Huge Matrix sale on Steam

[Toonces]

I hate to ask this, as I know it's been asked is some capacity before, but:...

What is the major difference between Civil War 1 and 2?  I have 1, and spent some time with it and liked it, but I'm not an expert at it.  Maybe 10 hours total.

I just wonder if the upgrade to CW2 is worth it for $20.  Like, am I getting anything additional for the investment, and (if so) what?

I'm sure it's something, but just trying to justify the cost/benefit.

[jomni]

I dont know, I play the grigsby games a lot. So going to DC after that, maybe I ruined it for me a little bit?

Calling the DC games "beer and pretzels" is a little unfair, I think. Yes, they're not as hard-core as the Grigsby game, but they have a lot of fine-grained historical detail -- much more than games like Panzercorps or Battle Academy, which are true beer & pretzels (which I don't mean as a knock against them -- they do what they do very well).

To me, the DC games hit a sweet spot between Beer & Pretzels on the one hand, and overly complex grogginess, a la War in the Pacific: AE.  Just my opinion, but I've found DC Case Blue infinitely more engaging than the dour, drab, lifeless GG War in the East.... (WitP:AE I do love, although I think the grand campaign is essentially unplayable).

DC removed the logistics micromanagement of Advanced Tactics. I kinda liked this feature.

[-budd-]

Crap, Brother vs Brother was the one I really wanted.   :-\

Does anybody recommend Sovereignty?

Surprised brother VS brother isnt in there also. Sovereignty battles are a lot of fun, the rest needs beefed up i.e. trade, diplomacy, overall economy.Playing as smaller realms was a lot of hitting end turn. I haven't played since the engine switch but have been following and it doesnt seem like a lot has been added yet, but the game has great potential. I would think someone with an interest in WITE would jump at the whole package for $53.00 , I've never played the main campaign but there's plenty of smaller scenarios and its easy to jump in and play. Since brother vs brother isnt on sale the only one that peaks my interest is Legions of steel, anybody have any opinions on the game.

[Cyrano]

I am, again, for the whatever time this amounts to, punished for being unable to resist these things when first released...

Ah, well, I have had the joy of them.

And DC is desert-island stuff for me.  Interestingly enough, Advanced Tactics: Gold has not aged as well by my lights...not the biggest fan of the faux-resource stuff, I guess...but the historical stuff is seminal.

[FarAway Sooner]

Sovereignty is on my list but (as others have said) the game's not quite finished yet. 

I'm looking for a game with a good persisting campaign where I can play as the Americans if I want to.  War in the West would scratch that itch, but it's not for sale on Steam.  Heroes of Normandie is a more light-hearted version of that, but it sounds like a key mechanic of the game still hasn't been released (cards) and getting that functionality right sounds like a huge thing.

DC does look very intriguing, but after numerous hours of Unity of Command I'm feeling a bit of Eastern Front Fatigue. 

What to do, what to do...   

[Nefaro]

Would get the ageod games, but the engine makes me cry. Decisive campaigns, order or battle and panzer generals are a littletoo beer and pretzels for me.

Maybe that starhammer game...

Decisive Campaigns "is too beer and pretzels" for you?!?  :o

... yet the AGE games are too much to deal with?

This is an odd situation.  ;D

[Bison]

DC does look very intriguing, but after numerous hours of Unity of Command I'm feeling a bit of Eastern Front Fatigue. 

What to do, what to do...   

Get DC: Warsaw to Paris and spend some time executing your blitzkrieg across France and Poland or trying to stop the blitzkrieg momentum. 

[Cyrano]

Oh, and the cards for HoN have entered BETA.  At least the first 31 of them.

Given the price, this moves this particular game into a no-brainer purchase for me.  I'll borrow Tom Vasel's line and say it's SL for those that can't quite abide SL.

[Hofstadter]

Would get the ageod games, but the engine makes me cry. Decisive campaigns, order or battle and panzer generals are a littletoo beer and pretzels for me.

Maybe that starhammer game...

Decisive Campaigns "is too beer and pretzels" for you?!?  :o

... yet the AGE games are too much to deal with?

This is an odd situation.  ;D

Its the engine that makes me cry, its crashy, its buggy, its slow, its ugly and horrible to use. They have all the functions there but that engine is just....horrifying beyond comprehension

[Bison]

Ugly is not a word I'd personally use to describe an Ageod game.  :)

[FarAway Sooner]

Damn you all!  Now, suddenly Heroes of Normandie looks pretty playable and Civil War 2 looks like exactly what I was looking for... in a WW II game!  Which to buy, which to buy...

[Raied]

I am torn between getting Flashpoint Campaigns and DC: Case Blue

[bbmike]

Damn you all!  Now, suddenly Heroes of Normandie looks pretty playable and Civil War 2 looks like exactly what I was looking for... in a WW II game!  Which to buy, which to buy...

This is Grogheads! Buy both!  :D

[FarAway Sooner]

Damn you all!  Now, suddenly Heroes of Normandie looks pretty playable and Civil War 2 looks like exactly what I was looking for... in a WW II game!  Which to buy, which to buy...

This is Grogheads! Buy both!  :D

Would have been much easier to justify to the wifey before I began my period of voluntary funemployment!!   8)

[Dammit Carl!]

[Shakes fist at Matrix]

Oh no you won't!  No more money from me!

[Waits for Tigers on the Hunt to drop tomorrow]