JJ Abrams to Direct Star Wars VII

[SirAndrewD]

The sound is different and the beam isn't well contained, almost like an early, less refined form of the technology.  The cross guard is impractical, but it screams old, perhaps ancient.

That crossguard would make more sense if it were slanted forwards, like a medieval Oakeshott type 7 crossguard but at an even sharper angle.

Indeed.  As it is, it looks more likely to disembowel the user rather than defend the hand, at least if it's used in the style of other lightsabers. 

[mirth]

Lense flares aside I liked the new Treks.

I did too, but they were more Star Wars than Star Trek.  They very seriously lacked what made Star Trek, well, Star Trek.  Roddenberry would've despised them. 

Roddenberry's vision of what Star Trek should be was Star Trek The Motion Picture.  He was yanked from involvement from Wrath of Khan, other than an Executive Producer credit.

The first Trek reboot film was pretty good. Was it in the 'spirit' of classic Trek? Who knows, who cares. After suffering through Final Frontier, Generations, Insurrection, and Nemesis, I was glad for a new direction.

Into Darkness was a hot mess but it was still better than any of the films mentioned above.

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If Disney buys the rights to Star Trek...

[SirAndrewD]

Lense flares aside I liked the new Treks.

I did too, but they were more Star Wars than Star Trek.  They very seriously lacked what made Star Trek, well, Star Trek.  Roddenberry would've despised them. 

Roddenberry's vision of what Star Trek should be was Star Trek The Motion Picture.  He was yanked from involvement from Wrath of Khan, other than an Executive Producer credit.

The first Trek reboot film was pretty good. Was it in the 'spirit' of classic Trek? Who knows, who cares. After suffering through Final Frontier, Generations, Insurrection, and Nemesis, I was glad for a new direction.

Into Darkness was a hot mess but it was still better than any of the films mentioned above.

Pretty much agreed.  The three Star Trek moments that were pure Roddenberry were The Cage Pilot, Star Trek TMP and Season 1 of TNG.  None of those have ever been considered the height of Star Trek. 

Abrams did something fresh, and injected a touch of Star Wars simplicity into Star Trek.  I didn't mind it, and felt it was a nice direction to take it.

It's very clear from his directorial style Abrams is a fanboy of Lucas and Spielberg.  This is the property he always wanted, and he's not being given the reboot mandate he was given in Star Trek.  It seems in Star Wars he's trying to resurrect what came before in the original trilogy rather than reinvent the wheel. 

I think Lucas did plenty enough wheel reinvention on his own property with the Prequels.  Just like with Roddenberry and Star Trek, sometimes maybe the best thing is to take the idea from the idea man and give it to someone that can make a good story.

[bbmike]

I...uh, well....maybe Martok can come in here and explain it to you Jar Jar loving guys.  ;D

[SirAndrewD]

I...uh, well....maybe Martok can come in here and explain it to you Jar Jar loving guys.  ;D

Heh, no need to explain.  As I say, I completely understand that Abrams trek was about as far from Star Trek as Independence Day is from 2001.  I just say I like it for its own thing.

When I refer to sometimes Roddenberry's hand wasn't the best for his own creation, I am in no way saying Abrams vision was better.  I'm more crediting guys (and gals) like Gene Coon, DC Fontana, Ron Moore, Harve Bennett ect. 

[bbmike]

I've always thought that Roddenberry really didn't know what he had created with Star Trek. After TOS (heck even during from what I've read) I'm convinced he was more about making money than anything else.

[W8taminute]

After watching some of those fan made previews of the new Star Wars I'm a little hopeful now about the new movie.  This is a good thing as Lucas distorted the saga to the point where it was not only unrecognizable but also 'un-natural'. 

I believe that Abrams with reinvent the saga but in a good way.  Will it be true to the Zahn novels?  Probably not but maybe, just maybe we will see a renaissance of all things Star Wars.  Not some stupid gungan feldercarb wrapped up in ewok poo doo. 

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Ewok poo doo, well done!

Star Trek TMP was a snooze fest, except for that bit with the Klingons and Goldsmiths soundtrack.  Thank god for ST II WOK and Nicholas Meyer, and James Horner back then, otherwise we would have been forced to watch another search for god. 

Oops Shatner did that in ST V :)

The bad movies were just stuff you kind of expected in a TV episode, and by 1987 you had TNG every week ( another reason why V was lukewarm).

I liked The JJ Abrams trailer, nice to see some familiar uniforms and the Falcon. 

[JasonPratt]

I'm at least half sure I've read that part of the plot for SW7 is supposed to be about a defecting Stormtrooper helping out that girl on the sandbike. In which case we've seen the new main leads. But that might be fan guessing. 

[GDS_Starfury]

Chewbacca is going to die.

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[bbmike]

Chewbacca is going to die.

And they'll bring him back in Star Wars VIII: The Search for Wookie  :D

[GDS_Starfury]

one of the major plot twists in the comics, and I think its carried over in the books, is that Chewy dies trying to save Han and Leias kids.  it would be quite the motivator/cliff hanger for the new movies.

[Nefaro]

Lense flares aside I liked the new Treks.

Same.


And I've heard conjecture that the cross hilt on the light saber may be some kind of Exhaust ports for a slapdash homemade lightsaber.  The kind some do-it-yourself Dark Side prodigy would build with only smatterings of info they had found on how to go about it.

;)


I expect this is, after all, the re-emergence of the Sith or some Dark Side Jedi attempting to become one after their extinction.  Since it's now moving towards the New Republic period, that seemed to be the common theme from literature anyway.


The only bad thing I saw in that teaser was the ridiculous f'ing droid.