They can make up any story they want about how he didn't die. I'm just glad he's back.

I'm voting some kind of android or grown in a lab from his own DNA.

Or the series predates his demise.

Quote from: Centurion40 on May 14, 2013, 10:11:54 AM
Or the series predates his demise.

That's my guess...

Quote from: Centurion40 on May 14, 2013, 10:11:54 AM
Or the series predates his demise.

Maybe. I've read some things that indicate he was never really meant to die in Avengers, just to seem like he did. I'm hoping the show is his return.

I hope this show does well, but I don't think it will make it on network TV.  Two seasons at most. 

Perhaps.  Apparently Dancing with Stars is a falling star, and will be cutting its elimination show to make room for SHIELD. Perhaps SHIELD will have a run to rival the X-Files.

ABC seems pretty committed to shows with sci-fi/fantasy elements. I know they ordered a spinoff of Once Upon A Time.

Hopefully, the era of the reality show is drawing to a close.

Rewatching the Avengers.  Fury claims that Coulson died, but he needed something to push the group together.  What if Coulson didn't die, but Fury claimed he did to unite the members of The Avengers. 

Good point since the card collection wasn't with Coulson when he 'died' so it wasn't his blood on the cards...

There's been a lot of speculation about whether or not Coulson actually died in Avengers. Given that it's the Marvel universe, I'm going with, "No".

Also, Clark Gregg (the actor who played Coulson) mentioned in an interview somewhere that he'd been specifically informed by Whedon that his character would return. 

Longer trailer. Hints at Colson's return from the dead.

"Don't touch Lola."  LOL! 

They showed the entire pilot at Comicon.

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/07/agents-of-shield-pilot-reveal/

Gawd, I'm horny to see this show.

Quote from: mirth on July 22, 2013, 05:49:41 PM
They showed the entire pilot at Comicon.

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/07/agents-of-shield-pilot-reveal/

Gawd, I'm horny to see this show.

From the pilot script:

Quote"she might as well be one of those sweaty cosplay girls crowding around Stark Tower"

LOL!

Long live Phil Colson!

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The promotion is wide-spread.  Marvel Avengers Alliance just added Agent Colson as a character!  Woohoo!

Five things you didn't know about Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.:

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/marvels-agents-h-e-l-d-5-things-014254478.html

Quote from: MetalDog on August 04, 2013, 11:39:46 PM
Five things you didn't know about Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.:

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/marvels-agents-h-e-l-d-5-things-014254478.html

Whedon's saying all the right things about what the show will be.

This is it ladies!  What do you think?

Go easy with any spoilers. I'll be watching tomorrow on Hulu.

Quote from: Staggerwing on September 24, 2013, 07:35:56 PM
Go easy with any spoilers. I'll be watching tomorrow on Hulu.

+1 Won't be watching until tomorrow. Through perfectly legitimate online sources of course!

Cobie Smulders.  Agent Colson.  And a hot hacker chick.  What else could you ask for?

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It wasn't bad. The problem is that it follows the usual Joss Whedon formulaic dialog.

INSERT COMEDIC JAB HERE...comment...comment...comment...WITTY BANTER HERE...action scene...AMUSING COMMENT...driving scene...mention heroes who will never appear in this show...action scene...HAHA! MORE LAFFS!

It kinda fell flat for me.

I watched not knowing what to expect and wasn't disappointed.  Unfortuantely, I don't remember being terribly excited about anything either.  I want it to be good.  I'm going to give it a few episodes.

I was 45 minutes in and all I could think of was "this is Alphas with better production values and better-looking agents"

You could tag out Rising Tide for Red Flag
The unlikely / confused 'hero' who is doing things he doesn't understand, and the protagonists of the show need to 'save' him
The conflicted leader of the team trying to pull conflicting personalities together, who has his own secrets that he doesn't even know
Enigmatic 'other groups' that show up without a whole lot of definition to (presumably) be filled out later

I still have hopes for a better show, but I'm afraid that it's going to go for a "big world-saving splash" to make the first season seem über-cool, but then what do you do to top it?

I'm hoping that if it makes it to season 2 that Cobie Smulders comes over full-time.

I suspect the Disney mothership is going to keep it on the air as weekly TV reminder that there's a series of movie franchises behind it.

I haven't seen it all the way through, but it was better than I expected- after having seen a number of promos, I expected boring weak shit (my expectations were extremely low), and it wasn't complete shit.  It was somewhat weak, but it wasn't completely boring.

I never watched Alphas, so I can't make that comparison.

I liked how they tied it into the Marvel Universe, in the wake of the Avengers battle in New York against Loki and the aliens.  I liked how they explained Coulson's presence, and I liked the banter of Couslon and Hill (Smolders).  I like the agent's gadget in the opening scenes. But, IMHO, the jury is out on the rest of it.

It was pretty much what I expected.  This is basically done the same as the recent Marvel movies.  Keep in mind, this is targeted to include a younger audience and its going to be as hard hitting and dark as some shows we like to watch, Walking Dead, Breaking Bad, SOA, etc....

There is hints of a bigger story line, but I think if they keep it simple and a lot of stand alone episodes, then this could be good.  If they go for the 'have to watch every episode' be story arc, then I don't think it will last. 

Like Brant, I think we could seen a number of lead up and post movie ties ins.  With the new Thor movie coming out in November, we will know soon enough. 

I also think this may be a vehicle to get some lesser Mavel hero's and villians introduced to the public than being able to give them their own movie. 

I'm fine if it's being targeted to a younger audience. I was comfortable letting my kids watch Avengers, I'd like it if they could watch this as well.

I'll be checking it out tonight.

I finally saw the priemier. It was pretty much what I expected and wanted. I'm not sure about making Coulson into a badass. The thing that made him work so well in the film was his matter-of-fact, get the job done attitude. I love Clark Gregg and how he has taken a throwaway character and made him into a significant part of the Marvel Universe. However the Agent Coulson of the show is not the one we know from the movies. I need to adjust to that still.

Quote from: mirth on September 29, 2013, 05:20:21 PM
I finally saw the priemier. It was pretty much what I expected and wanted. I'm not sure about making Coulson into a badass. The thing that made him work so well in the film was his matter-of-fact, get the job done attitude. I love Clark Gregg and how he has taken a throwaway character and made him into a significant part of the Marvel Universe. However the Agent Coulson of the show is not the one we know from the movies. I need to adjust to that still.

Tell me mirthie, did you watch any of the "Marvel One-Shots"?

There was one where Coulson was 100% badass mofo who kicked ass and took names.

Quote from: Centurion40 on September 30, 2013, 08:12:58 AM

Quote from: mirth on September 29, 2013, 05:20:21 PM
I finally saw the priemier. It was pretty much what I expected and wanted. I'm not sure about making Coulson into a badass. The thing that made him work so well in the film was his matter-of-fact, get the job done attitude. I love Clark Gregg and how he has taken a throwaway character and made him into a significant part of the Marvel Universe. However the Agent Coulson of the show is not the one we know from the movies. I need to adjust to that still.

Tell me mirthie, did you watch any of the "Marvel One-Shots"?

There was one where Coulson was 100% badass mofo who kicked ass and took names.

Haven't seen that. I'll have to check it out.

^Thx man!

Awesome!

Is there some kind of list of these just so I don't waste hours rooting around on YouTube?

Looks like there are only 4 so far:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_One-Shots

Can't wait to look at those One Shots.

Saw the second episode.  Too early to tell, but, it looks like ABC and Marvel are making an entree into tween television.  Everyone seems to be a stock character straight out of central casting.  The maverick agent.  The nerd science types with wholesome romance in their future.  The reluctant veteran.  And the hot, sketchy, chick with the heart of gold.  Coulson provides the Zen attitude and glue that holds it together.  It's all good if everyone acts their roles well.  If not, it will be rote and wooden and I will stop watching.  Add to that, the bad Wonder Years knock off that follows it and the Malin Ackerman (non) comedy after that, and that's what leads me to think that Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is made for a family audience.  That's not a bad thing, but I don't have any kids that age and I want to see somethiing a little more edgy.

Unfortunately, I think the days of edgy movies based on Marvel Comics are over. It's Disney now making movies for the mass market. The first Iron Man was probably as edgy as it's going to get. Before you get too upset though, think of what Michael Bay has done to Transformers and rejoice for Joss Whedon handling the Avengers.

Don't get me wrong, I'm going to watch.  It's just my, 'pull the plug,' reflex may be shorter than if it was something a little more my speed.

They're way overdoing the 'build a team' thing that was already done in Avengers. So far, other than Clark Gregg and Ming-Na Wen, the cast is 'meh'.     

Yeah, but at least some peeps actually got shot, blown out of planes and presumably killed.

Nice to see Nick Fury, but I really want him to drop the "m-f" bomb.

Best episode of the season yet.  Nice, compact story.  Everybody got a turn.  Didn't feel forced.

I like it so far. One thing though, Bear McCready is capable of some amazing theatrical and TV scores. Did he really have to phone this one in?



EDIT: (fixed some spelling)

I'm really liking this show. Who is Bear Mc Cready? Doesn't the cargo hold of the "Bus" look a lot like the cargo hold of Firefly's Serenity? Or is it just me?

Quote from: Sir Slash on October 16, 2013, 09:26:28 AM
I'm really liking this show. Who is Bear Mc Cready? Doesn't the cargo hold of the "Bus" look a lot like the cargo hold of Firefly's Serenity? Or is it just me?

My Bad: it's actually spelled McCreary. He has done a number of TV scores and some film. Most of the folks here may know him from the music in the new  Battlestar Galactica:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_McCreary

I agree it's coming along. I am looking at it like ST:TNG. It REALLY took a while for that ensemble to gel and AoS may be having the same growing pains. They need to tone down the goofy scientist types a bit yet.

I have a minor issue with no copilot for the bus regardless of the quality of the auto-pilot. Let's all sing together: "It is an FAA regulaaaaaaaation!.................................."

Hmm... Nick Fury v. the FAA.


(Outcome? the 'Bus' doesn't have to have a co-pilot.  ;))

Two things:

1) Ming Na Wen will be 50 on November 20.  That's right, I said 50.  Five oh.

2) She has also apparently requested a role in Episode VII of Star Wars.

Quote from: Staggerwing on October 16, 2013, 03:53:27 PM
Hmm... Nick Fury v. the FAA.


(Outcome? the 'Bus' doesn't have to have a co-pilot.  ;))

Good point.

Quote from: MetalDog on October 16, 2013, 07:55:47 PM

1) Ming Na Wen will be 50 on November 20.  That's right, I said 50.  Five oh.

:o

I'll be 50 on Nov. 2nd, and I look like a big bag of trash!  I would have guessed that she might be 40, 42 at high end- but she definitely looks mid-30s.

50 is the new 30. Works for me.

Quote from: DoctorQuest on October 18, 2013, 11:31:25 AM
50 is the new 30. Works for me.

I'm good with that, and I'll be even more stoked if 120 becomes the new 70.

The show is starting to gel now. Last night was a very strong episode. Could do without the "missing parents" cliche story for Sky, but that's just me being picky.

Quote from: mirth on October 23, 2013, 10:00:00 PM
The show is starting to gel now. Last night was a very strong episode. Could do without the "missing parents" cliche story for Sky, but that's just me being picky.

I would agree. The last couple of episodes did not give me the fingernails-scratching-on-chalkboard feeling I had early on with the interaction of some of the characters.

I could watch Sky all night....

Quote from: mirth on October 23, 2013, 10:00:00 PMCould do without the "missing parents" cliche story for Sky, but that's just me being picky.

Seriously?  This is Marvel.

Quote from: Mrs Darwin on October 24, 2013, 05:49:11 PM

Quote from: mirth on October 23, 2013, 10:00:00 PMCould do without the "missing parents" cliche story for Sky, but that's just me being picky.

Seriously?  This is Marvel.

Lol. I know, but it's Joss Whedon too. I set the bar a little higher.

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Makes me expect an impending merchandise onslaught.

Hide in plain sight? ;D

Anyone still watching?  The last few weeks just lead me to believe that this show is trying to be a live comic book.  And I like it.

Does CBS host the episodes on their website like their other shows?  I'm thinking this is one I might like to try and catch up on, if possible. 

http://watchabc.go.com/marvels-agents-of-shield/SH55300807

I find the Networks' own episode hosting to be less than optimum compared to Hulu (free) or Hulu Plus ($9/mo). The networks have buffering and pixelating issues (esp. CBS) and the ad popups and through-click are sometimes annoyingly worked into the viewing window. If you don't mind the adds themselves I'd get Hulu to watch. If you want to skip adds and also get your various 1-hour shows done in 42 minutes you could also go with Amazon Prime ($78/yr, some episodes free, some $1.99 SD, $2.99 HD) or iTunes ( no yearly cost, most episodes $1.99SD/$2.99HD).

I'm still onboard with this one. I think the show's getting better even though it doesn't have an overall plot but it always leaves you wanting to see the next episode through some kind of tease. I'm happy ABC has let the show develop on it's own unlike when Weddon did Firefly.

Haven't seen this week's episode yet, but last week's was ho-hum, IMHO.

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Jonathan Frakes directed this weeks episode.

Were any Roswell Aliens harmed during filming?

No, but an Asgardian looking suspiciously like Peter MacNicol showed up.

Love the Thor tie-in. How the hell did "The Beserker" get past Hemidal? Sounds like a damned good plot for another Asgard episode. Maybe Sif will show-up. :D :D

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That's what I'm talkin-bout! Damn that armor is lucky. :-*

Her boobs would be so much bigger in comic book form :P

Future Wonder Woman;

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nice lasso.

Star may never leave the theater.

Lasso? What lasso? Ohhhh. Now I see it. She wouldn't need that rope to keep me in one place. ;D

Quote from: MetalDog on November 19, 2013, 08:10:47 PM
Jonathan Frakes directed this weeks episode.

My fave episode so far this season.

Quote from: Centurion40 on November 21, 2013, 10:58:09 AM

Quote from: MetalDog on November 19, 2013, 08:10:47 PM
Jonathan Frakes directed this weeks episode.

My fave episode so far this season.

+1 Very good episode. I loved the subtle nod to Dollhouse at the very end.

One more

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I've been seeing promos for this nonstop since I've been on vacation (I never watch network tv so I rely on Netflix and a few other online sources) and it looks completely uninteresting. I've not heard of it except in passing a couple of times and thought it was another Marvel movie.

Now that I see it's made for TV, I'll give it a wide berth as it'll be way too family oriented and boring most likely. The plane that looks like a Siamese conjoined C-141 in the promo is especially laughable.

Then again I did watch Knight Rider, a Street Hawk, Airwolf, The Highwayman, Automan, and many others once upon a time, so what do I know...

The first few episodes are slow.  It's definitely family oriented and formulaic.  However, I find if I think of it in the context of a comic book, it's entertaining.  You know, the comics tend to have two dimensional stereotype characters and fairly well telegraphed plotlines.    In that light Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is pretty good.

I agree, it's a great comic book on TV. Just don't think too much while watching....  ;)

I gave up after 3-4 episodes when it felt like they just grafted the major underlying themes from Alphas onto a Marvel franchise and sold it to a network during Avengers hysteria.

My biggest problem with so many of today's TV shows is that they feel like they have to go "big" too soon in their storylines, and once you get some huge plot point dropped on you in week 6, how do you sustain a show without constantly trying to top it.
Heroes had that problem.  Scandal had that problem.  Alphas had that problem.  Season 2 of Revolution is going through it.  The Hawaii 5-0 reboot has been trying to recover from two such self-inflicted problems.  Dollhouse had that problem.
The only two series off the top of my head that haven't had that problem recently are Lost and the BSG remake.

The SHIELD show seems to be trying to be a family-friendly Alphas with some James Bond gadgetry mixed in, and Marvel's names slapped on the supers.  The writing just hasn't been there to keep me interested.

One of the things I love about comics is the cross tie of different series.  Any of the Avengers that had their own books, Cap, Thor, IM, etc., would occasionally have storylines or villains spill out of one book into another.  I really think Disney and ABC have a goldmine on their hands tying their movies with the show. It still won't help some of the problems with Agents, but, it should keep the series going.  That may turn out to be a good thing or a bad thing depending on how well they develop the show.

Welcome back Colson. I missed you. :-*

Quote from: MetalDog on December 30, 2013, 07:04:42 PM
One of the things I love about comics is the cross tie of different series.  Any of the Avengers that had their own books, Cap, Thor, IM, etc., would occasionally have storylines or villains spill out of one book into another.  I really think Disney and ABC have a goldmine on their hands tying their movies with the show. It still won't help some of the problems with Agents, but, it should keep the series going.  That may turn out to be a good thing or a bad thing depending on how well they develop the show.

That would be great from a fan point of view, but the stars of the movies would never do TV unless the paychecks were large, which I doubt they are with a fledgling TV series. Unless it gets up to Seinfeld or Friends proportions in popularity they'll never have that kind of bank.

It's possible that certain movie contracts may have a required tv episode appearance or two written in for tie-in shows. Don't forget that Samuel L Jackson has had a cameo in 'Agents' already.

Quote from: Staggerwing on January 08, 2014, 07:17:41 AM
It's possible that certain movie contracts may have a required tv episode appearance or two written in for tie-in shows. Don't forget that Samuel L Jackson has had a cameo in 'Agents' already.

^^^ this

Didn't think of that. I keep forgetting that most media houses encompass both film and television studios (and probably boner pills too, who knows).

I haven't watched Agents...since Sons of Anarchy went off the air.  I always forget it's Tuesday night.

With Justified, Archer and The Following starting new seasons this month, AoS will likely fall to the wayside for me. I can only follow so many shows at once. I just started watching Chuck on Netflix and I'm already behind on the new season of Downton Abbey.

I have to catch the last season of Chuck one of these weeks. I hope the show went out on a high note, not too formulaic.

I'm 2/3 of the way through the second season. It's been much better than I anticipated. I'm not a huge Zachary Levi fan, but he's grown on me. Adam Baldwin is his usual level of awesome. And there's really nothing I can say about Yvonne Strahovski that would do her justice.

I started watching Chuck after you guys were talking about it here. I never watched it when it was on network TV and it kept popping up on my recommended list on Netflix, and now I've gotten through the first season and just started the second season, and I'm hooked on it now.

Zachary Levi is just about perfect for his role, as is Adam and Yvonne.

I've noticed that later in the first season and into the second season the writing got a lot looser and free with the humor, so there's several laugh-out-loud funny moments in it. It's just getting better and better now.

I'm almost done season 2 of Chuck. It seems to really hit it's stride in season 2. It's not much of a spy show, but it's fun and the cast is great. I enjoy lighter shows Chuck and Burn Notice as an alternative to things like Sons of Anarchy, Justified, etc.

I really liked the way that the season wrapped-up and linked to the events in the Winter Soldier.

But is Agent Ward a bad guy, or double-double agent?  My vote is the latter.

Yeah, I think he's not gone over to the Dark Side either. I'm starting to feel a little like the show is an advertisement for the movies. But I like it anyway.

The most recent episode was great. The tie-in with the new Cap movie was well done. Nice to have some payoff for the weaker episodes in the early going.

Any thoughts on the season-ender? It didn't really fire me up for next season. Maybe there'll be a Guardians of the Galaxy tie-in. Colson in space. ;D

Haven't seen it yet. Be watching it tonight.

Quote from: Sir Slash on April 16, 2014, 09:49:36 AM
Any thoughts on the season-ender? It didn't really fire me up for next season. Maybe there'll be a Guardians of the Galaxy tie-in. Colson in space. ;D

I really hope so.  I loved the Guardians of the Galaxy trailer!

But the season isn't over.  There are still 4 more episodes to go.  The season finale airs May 13, 2014.

Ohhh. man. I thought last night was it, being 2 hours. Guess I'll have to re-post after May 13th.  :-[

Last night's episode felt like a filler.

And how did Patton Oswald not get an awesome death scene?!

Quote from: mirth on April 23, 2014, 09:48:45 AM
Last night's episode felt like a filler.

And how did Patton Oswald not get an awesome death scene?!

Yeah!  All he got to do is drip!!  >:(

Quote from: mirth on April 23, 2014, 09:48:45 AM
Last night's episode felt like a filler.

Yeah maybe a little. But I think Ward is toast. He's killed too many good guys to be a double, triple, quadruple agent. Or Hydra turns him in to a super-villain and he goes out ala-Darth Vader. Redeemed at the last moment.

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... and he goes out ala-Darth Vader. Redeemed at the last moment.

All for his love of Skye.

Hell, I want to see Ward die at this point. If the writers/producers try to redeem him and keep him alive, I'll be extremely disappointed.

Maybe it's not really Ward...

Quote from: Staggerwing on April 23, 2014, 06:47:02 PM
Maybe it's not really Ward...

Ugh, I hope they don't play it that way. I like the way Ward's betrayal has shaped the story and how it will impact the team going forward. If he does survive, he has potential as a long term, major nemesis. It wouldn't be unprecedented in a Whedon show for a major character to go from good to bad (and possibly back to good eventually) and continue to be part of the show for multiple seasons.

Still I want him dead. Especially for murdering Agent Koenig!

The more I think about it, the more I agree with Dr.Q.  Agent Ward is toast.  Agent Triplett (the grandson of a Howling Commando) can replace Ward as the team's "Specialist".

Colbie Smulders is a welcome addition...And hot.

Yeah good episode but I feel like I don't know what's going on because I haven't seen the latest Capt. America.

Quote from: Sir Slash on April 30, 2014, 01:42:59 PM
Yeah good episode but I feel like I don't know what's going on because I haven't seen the latest Capt. America.

So go and see it!!

Quote from: Centurion40 on May 01, 2014, 10:11:49 AM

Quote from: Sir Slash on April 30, 2014, 01:42:59 PM
Yeah good episode but I feel like I don't know what's going on because I haven't seen the latest Capt. America.

So go and see it!!

Seconded!  As in Thor: The Dark World, I liked the sequel even more than the original. 

It's on my list. ;)

Quote from: Sir Slash on May 01, 2014, 10:41:47 PM
It's on my list. ;)

Mine, too! I am not worthy.

Sure you are Doctor. Sure you are.

A great Season-Ender. This series sagged in the mid-season but soared toward the end. I can see Wheddon's fingerprints all over this one. It's the new Buffy the Vampire Slayer. O0

That was a season finale with some payoff! Wow!

There is going to be 13 episode series featuring Agent Carter.  It's going to run in between a split 22 episode season of Agents of Shield.

Quote from: OJsDad on May 14, 2014, 06:38:46 AM
There is going to be 13 episode series featuring Agent Carter.  It's going to run in between a split 22 episode season of Agents of Shield.

I'm down with that. They did a "One-Shot" for Agent Carter that was pretty cool.

Quote from: Sir Slash on May 13, 2014, 08:27:35 PM
A great Season-Ender. This series sagged in the mid-season but soared toward the end. I can see Wheddon's fingerprints all over this one. It's the new Buffy the Vampire Slayer. O0

(I was not going to read this thread again until I had a chance to watch. My son and I watched it at his place tonight on his new HD TV. Nice...)

We both agreed it was a great way to wind up the season. Close some arcs and start some new ones. The Skye story could get interesting...

Yep.  Looking forward to season 2.

Some great cast additions lined up for Season 2:

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/tv/agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-see-photo-of-lucy-lawless-as-isabelle-hartley/

She was also on Starz's production, "Sparticus". She's got a great rack on her unless those were stunt boobs. Bet we won't see much of those on AOS.

Quote from: Sir Slash on August 27, 2014, 10:03:29 AM
She was also on Starz's production, "Sparticus". She's got a great rack on her unless those were stunt boobs. Bet we won't see much of those on AOS.

Stunt boobs??????????????????  :D :coolsmiley: :o :uglystupid2: My imagination goes wild.

We need more smileys.

Hey lady, is it cold in here? Or are you just happy to see me? ;)

Season 2 premier tonight. My good deed for today. O:-)

excellent!

Anybody watch last night? I thought it was a good start to the season.

Not yet. Going to watch it tonight.

Forgiv my technological ignorance, but how are you watching it mirth? The wife and I want to watch the show together but she has a commitment on Tuesday nights and I'm technologically challenged.

We use a PVR, personal video recorder, that is provided, for rent, by our cable provider.
Much better than old VCR's in that you can just choose a show to record and it will record it whenever they bounce the show around to.
We pretty much never watch TV "live" anymore.

Quote from: Airborne Rifles on September 24, 2014, 02:20:36 PM
Forgiv my technological ignorance, but how are you watching it mirth? The wife and I want to watch the show together but she has a commitment on Tuesday nights and I'm technologically challenged.

ummm...I'm watching it through entirely legitimate online means  8)


Actually you can watch it through the ABC website if you don't mind a few ads

http://abc.go.com/shows/marvels-agents-of-shield/episode-guide/season-02/201-season-2-premiere-shadows (http://abc.go.com/shows/marvels-agents-of-shield/episode-guide/season-02/201-season-2-premiere-shadows)

Awesome, thanks!

Reed Diamond does a dreadful German accent, but otherwise that was damn good!

Agree. A good start.

Good start, and tonight's ep carried it on.

I mean, occasionally I still griped about stupid writing -- the writers go far out of the way to set up a rogue attempt at shooting a character who must absolutely not be given the slightest reason to think he's going to be shot, and then for literally no good reason the sniper runs out of his hidden nest down to the street shoving aside people and a hot dog vendor to snipe the guy from a hundred feet away: just far enough away to make the shot worthless against someone who now knows something is wrong.

That was excessively retarded. Not least because the sniper explicitly knew he shouldn't let the target feel threatened, and already had a perfectly good down-angle shot.

But otherwise still a strong improvement from most of Season 1.


Look, can I spoil who the guest comics villain for eps 1 and 2 are? Because that guy does a great job, and the writers imported him into the Marvel Cinematic Universe very well.

Also... is Lawless already gone from the show??  That doesn't seem likely, but if not they're doing a good job faking me out on it -- all the hints that might normally suggest she's coming back seem missing...  :buck2: ???

Yeah!  Lawless shouldn't have been knocked-off in the 1st episode.  >:(

It looks her character is well and truly dead after only one episode (as much as any character can be in the Marvel Universe). And yeah that sucks.

Too bad. I thought Colson might get a little this season. What's with the symbols? Tie in with Guardians of the Galaxy maybe? I could see Colson and the raccoon getting wasted together and then into a bar fight.

Quote from: Sir Slash on October 03, 2014, 02:39:57 PM
Too bad. I thought Colson might get a little this season. What's with the symbols? Tie in with Guardians of the Galaxy maybe? I could see Colson and the raccoon getting wasted together and then into a bar fight.

Maybe the symbols are Kree?

You may be on to something Centurion.

Great episode this week. The May on May action was hawt.

Yeah but I was hoping for some blouse or skirt ripping scenes. ^-^

{snipped}  ::) :idiot2: :uglystupid2: :)) Somehow missed all the extra posts since last time I checked in.

Quote from: Centurion40 on October 03, 2014, 03:09:32 PM

Quote from: Sir Slash on October 03, 2014, 02:39:57 PM
Too bad. I thought Colson might get a little this season. What's with the symbols? Tie in with Guardians of the Galaxy maybe? I could see Colson and the raccoon getting wasted together and then into a bar fight.

Maybe the symbols are Kree?

I don't remember seeing similar symbols connected with the Kree in Guardians. However, the fan consensus seems to be that the blue alien last season was a Kree. If so he wasn't a normal Kree, considering his effects on some people.

Worth noting that Raina and Skye may be related; Skye's Evil Father has shown up recently, don't know where or who her true mother is. (Presumably not May though that was briefly teased last season.)

Kyle Maclachlan does a good psycho!

^^ Which continued to be true last week.

If they decide his name is Robert (i.e "Bob"), I may not be able to resist laughing in glee.

Also happy with Mockingbird's introduction -- I suppose there would be too many similar asskicking women of a particular character type if Lucy Lawless' character had survived, and Bobby Morse is more lore appropriate anyway.

Quote from: JasonPratt on October 28, 2014, 02:28:04 PM
Also happy with Mockingbird's introduction -- I suppose there would be too many similar asskicking women of a particular character type if Lucy Lawless' character had survived, and Bobby Morse is more lore appropriate anyway.

+1 I like how they introduced Mockingbird and she's a total bad ass. Still though, introducing and killing off Lucy Lawless in a single episode was harsh.

The fight scene between May and the bad guy was classic.  O0

Grumpy cat mug!

And Adrianne Palicki in the Star Wars tee - nerdgasm!

Quote from: mirth on October 29, 2014, 08:52:58 PM
And Adrianne Palicki in the Star Wars tee - nerdgasm!

I was trying to remember if she has been cast in SW, or if that was just Marvel playing around saying "Yeah, no, StarWars is fictional in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, too." The T definitely means there won't be any chance of overlaps.

(...except neither do I remember the T saying "Wars" across the bottom. Then again, I'm just a guy, I may have been distracted by the shape of the lettering on "Star".  :smitten: )

While I'm glad, in a way, they went to a proper blonde look for Morse, it looks completely fake. Not sure in the end that was the best idea.

Andrew Wheeler recaps Shield for ComicsAlliance, and has been (almost) legitimately brutal on the show last season. I honestly don't understand why its ratings continue to drop, because despite some continuing plot stupidities -- which are par for the course on most shows of this sort -- this season has come back improved 1000 percent.

Anyway, this week he started off: "Welcome to season one, episode two of Mockingbird, the awesome new Marvel TV show starring Adrianne Palicki as kick-ass superspy Bobbi Morse. It could be everything anyone ever wanted a live action Marvel TV show to be!

Unfortunately and inexplicably this new show is saddled to Marvel's Agents of SHIELD, a show that spent an entire season being so terrible that its ratings seem to be in freefall."

I don't think that's fair to the writing and work being across the show this season, but it's fair to Palicki.  :smitten:

Now, for that guy at the end.

He was credited only as "stranger" but they wouldn't introduce someone like that and not use him in a big way (or big in proportion to this show). Given the alien tatts he's working on, I'm going to guess he's a waaaay scaled-down version of Michael Korvac.

Also: a theory I recently saw for the "Diviner" (the artifact that splinters people into dust), other than it being one of the missing infinity stones (though I couldn't believe they're going to get them all on screen this long before the Infinity War movies), is that this whole plotline is not related to the Kree at all, or not primarily -- we don't know for sure the blue alien was Kree, and I don't recall those symbols being part of Ronan's gig in Guardians 1 -- but rather to the Inhumans.

(I don't think this would fit with the Korvac theory, but the MCUverse could be combining storylines.)

Didn't she fill-out that Tee nicely. I wonder if all that was really her or just stunt boobs.

 SPOILER ALERT---So the alien symbols are a city? Any ideas which? It sure as hell ain't Cleveland( one of my favorite lines from, "They Live")

The Inhumans relaunched a comic series recently with those symbols subtly drawn into the standard "Inhumans" title font.

Between that and the announcement of the coming movie (and who would have thought we'd ever have an Inhumans movie -- I'm pretty sure I can only name and slightly describe four, and one is a teleporting dog), the city is probably Atillan. The Kree were responsible for introducing the mutant variations which produced the Inhumans (who are mutants but not Mutants so the MCU can use them -- odds are reasonably good this means the Maximov twins will be Inhumans now instead of "mutants"). So the Kree connections work out, too.

I was SURE the crazy murdering guy would turn out to be a MCU dialed-down version of Korvac, but he wasn't.  :'(

Ward's super-psycho side of the plot continues to be amazing.

Ooo, Attilan.  Good call!  O0

What if Skye's dad ends up being Maximus?

I found it interesting that they said that the alien corpse (where the life-restoring drugs were harvested) is "older than the Pyramids."  Could there be a connection to En Sabah Nur/Apocalypse?

Most likely it is nothing more than a reference to the Inhumans having an advanced civilization older than all other human civilizations.

I'm just curious to see how they animate Medusa's hair

Plus, if they have Keanu Reeves play Black Bolt, no one has to worry about how monotone he is!  >:D

Quote from: Centurion40 on November 13, 2014, 12:45:20 PM
Could there be a connection to En Sabah Nur/Apocalypse?

Most likely it is nothing more than a reference to the Inhumans having an advanced civilization older than all other human civilizations.

Can't be Apoc, Fox owns his rights. The MCU could get away with having the Maximov twins be inhumans instead of mutants as a way of avoiding shared-rights conflicts with Fox (between X-men and Avengers), but Apocalypse wasn't such a key Avengers foe that they had to negotiate shared rights. Heck, they went out of their way to use the Chitauri (aka Ultimate not-Skrulls-before-Ultimate-Skrulls-appeared) due to Fox having the rights to the Skrulls for the Fantastic Four. No reason to do that for someone the Avengers barely mess with.

I do however suspect that the 084 from that Mexican temple will come back into the plot soon. Reading recaps of the 1st season for amusement, I was reminded that they teased Skye's status as a 084 waaay back in that 2nd episode through a bit of throwaway dialogue. Some of the preplanning seems impressive in hindsight, though how much of that is/was narrative angulation (from a fencing term, slight adjustments to make things suddenly work great) who knows?

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. first season now on Netflix.

Guess I know what I'll be watching tonight. I hope this is as good as you nerds say it is.

Quote from: Banzai_Cat on November 20, 2014, 07:12:37 PM
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. first season now on Netflix.

Guess I know what I'll be watching tonight. I hope this is as good as you nerds say it is.

Ugh. Most of the first season is mediocre. The last 5-6 episodes are where it starts to click. Hang on for the payoff.

That first episode really wasn't bad at all. Interesting stuff. Not really a fan of the impossibly good-looking as actors but they're pretty good actors in their own right, so I'll stick with it.

As Mirth said, a lot of the mid-season episodes are pretty cliche, but there is some back-story in them so just push through them and then watch the rollercoaster drop down into the fun.

Something I'm finding kind of odd is how they're referring to superheroes in roundabout ways. They've actually mentioned the name "Stark" but that's the only direct reference to any of the Avengers they've made so far. No mention of their hero names - Iron Man, Hulk, etc.

Quote from: Banzai_Cat on November 20, 2014, 08:23:30 PM
Something I'm finding kind of odd is how they're referring to superheroes in roundabout ways. They've actually mentioned the name "Stark" but that's the only direct reference to any of the Avengers they've made so far. No mention of their hero names - Iron Man, Hulk, etc.

Get used to that for most of S1.

Sounds like a rights thing, but this is a Marvel production...sigh, okay, I'll deal with it.  ???

Quote from: Banzai_Cat on November 20, 2014, 08:00:33 PM
That first episode really wasn't bad at all. Interesting stuff. Not really a fan of the impossibly good-looking as actors but they're pretty good actors in their own right, so I'll stick with it.

It's a good show and at its worst the cast makes up for most of the shortcomings. I nearly gave up on it midway through the first season and some of the episodes aren't easy to get through. Once it hits its stride, all is forgiven.

It would have done better as a 13 episode season, rather than the 22 or so that it was. Silly network TV.

I didn't know it was Netflix. I'll probably end up rewatching it all this weekend :P

Just finished the 2nd episode. I like that I'm not seeing what's coming thus far, and I usually can do that, which kills most movies and TV series for me.

Fury's appearance in a cameo was interesting. An obvious ploy to cement the TV series' credibility through the movies, but a humorous one nevertheless.

I like Lola, but 'the Cavalry' is far, FAR hotter.  :smitten:

One of my favorite shows last season and this season too. It's got Josh Wheddon all over it. And that means you can never see it coming. Hot chicks including Lola. O0

Quote from: mirth on November 20, 2014, 07:53:18 PM

Quote from: Banzai_Cat on November 20, 2014, 07:12:37 PM
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. first season now on Netflix.

Guess I know what I'll be watching tonight. I hope this is as good as you nerds say it is.

Ugh. Most of the first season is mediocre. The last 5-6 episodes are where it starts to click. Hang on for the payoff.

What mirth said.

Quote from: mirth on November 20, 2014, 07:53:18 PM

Quote from: Banzai_Cat on November 20, 2014, 07:12:37 PM
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. first season now on Netflix.

Guess I know what I'll be watching tonight. I hope this is as good as you nerds say it is.

Ugh. Most of the first season is mediocre. The last 5-6 episodes are where it starts to click. Hang on for the payoff.

I might try a binge-watch over Thanksgiving weekend.

I gave up after the first 2 episodes when the entire show seemed to be a perfect repeat of the first 2 episodes of Alphas with some better production values and a worse theme song.

^^ What others have said. (Though unlike Brant I didn't give up. Wait, does Shield have a theme song??!)

I have however changed my mind about the concept of a half-season instead of a whole season being better to have introduced the situation in season 2. It feels that way in practice because the first eps are often written with so many headslappingly stupid moments (which to be fairly critical continues after the series gets 'good', much like Arrow) that the character-building and procedural X-files-slash-MIB-in-MCU elements felt constantly broken to me. Rather like The Dark Knight Rises or Man of Steel or Godzilla'14, which by all rights I should have loved, and badly want to respect, but the writing and plot design are SSSOOOO PAAAINNFFULLLL! Shield at least has a lot of wit and that helps.

But, I do think with the perspective of some distance that in principle the series structure did need time to establish the characters and their working relationships before the Giant Plot Drops begin kicking into gear around the halfway mark.

I also suspect the series, even as it is, plays better when the eps can be marathon'd. We original viewers had to keep waiting for 'something important to happen' or 'for things to get better', sometimes for multiple weeks between new eps, and so couldn't really be in a position to appreciate any small things being set up for positive development later.

So I'm kind of jealous of you, B_C, for getting to watch it like this.  O0 I wouldn't be surprised at all if you come out of it with a higher opinion of it than most of us did originally.

Just, you know, avoid spoiler threads like this one.  >:D But keep posting your impressions here, of course.

Yeah, I'll definitely avoid spoilers.

And watching a series I like can, in my opinion, only be done via Netflix or some other streaming video service.

I avoid network TV like the plague - for one, I cannot stand commercials. They're so painfully ignorant and terrible in 99% of cases and their awfulness just pisses me off, like waving a sheet in front of a bull. For two, I can't dedicate myself to watching something on a weekly basis, because I will get busy and completely forget about it.

Quote from: Banzai_Cat on November 21, 2014, 09:23:00 AM
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I avoid network TV like the plague - for one, I cannot stand commercials. They're so painfully ignorant and terrible in 99% of cases and their awfulness just pisses me off, like waving a sheet in front of a bull. For two, I can't dedicate myself to watching something on a weekly basis, because I will get busy and completely forget about it.

Both of those reasons are why I PVR everything.....

Quote from: JasonPratt on November 21, 2014, 09:05:52 AM
I also suspect the series, even as it is, plays better when the eps can be marathon'd. We original viewers had to keep waiting for 'something important to happen' or 'for things to get better', sometimes for multiple weeks between new eps, and so couldn't really be in a position to appreciate any small things being set up for positive development later.

I also suspect this is the case and expect I will enjoy it much more during a binge rewatch.

The Kree.  But is that Attilan under old San Juan?

I'm halfway through and must say I've enjoyed every episode except one...the one where the guy was phasing in and out of reality and sabotaged some vague system to get a girl to visit him. I was WTF pretty much through that whole thing and thought it sucked compared to the rest of the series.

The episode I just watched last night ended with Skye in the hypobaric chamber after getting shot. Great cliffhanger. Glad I have Netflix so I don't have to wait a friggin' week.  ;D

Next week is the "Winter Finale". Does that mean the Season Ender or will there be Spring Finale too? There's already been a "Fall Finale". Really great show though but.... why don't they EVER just kill the bad guys so they don't keep coming back? Again and again. Like cock roaches.

Quote from: Sir Slash on December 03, 2014, 11:11:23 AM
why don't they EVER just kill the bad guys so they don't keep coming back?

You do realize the show is based on comic books right? :P

Exactly. Marvel resurrects characters more often than the tale of Jesus waking up behind a rock has been told.

True death in the Marvel universe only happens in issues of 'What If?'

Yeah, when you read in the script that your character just got killed, you don't put your house up for sell. Hell, Colson came back.

Actually, I've found the recent spate of comic shows and movies to kill off villains pretty often compared to the comics.  ???

Anyway BC, if you've gotten that far in Season 1, you're practically over the hump. Rejoice! It gets increasingly good from this point onward.

I finally watched Thor: Dark World last week and was surprised they killed off Loki, but I'll hardly be surprised when he shows up in a future movie.

Yeah...umm he's not really dead and he's taken over the throne of Asgard ;)

Always watch past the credits. Always.

Oh sweet Jesus. I'm so glad they're finally making awesome comic book movies!

Yeah, I watched it again over the weekend and there are very subtle clues if you watch closely that the Asgard soldier is replaced by Loki when he arrives on the Dark World and when he's speaking to Odin. I guess the All-Father doesn't catch everything.

Yeah, I saw that bit. Guess Odin is dead, eh?

There's such a huge build up you can sense coming in not just all the new upcoming Marvel movies, but in the upcoming sequels as well, which seem to point to some massive cataclysmic end-all, be-all trilogy of awesomeness. But once the movie studios shoot that wad, what's going to happen then? I imagine they'll avoid the end-all be-all in favor of just continuing to churn out massive CGI-battle-fests that rake in billions...I can't imagine they'd shoot this cash cow and end it all.

Watched the next Agents of SHIELD episode last night, where he finds the dead Kree (I'm guessing he's a Kree anyway) when trying to get that GH325 stuff. As you guys have said, this is getting better and better with each episode.

There's also a hugely unsubtle clue (even before the end credits, if I recall correctly? -- it's very much a 'final scene'), where Odin and Thor are talking as Thor is refusing the throne and leaving -- and after he's gone, Loki decloaks a moment to gloat on the throne.

Quote from: Banzai_Cat on December 04, 2014, 08:36:34 AM
Watched the next Agents of SHIELD episode last night, where he finds the dead Kree (I'm guessing he's a Kree anyway) when trying to get that GH325 stuff. As you guys have said, this is getting better and better with each episode.

It won't be much of a spoiler to confirm that's a Kree -- they outright confirmed it verbally this week in-show.

I think the Kree are the only aliens they've dealt with thus far in the movies, and it's been a while since I saw the first Avengers movie. Also the episode where they used the helmet that was killing the firefighters (that episode was weaksauce too, but better than that stupid lonely hearts one). I like that they're tying in the movies to the show.

And now with the appearance of Lorelei...

I know you guys already watched all of S1 so you know what's up, but yeah I'm enjoying this ride. I wish that I had time to watch all of the remaining episodes but at the same time I'm glad I don't because I don't want to rush through all of this.

Quote from: Banzai_Cat on December 04, 2014, 08:46:54 AM
I think the Kree are the only aliens they've dealt with thus far in the movies, and it's been a while since I saw the first Avengers movie. Also the episode where they used the helmet that was killing the firefighters (that episode was weaksauce too, but better than that stupid lonely hearts one). I like that they're tying in the movies to the show.

No, those were the Chitauri, the Ultimate-Skrulls-until-the-real-Ultimate-Skrulls-arrived. Apparently chosen due to (1) not having their rights attached to other properties Marvel sold off to other studios, and (2) their chin resemblance to Thanos.

The Chitauri are plot-checked occasionally in Season 1, but eventually disappear as references.

Guardians was the first clear appearance of the Kree in the MCU (after Shield's body-half in the tube), along with several other galactic races. Some other races with blue skins are name-checked along with the Kree in the Shield Lorelei ep, however.

Quote from: Banzai_Cat on December 04, 2014, 08:46:54 AMAnd now with the appearance of Lorelei...

Prepare thyself: everything after this is one long season finale string if I recall correctly. You've seen Winter Soldier, right? If not, I'm trying to remember where you should slot that in, because unlike the Thor tie-in it's hugely important to the subsequent shape of the show...

Okay, "Yes Men" was the Lori ep; after the next one "The End of the Beginning" you should stop and watch Winter Soldier if you haven't done that already. "Turn turn turn" takes place during and after WS.

Yep, everything after the Lorelei episode ties-in to WS and it's when the show kicks into high gear.

I've seen Winter Soldier, but I could stand to watch it again.

The "End of the Beginning" episode comes before "Turn, Turn, Turn" - haven't seen End of the Beginning yet, just finished the Loralei episode last night. :)

Just watched "Turn, Turn, Turn," and ho-lee crap.  O0

I saw the ending coming but only in the five seconds or so before it happened.

The chick on chick fights in Season 2 have been excellent.

Yeah, but needs more clothing being ripped off. I know it's in Prime Time.

Four episodes to go to finish Season 1. I am pretty surprised at some of the turns this keeps taking. They certainly got their hooks into me, as I'm wondering how the hell this mess is going to unravel and knit back together.

Unraveling continues. Minor knitting-together begins Season 2. Agent Mae stays Hot throughout.

Quote from: Sir Slash on December 10, 2014, 08:48:44 AM
Agent Mae stays Hot throughout.

:smitten: :smitten: :smitten:

In fact, there is even more Agent May than before. In a way.  :D

(That part of the plotline bothers me, partly because it's horrible and ought to bother me, and partly because it doesn't seem to be bothering the characters as much as it ought to. I guess they have so much to deal with it's just one more terrible thing, but still. Those who have watched up to now will know what I'm talking about, no spoilers for B_C.)

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^cool!

No giant rat yet this season so far, though. ;) (OR IS THERE?! Or does this metaphorically represent Season 1?  >:D )

Quote from: JasonPratt on December 10, 2014, 03:13:54 PM
No giant rat yet this season so far, though. ;) (OR IS THERE?! Or does this metaphorically represent Season 1?  >:D )

I dunno...after last night's episode there might well be a giant Rat on the loose....  ;)

But they won't be back until March. That'll give Colson time to heal up from the beat-down he got.

Quote from: Barthheart on December 10, 2014, 03:40:03 PM

Quote from: JasonPratt on December 10, 2014, 03:13:54 PM
No giant rat yet this season so far, though. ;) (OR IS THERE?! Or does this metaphorically represent Season 1?  >:D )

I dunno...after last night's episode there might well be a giant Rat on the loose....  ;)

Heh. True dat. That person's expression when being shot was just priceless.  :2funny:

So, everyone !!WHO ISN'T B_C SCROLL DOWN THE PAGE NOW!!, we can be sure who "Skye" and her father are supposed to be now.

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She's Daisy Johnson (though probably not named Johnson anymore, since in the comics her mom isn't Chinese, though props to the writers for doing that since the actress herself has a Chinese mother), aka Quake, one of the two dark-haired pixie-ish women to temporarily run Shield in Fury's absence (also the first one, although Maria Hill has done it more often and even before the Avengers movie was more established in that role). That means we can probably expect her to get a pixie-cut like Maria Hill eventually, and more probably inherit running Shield from Coulson.

There has been a running joke on the internet in various places that her Dad was actually supposed to be Kyle MacLachlan just being his usual creepy-weird psychotic self (or maybe "BoB" from Twin Peaks), so when he called himself "Cal" I Lol'd hard because he made it sound like "Kyle". But if she's Daisy/Quake (as the earthquake pretty much confirmed), and her father is a vicious crazy super-strong murderer named "Cal", then he's... well I don't recall his last name (not Jekyll) but he's a supervillain who likes to call himself Mr. Hyde. Probably pre-Hyde right now.

The eyeless guy at the end could be one of two Inhumans (and the terrigen mists, though not called that, 100% confirmed we're setting up the Inhumans as the MCU's mutants now), both of whom are super-weird. One whose name I can't recall can push eye-tentacles out of his head. The other, known as The Reader, was blinded by the other Inhumans for being able to create reality out of what he reads. That seems waaaayyy too far out for the relatively grounded Kree super-science explanation of the Inhumans, though on the other hand he can't use his power anymore so that would be cynically appropriate for a TV show budget ;), so I feel safe guessing it's the former guy.

I am not even slightly happy about X being sacrificed to the plot (in case B_C was unable to keep from reading this), but I could see the writers struggling to give all the characters (especially the two 'token black guy' characters) something to do, so this will simplify their lives I guess. There was literally no reason to kill this character, though, other than for mid-season dramatic effect, and to keep viewers who weren't paying enough attention and who don't have access to the internet (all three of them  ::) :P ) thinking the mists will kill normal humans (when actually a remaining shard from the protective coating is what killed this person). So this person was sacrificed for an attempt at suspense later which almost every viewer will know is false.  :uglystupid2: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: The only way I would accept that as a plot development is if, since it's impossible (due to the circumstances) for the characters on the show to know now how exactly X died, they think this confirms the mists are dangerous to normal humans, and then something something something worth pulling dramatically out of that (technical) dramatic irony.

More subtly, I noticed that the show confirmed, via "The Inhuman Sentinel" (for want of a better description), that Coulsen doesn't count as an Inhuman, and so maybe/probably won't be affected by any mist releases. I was going to complain about how this doesn't fit what we were told earlier about him and Skye, but in a subtle way it does: regular humans brought back by the Kree blood went crazy, but Skye didn't. This does suggest, though I probably should have realized this by now in hindsight already, that PERSON Y FROM LAST SEASON who started getting cosmic superpowers must have been an Inhuman -- that person was already kind of crazy, so the result just amplified it.

I think I can see the long/endgame here now, too. We aren't getting an Inhuman movie for several years more than I frankly expect the series to last, but I strongly suspect the plan now is to start releasing terrigen mists in a 'soft' version of the Earth X plotline, and the 'usual' Inhumans will be drawn by this back from their base on the moon eventually. This should amp up the Shield series for a while, and help explain the survival of some Cap villains, too, like Baron Von Strucker (who in the Ultimate Marvel continuity was the father of the Maximov twins, not Magneto, thus nicely explaining their existence in the MCU for the upcoming Av2 movie and afterward.)

We could even, dare I hope with Doctor Strange on the way (and now confirmed with Bene-batch as the actor), get DRACULA AND HIS MOONBASE!! -- he could be an Inhuman affected by the mists long ago!

Meanwhile, what spiky cat-person will Z turn out to be? Someone new? I can't think of anyone in canon whom this would be plausible, unless they've decided to make an established cat-person spiky.

Will Cal turn himself into Mr. Hyde to try to catch up with his daughter? That seems likely. Did he ever touch the mist-crystal container and live? -- I can't remember, but I get the impression he himself isn't an activated Inhuman yet, and maybe not at all. Though I'm guessing much as in the Earth X storyline, pretty much all human superpowers will end up being connected to Celestial manipulation in prehistory (maybe even for the same reason as in that story: protecting a baby Celestial gestating in the Earth's core, though not from Galactus anymore who eats baby Celestials, since he's over at Fox Studios for now), some of which are/were unlocked thanks to Kree experiments (thus the 'Inhumans' proper).


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Damn Pratt. You sure know your Marvel. You're not really Stan Lee in another life are you?

Ok, I just finished the last two episodes of Season 1 last night. Now I need to find a reliable online source for Season 2 since they're not on Netflix.

ABC might stream them free with a few ads.

Looks like they only do the most recent 5 episodes :/

^^ Argh to that.

On the other hand, there's a decent chance they'll be running repeats of the season until Agent Carter and then afterward until the series returns in March, so DVR that puppy pronto, B_C!

Or you could buy them off Amazon for two or three dollars each (depending on HD). Not on Prime yet unfortunately.

All of the Season 2 episodes are available online for streaming, but I won't go into details :P

Nah, I know places on the Interwebs where the light barely shines that you can watch just about anything for free, even first-run movies that just opened in theatres. I try not to do that as it ruins the experience with movies (though I've admitted more than once I can't stand the movie-going experience now thanks to sh!t advertising) but for TV shows I have zero problem with it, if it means I can (a) avoid commercials and (b) get to watch something I like several episodes in a row. Quality tends to be hit-or-miss so I tend to just stick with Netflix.

At times Netflix streaming quality is worse than some of those other sites. Stupid ISP throttling!  >:(

Drea DeMatteo is coming to Agents!  She will play a villain in a guest starring role:


http://news.yahoo.com/agents-h-e-l-d-190200405.html;_ylt=AwrBT9VsUN1U9jgARmBXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--

That's funny because she always looked like Catwoman in the Batman TV show to me.

A good SOA actress.

Thank goodness it wasn't 'CCH Pounder.' That woman/linebacker/porn name hybrid of a person annoys the hell out of me for some reason.

So Agent Carter finished-up last night and it was a pretty good series if you missed it. Now ABC's advertising the return of Agents of Shield next week as, The Women of Shield. I wonder if that means Colson won't be along. I can't imagine watching without him. Hope they don't change him into Ms. Colson. :o

If it means May will be fighting other chicks, I'm good with it.

Quote from: Sir Slash on February 25, 2015, 10:47:16 AMSo Agent Carter finished-up last night and it was a pretty good series if you missed it.

I binge-watched it this weekend and was pleasantly surprised.  I'd set up a season pass if they bring it back

I'd chip-in on that keg myself. I actually loved looking at all the old cars in the show. I don't know how women can karate fight in tight skirts though.

Quote from: Sir Slash on February 25, 2015, 07:38:52 PM
I'd chip-in on that keg myself. I actually loved looking at all the old cars in the show. I don't know how women can karate fight in tight skirts though.

Spandex is your friend.  :coolsmiley:

I'm sure the Women of Shield promo is just that, a promotion aimed at a demographic they're hoping will carry back over from the Agent Carter prequel. It makes sense, and given the female talent on the show is legitimately justifiable, but it doesn't mean any of the guys will be going anywhere.

(Though considering that in the comics a particular character on the show once became the head of Shield, it seems likely the end game is for Agent Coulsen to die or pass the reins.)

Meanwhile, over at the Distinguished Competition... (do we have an Arrow/Flash thread??)

Maybe I shouldn't have been surprised that "Arrow" took the plot even farther into Batman territory, but I was legitimately surprised. Given some of the discussion about Nyssa's tensions with her dad over her love of Sarah (nicknamed "Talia" in the show, which frankly is edging into creepy territory since in the comics they're sisters -- amusingly Caty Loitz guest-starred as the voice-over lead-out this week, using the Talia name of her character), I'd bet a Coke Ra's will be trying to get Ollie to marry her soon! Thus further strengthenin the plot-from-Batman parallels.

Also, I wonder if the writers have any plans for A.T.O.M to ever be more than an Iron Man via Blue Beetle stand-in. (Ted Kord had been briefly established back in the first or early second season, but somehow the producers didn't get the rights to use him further, so they replaced him with the Atom, Ray Palmer.)

Adama's Here!!! And he still looks constipated!  O0

 :P

The first time he says, "So say we all".....

Or "Frakkin toasters".

"Gorram" did it for me. I find myself saying that often without realizing it.

As long as he isn't running down a cruddy New York City beach naked, pretending to be a wolf.


....oh, you think I'm joking? No. No, that happened. In an otherwise pretty good movie, too.

(I shall spare you, and myself, looking for a YT video as evidence.)


But seriously, Olmos as leader of alt-Shield? I'm in for that.

I'm not betting that "Real SHIELD" is SHIELD at all.

These people are SHAME-less. The plot line for the last couple of episodes and big climax tonight turned out to be a stealth advertisement for Avengers 2. I'm kind of surprised there wasn't a talking raccoon in it as well. If every film and TV show is an ad for the next film or show, then when will we ever get to see the REAL story?  :coolsmiley:

Welcome to the brave new world of Disney ownership. Just wait until they team up Rocket Racoon and Chewbacca.

Quote from: mirth on April 29, 2015, 09:27:43 AM
Welcome to the brave new world of Disney ownership. Just wait until they team up Rocket Racoon and Chewbacca.

I'd give them my money to see that movie.

Lol. I would too.

I have my wallet in my hand! <and that's no euphemism!>

How about Chewbaca vs Groot live on Pay-Per-View? "I am Groot. With Wookie boot in ass".

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I think Groot has a Woody in that last picture.  :2funny:

Quote from: Sir Slash on April 28, 2015, 10:14:44 PM
These people are SHAME-less. The plot line for the last couple of episodes and big climax tonight turned out to be a stealth advertisement for Avengers 2. I'm kind of surprised there wasn't a talking raccoon in it as well. If every film and TV show is an ad for the next film or show, then when will we ever get to see the REAL story?  :coolsmiley:

So I just watched the episode and I see it less as shameless promotion, and more of a cool tie-in; linking the movie & TV universes together in a timely way.  Then again, I am a fanboy, so....

Tonight's episode was post-Ultron. And now we know where the flying Aircraft Carrier came from. Next week Colson finds Nick Fury's missing eye.  ;D

Just received an email that Season 2 is now on Netflix.  O0

^Sweet! Thanks for the heads up.

So binged watch the final 14 episodes or so of S2 this weekend. Give it a B+ overall. The chick-on-chick fight scenes were A+.

I'm having a hard time getting through it. It's not as good as the first season.  :-\

It has it slow spots and it felt like they stretched a number of episodes at the end just to fill out a 22 ep season. That said, I felt the same thing happened in S1. The pay off at the end of the second season was not nearly as exciting or satisfying as the end of S1.

I will give major props to Kyle McLachlan. He was consistently awesome all season. He pretty much owned every scene he was in.

And Ward has become one of the most interesting characters on the show.

I thought the pacing was overall much better for Season Two. Some of the plot stupidities remained, but overall a tighter and more Marvel-ous show.

Quote from: JasonPratt on June 30, 2015, 11:31:06 AM
I thought the pacing was overall much better for Season Two. Some of the plot stupidities remained, but overall a tighter and more Marvel-ous show.

I tend to agree. It was tighter overall, more of a continuous arc. It's still not a 'great' show, but it has enough great moments to keep me watching. The chick fights don't hurt either.

Fun trivia: the woman who played the red-haired multi-body ninja in the season finale, was also the stunt double for Mockingbird during the series (though the actress also did as much of her own work as possible). The crew (and the actress, whose name I kind of hate not being able to recall, argh) were so appreciative they wrote her a special part for the finale.  :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:

Where she naturally also got to fight a lot as Mockingbird.  >:D I recall one of the recap sites summarizing that finale as "A lot of people fight a lot of other people, but the unlucky ones get to fight Mockingbird."

Season 3 promo pic

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Almost done with Season 2. This show loves its girl-on-girl fights, doesn't it?  8)

Quote from: Banzai_Cat on July 08, 2015, 09:56:28 AM
Almost done with Season 2. This show loves its girl-on-girl fights, doesn't it?  8)

They never get old ;)

It knows its audiences.

In fact, when it came back from the 3/4 season break for the final stretch (after Av2), it HEAVILY PROMOTED the ass-kicking women as its major draw.

I fully support this  O0

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/marvel-mockingbird-series-starring-adrianne-palicki-lands-abc-225009860.html (https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/marvel-mockingbird-series-starring-adrianne-palicki-lands-abc-225009860.html)

Quote from: mirth on August 20, 2015, 08:13:53 PM
I fully support this  O0

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/marvel-mockingbird-series-starring-adrianne-palicki-lands-abc-225009860.html (https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/marvel-mockingbird-series-starring-adrianne-palicki-lands-abc-225009860.html)

QuoteBut with "SHIELD" coming back for Season 3, in addition to "Agent Carter" returning for Season 2, there's still a large Marvel appetite at ABC.

O0

Yeah, I'd been disappointed to hear the pilot wasn't picked up -- and then now it is! :D Wonder what changed... possibly the producers aren't worried anymore about her and Hunter sucking all the charisma and most of the entertaining romantic dramady out of the show when they spin off.

Anyone watching Season 3? It's pretty good, imho. I like the addition of Constance Zimmer to the cast and the Fitz/Simmons story arc has been interesting. May is still a badass.

Still not a truly great show, but good enough to hold my interest.

I'm still in but liking it a little less with the whole, "Inhumans" story angle now. But the re-building Hydra story line might get exciting. The show kind of feels like an advertisement for the movies sometimes.

Quote from: Sir Slash on November 03, 2015, 11:39:01 AM
The show kind of feels like an advertisement for the movies sometimes.

Agreed. It's always had that element to it and it undermines the show.

I'm not to keen on the Inhumans stuff either. I really just don't care much, but Marvel needs to build the Inhumans as the MCU's mutants, since FOX owns the rights to all things mutant related.

Also agreed, the rebuilding HYDRA story has much more potential.

Yeah I'm watching it.  I had great hope for the Inhumans, but so far it's been ho-hum.  I'm hoping that it really takes off soon, just like other seasons.

They really manage to take the "super" out of the superhero stuff.

The show needs to get back to what it does best - chick fights.

And it looks like somebody had the same idea  :smitten:

I'm ready alright. Oh, I am VERY ready. For the show too I mean.

I am not disappointed so far with Season 3, aside from the occasional lapses into plot stupidity again. "I have a plan! Let's go after a Hydra agent who I may have gunfought in the past and who was the shagboy of my current partner for a while, by infiltrating his organization to get close to him for assassination!"

I haven't watched the latest ep yet, but this plan deserves so much catastrophic failure on so many levels.

Quote from: JasonPratt on November 04, 2015, 04:37:43 PM
"I have a plan! Let's go after a Hydra agent who I may have gunfought in the past and who was the shagboy of my current partner for a while, by infiltrating his organization to get close to him for assassination!"

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I forgot I was actually three eps behind; but I got to see the horrible plan predictably fail in its horribleness. And then not-Thanos repeatedly teased on the blue planet. (Not a euphamism.) (Probably also a euphamism.)

So I'm only one ep behind now. Mockingbird returns to duty next. Also, I'll get to see how long they're going to tease over whether X got assassinated, or turned into a mutant inhuman (TM) and kicked unexpected butt.

They don't tease it for long.

No, not long at all.

Like the direction that Agents of SHIELD is taking re: Hydra.

Yeah me too. I guess Powers Booth's character is the same one he was playing in Avengers #1?

Ok. Watched the latest episode. I like how they are tying some of the season's previous story arcs together.

Ward is a very good bad guy. I'm glad they are getting him back into the story line.

And I saw a commercial for Agent Carter coming back in January.  :D

Quote from: Sir Slash on November 19, 2015, 10:41:19 AM
Yeah me too. I guess Powers Booth's character is the same one he was playing in Avengers #1?

That's how they were promoting his inclusion in marketing. Also explains why he wasn't in Winter Soldier during the coup, I guess.

Looks like the Mockingbird spinoff is definitely getting a pilot

http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/11/10748196/marvels-most-wanted-pilot

I'll give a watch or two. Three if there's hot girl-on-girl action.  :P

I like those two characters a lot, but I'm of mixed feelings about spinning them off. I'd rather the series be about them! -- but the main series has gotten a lot better, and yet I'm not thrilled about having two series of 'this' sort, and anyway a significant amount of the improvement came from introducing Bobbi and Hunter.

Ideally I suppose I'd prefer a couple of TV movies a year.

Meanwhile... so I suppose I'm not surprised that, despite the teases in terminology, the thing on the blue planet wasn't Thanos (who after all is VERY VERY OBVIOUSLY comic-book Thanos). I don't recall what if anything in canon the Cthuluistic demon thing is supposed to be; but I love that they're going the distance in tying Hydra to a quasi-Cthulhu, and moreso how Maveth or whatever will be factoring into the plot next half-season.

(May be worth noting that the folks at TVWiki, who are generally well informed, think of the planet as being Maveth, not the entity, which they only call It. So I probably shouldn't think in terms of using "Maveth" in trying to figure out if this is a new character or an obscure comic-canon, or a re-imagined canon character.)

I honestly kind of worry, with this level of ramp-up, how the resolution could not be disappointing, and where the show would even be able to go from here after this season.