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Started by Gusington, April 27, 2015, 06:58:31 PM

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LongBlade

And a CNN anchor is blaming military vets for the violence in Baltimore  :o

QuoteWhile conducting an interview with Democratic Maryland Representative Elijiah Cummings, CNN host Brooke Baldwin questioned whether the violence in Baltimore had something to do with the amount of military veterans in the police department.

"Another thing that has to be done here, is we've really got to look at our police department," Cummings began.

"But in what sense?" Baldwin asked. "We talk about training, we talk about having officers — I was talking to the city councilman here last week. He said, 'Brooke, these people have to live in the communities... or there's a lack of emotional investment.'"

"And a lot of these young people — I've been talking about this so much. A lot of young people — and I love our nation's veterans, but some of them are coming back from war, they don't know the communities, and they are ready to do battle."

source: http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/28/cnns-brooke-baldwin-blames-military-veterans-for-baltimore-riots-video/
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BanzaiCat

Brooke is typical of teleprompter readers that are hawt but have zero content between the ears.

Gusington

Agreed on Brooke Baldwin. Shut up and smile.


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Bison

I find it humorous that anyone is surprised by what is happening in the streets or who they are attempting to divert and level the blame on.  The media and left-wing politicians have long despised the police and the military, so I'm not sure why anyone would think any different.  I'm also not sure that I agree we have a police issue in this country.  I think we have a personal accountability issue and a huge problem with portraying everyone as a victim and not responsible for their own actions problem.  I think we have an extremist left-wing problem and a whole lot of cowards who just take it because it's "the natural evolution of society."  Bullshit.  It's the forced evolution of society, but cowardly nation takes it. 

BanzaiCat

They have the mom on the morning national news right now (no idea which channel, it was on when I passed by a moment ago). Then the news, of course, showed the footage of her beating the snot out of her kid.

And then it hit me. If this was an Anglo woman beating her kid, there would be OutrageTM and AngerTM and there would be calls of her being an unfit mom and probably talk of assault charges and court/jail time. But because she's not Anglo, this makes it okay? I dunno, maybe it's just me.

LongBlade

Quote from: Bison on April 29, 2015, 07:43:42 AM
I find it humorous that anyone is surprised by what is happening in the streets or who they are attempting to divert and level the blame on.  The media and left-wing politicians have long despised the police and the military, so I'm not sure why anyone would think any different.  I'm also not sure that I agree we have a police issue in this country.  I think we have a personal accountability issue and a huge problem with portraying everyone as a victim and not responsible for their own actions problem.  I think we have an extremist left-wing problem and a whole lot of cowards who just take it because it's "the natural evolution of society."  Bullshit.  It's the forced evolution of society, but cowardly nation takes it.

There is still the small issue of discovering exactly how a guy in a paddy wagon managed to sever his spine on the way to the clink. I have heard a couple of reports on TV of "rough rides" occasionally awarded by the Baltimore cops as a bonus to the free ride downtown. There *might* be a reason to look into this.

Absolutely no excuse for violence in the streets, but let us not forget that there may be some 'splaining to do.
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Bison

I agree LB.  The young man's injuries and death need to be investigated, but I'm sure the Baltimore PD have an IG and Maryland has an Attorney general's office. They should be doing an investigation into the circumstances and have findings that determine the cause of injury and death.  If there is  malfeasance on the part of officers then proper actions to include criminal prosecution should be taken.   My issue is that police are under incredible pressure right now for political reasons and the 24 hour media are exacerbating and enflaming the angst.   Either we are a land of laws or not.  There should be a federal investigation into groups that are reportedly going from location to location and organizing and facilitating lawless and crimanls actions. 

Centurion40

Quote from: Banzai_Cat on April 29, 2015, 07:53:30 AM

And then it hit me. If this was an Anglo woman beating her kid, there would be OutrageTM and AngerTM and there would be calls of her being an unfit mom and probably talk of assault charges and court/jail time. But because she's not Anglo, this makes it okay? I dunno, maybe it's just me.

I think that any mom, thumping the bejeezus out of her rioting kid, would get a free pass.  Be they black, white, or a news reporter.
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Airborne Rifles

Quote from: Centurion40 on April 29, 2015, 08:52:13 AM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on April 29, 2015, 07:53:30 AM

And then it hit me. If this was an Anglo woman beating her kid, there would be OutrageTM and AngerTM and there would be calls of her being an unfit mom and probably talk of assault charges and court/jail time. But because she's not Anglo, this makes it okay? I dunno, maybe it's just me.

I think that any mom, thumping the bejeezus out of her rioting kid, would get a free pass.  Be they black, white, or a news reporter.

I would like to think this as well.

BanzaiCat

^ Me, three. But I'm talking full-on beat-down mode, like she was in.

I'm not saying the kid didn't deserve it...he was suffering much more embarrassment than he was injury. Or that ANY kid doesn't deserve it...they sure as hell would. I just wondered if there's a perceived difference, there.

Swatter

There is going to be police department malfeasance until the end of time, its human nature. Its a tough job that takes its toll over time. There is no perfect end state to shoot for, until police are replaced by unemotional robots. The notion of rioting or making national stories out of isolated cases is absurd, because they will never end. You can only prosecute the police who cross the line between law enforcer and criminal. In addition, it is clear that nothing useful was learned by govt officials from the Ferguson riots.

The greatest concern of mine is that there is no end-game here. The core issue here is not the police (policing is merely symptom), but the cultural disintegration, chronic poverty, and epidemic violence that grips poor black communities. As long as this "Black Lives Matter" movement remains a politically correct movement about police, nothing will change. As a matter of fact, things will only get worse. I don't need to drive down to Ferguson to know this community (which was already on pace to becoming a ghetto) is being fast tracked to ghetto status. In ten years, Ferguson will be just another war zone in north St. Louis County, full of drugs and bombed out buildings and the "normal" black murders.

I am still drawn back to that grandmother in North County that was gunned down in gang crossfire while walking her grandchildren down the street, just one week before Mike Brown committed robbery and picked a fight with a cop.

OJsDad

Swatter, there has been over $22 Trillion spend since the '60 in the US to fight poverty.  But it hasn't put a dent in it.  It hasn't been a lack of money but the disintegration of culture, ethics and the family structure that needs to be fixed.
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bayonetbrant

Quote from: OJsDad on April 29, 2015, 05:01:24 PM
Swatter, there has been over $22 Trillion spend since the '60 in the US to fight poverty.  But it hasn't put a dent in it.  It hasn't been a lack of money but the disintegration of culture, ethics and the family structure that needs to be fixed.

Well, Daniel Patrick Moynihan (a Democrat, no less) noted in 1965

QuoteThe steady expansion of welfare programs can be taken as a measure of the steady disintegration of the Negro family structure over the past generation in the United States.
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bbmike

Quote from: OJsDad on April 29, 2015, 05:01:24 PM
Swatter, there has been over $22 Trillion spend since the '60 in the US to fight poverty.  But it hasn't put a dent in it.  It hasn't been a lack of money but the disintegration of culture, ethics and the family structure that needs to be fixed.

Exactly. Couldn't agree more.
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Gusington

^How the hell do you fix a disintegration of culture, ethics and family structure that's been going on for 50+ years??


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