Sniper Elite v3 - Afrika Korp!

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Jarhead0331

Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on June 26, 2014, 09:14:18 AM
Bastards!  I have to work all weekend.  How am I supposed to work knowing that there are a bunch of unshot nazis lurking on my PC?

I've got your back while you're at work. No worries.
Grogheads Uber Alles
Semper Grog
"No beast is more alpha than JH." Gusington, 10/23/18


Grim.Reaper


Grim.Reaper

All loaded up....just 19 hours until release....

Grim.Reaper


Grim.Reaper

Sniper 3 released early and ready for playing!!!!!!!

Gosh darn it that I have to work today.....can't wait until tonight.

Grim.Reaper

Kind of interesting they already have 3 additional dlc available for purchases on day one....mostly looks like extra weapons and stuff....I am sure I will get sucked in for it at some point to support them.  They also have a season pass option that I might consider too since I know I likely will buy all new dlc:)

Grim.Reaper

Got a few minutes of play in before leaving for work......kill cam is back in all its glory!   Even a little slower so you can really FEEL the bullets penetrate.

Not enough played to really comment about anything else, has the same feel as prior version, which is a good thing for me.....

MuzzyDev

From the Strategy Informer review: "...sniping in SE3 is one of the most schlockily addictive guilty pleasures in gaming. You will feel sort of bad when you first shoot someone through the testicle in slow motion. Then you will do it again and again."

  ;D
Chris Parsons
Product Manager, Muzzy Lane

Jarhead0331

Quote from: MuzzyDev on June 27, 2014, 11:13:18 AM
From the Strategy Informer review: "...sniping in SE3 is one of the most schlockily addictive guilty pleasures in gaming. You will feel sort of bad when you first shoot someone through the testicle in slow motion. Then you will do it again and again."

  ;D

I'm really looking forward to my first vas deferens kill shot.
Grogheads Uber Alles
Semper Grog
"No beast is more alpha than JH." Gusington, 10/23/18


Jarhead0331

Gee...I guess nothing kills a conversation like a shot to the vas deferens, eh?
Grogheads Uber Alles
Semper Grog
"No beast is more alpha than JH." Gusington, 10/23/18


Grim.Reaper

So far so good....completed a number of the first missions....but so far seems a little more run and gun than the prior version.....plus, now to pick stuff up you have to hold a key for a number of seconds versus instantly getting the stuff immediately...

Still very cool and the xray camera is more gruesome than ever:)

Grim.Reaper

Interesting saga unfolding about Rebellion revoking a lot of cd keys today....here is one of the supposed cd key stores version of the story.....no idea what the real story is but drama nonetheless...I will just continue playing my game happily:)  I do find it interesting they suggest hundreds of thousands of keys revoked, wonder how many copies this game sales?


Rebellion SCAM !!!
Read pls .


One of the biggest scams to hit the game industry is unfolding as I type this article. You may already be aware of it. Thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of Sniper Elite Steam 3 CD Keys have been Illegally revoked and de-activated, by the game's own developer, Rebellion. CJS CD Keys are lucky enough that we have not been affected by this problem. If we ever are, we will always provide customers with a full refund or a fully working key, but so far, so good. What's not okay though, is that Rebellion appears to be trying to frame innocent retailers for their own doings, but we seek to find out the truth about the goings on.

What happened?

On 27th June, thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of CD Keys for Sniper Elite 3 were revoked from customer's Steam accounts without warning and without a legitimate reason. Affected customers and indeed, the affected retailers who sold the keys, had purchased the keys legitimately, only to see the game disappear from their Steam game library.

How many retailers were affected by the problem?

The situation is currently unfolding, but it appears that over 60+ retailers have been affected by the scam. An interesting point is that the issue is not unique to companies dedicated to selling CD Keys. There are also many reports that customers who purchased from official outlets such as GreenManGaming were also affected by the scam. The only keys which were NOT revoked appear to be keys sourced from boxed copies of the game, and keys bought directly on Steam.

Why did it happen?

Immediately after the keys were banned, Rebellion tried to cover themselves by posting the following statement on the Steam Forums: (it has since been edited to suit their side of the story).

"We have been saddened to learn that some fans have been caught out by companies selling unlicensed or stolen Sniper Elite 3 Steam keys. If you have been affected by this we encourage you to contact the seller in question and seek a refund immediately."

Just a few hours ago, this statement recommended that customers get a refund from their retailer and purchase the game directly on Steam at full retail price. They have since edited this out in response to the major backlash from customers who paid in good-faith. They also added the following statement, which we believe is a white lie at best:

"As a developer Rebellion are happy for you to purchase the game anywhere you see fit and support price competition in the PC market – we have in no way targeted any specific vendors (who may have also thought these keys were legitimate), just this one set of keys."

If rebellion were happy for the games to be purchased anywhere, then why did they previously recommend that customers only buy directly on Steam? (They since removed this comment). How could 'just one set of keys' reach 60+ retailers? The affected retailers are based in countries all over the world, who buy from various distributors around the world. Some even buy directly from the relevant regional publisher, if they are a large shop with sufficient purchasing power.

Unfortunately, we find it rather hard to believe that a single set of 'stolen' keys managed to reach official distributors and publisher offices all around the world. We believe that this statement:

"As a developer Rebellion are happy for you to purchase the game anywhere you see fit"

is an absolute fabrication. We beleive Rebellion banned these keys for the exact opposite reason. While the term 'unauthorised reseller' bounces about the internet, the truth is that there is no such thing. Under the first-sale doctrine, the copyright ownership of a license key ends after the first sale (I.E from publisher to distributor). See here for full details. This means that all legal entities (even members of the public) have a legal right to re-sell their license keys as they see fit. The developer has absolutely no legal right to stop keys being re-sold. The only requirement in law for re-selling virtual software / digital goods is that the original copy of the virtual item must be destroyed once copied over to someone. (This makes more sense when considering the re-selling of a digital copy of your legally purchased music, for example). Of course, with Steam's DRM system, the key can only be used once, so deleting access to the 'original copy' is not an issue.

Unfortunately Rebellion want to encourage the public to purchase their game at the full retail price, directly from Steam, in order that they can maximise profits. We have reason to believe that the banning of keys sold outside of Steam goes against numerous antitrust, anti-competition, and anti-monopoly laws.

While many game developers (and Steam themselves) will legitimately try to encourage users to stay away from re-sellers and buy directly on Steam at the full retail price, what Rebellion has done today is absolutely immoral. They have banned legitimately purchased keys, legally owned by multiple online retailers and gamers worldwide, and covered their tracks by claiming that the keys were 'stolen'.

What can we do?

If you are a gamer and you have purchased from a retailer only to see your key revoked, we would love to hear from you in the comments section. Most retailers should give you a full refund or replacement on the key as a goodwill gesture. In the meantime the retailers affected by this scam will take it upon themselves to clear their names, claim back the money on the illegitimately revoked keys, and make sure that Rebellion are punished for this illegal and immoral act.

We (CJS CD Keys) are lucky enough that we have not been affected by this issue. If you purchase Sniper Elite 3 from CJS CD Keys you will not be affected as we have tested our keys and they are in fully working order. In addition, CJS CD Keys have a policy where customers will always receive a fully working key (forever) or a full refund, so you know you have full support if you ever did run into trouble for some reason. CJS would never deal in 'stolen' goods, and we know for a fact that many of the affected retailers also would never do such a thing. Indeed, it's quite difficult to believe that thousands of game keys were 'stolen' and magically reached numerous distributors worldwide in the space of 1 day. It's rather obvious who is the guilty party here.

We also found an interesting comment from PC Media PTE LTD, an official seller of games, similar to ourselves, which was posted on the controversial steam thread:

"Ok, this kind of thing has to stop.

I understand where Rebellion are coming from in regards to prices being too low and regional based restrictions being bypassed but this is a free internet where people have the choice to do what they like with something they just purchased.

What you are doing here is against the fair trade act 1973 and will be dealt with to the full extent possible in terms of claiming any losses and damages from Rebellion. All of our suppliers are officially licensed distributors yet you have the audacity to claim we are all fraudulent buyers and that everyone can only buy it from steam for it to be legitimate.

This is a complete fabrication and has no legal standing whatsoever. Every person or consumer has a right to purchase your game wherever they see fit of that company is buying your games legitimately and you cannot punish us or any other seller for selling your game if this is the case.

This is possibly the most underhanded tactic i have ever seen from a publisher and you deserve to be punished for it.

Regards

BuyDlPlay.Com/OnlineKeyStore.com
CEO PC Media PTE LTD"

Which retailers have been affected by the scam?

We are currently aware that over 60+ online retailers have been affected by the scam. There are numerous reports on the Steam forums of GreenManGaming customers have been affected too, so this issue is not unique to CD Key retailers. It's rather clear that Rebellion are trying to monopolise the sales of their game, while framing legitimate retailers and claiming the keys as 'stolen' to try and cover their tracks.

Silent Disapproval Robot

I'm playing with realistic ballistics and no tactical assistance and finding it much more of a challenge than the previous two games.

Grim.Reaper

Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on June 27, 2014, 11:10:32 PM
I'm playing with realistic ballistics and no tactical assistance and finding it much more of a challenge than the previous two games.

I do like the openness of the maps, not as clustered together as previous game...however, so far it seems like I am doing far less sniping and more just running and shooting to stay alive...probably me not understanding and not playing more stealthy at this time.

Jarhead0331

Would I be crazy to suggest that I think the bullet cam is actually a step back?  I've only taken head shots so far, so perhaps the vascular and tissue layers aren't as prominent, but I think the increased gore is over the top. It just looks corny. There is such a thing as too much blood.
Grogheads Uber Alles
Semper Grog
"No beast is more alpha than JH." Gusington, 10/23/18