Israel vs Iran kicks off 6-12-25 (CST)

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JudgeDredd

Quote from: W8taminute on June 14, 2025, 08:08:45 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 13, 2025, 05:12:37 AMWhat other motivation could Israel possibly have other than having no choice?

The leadership in Iran (or Persia) has publicly stated for years that their goal is the utter destruction of Israel.  A nuclear armed Iran cannot be tolerated. (From Israel's point of view)

For years Israel has been trying to warn the world community of the dangers of Iran having nuclear weapons but no one seems to care.  Or if they are concerned they ignore it because of some unexplained anti-Israel feelings. 

The following is from a Google AI search regarding the Jeremiah 49 prophecy:

Jeremiah 49 contains prophecies against several nations, including Ammon, Edom, Damascus, Kedar and Hazor, and Elam. These prophecies foretell the downfall of these nations due to their sins and defiance against God.
Here's a breakdown of the prophecies in Jeremiah 49:

1. Against Ammon (Jeremiah 49:1-6):
God questions the Ammonites about their land-grabbing practices against Israel.
He prophesies that Rabbah, the capital of Ammon, will be destroyed and become a desolate heap, and the Ammonites will be driven out.
God promises that Israel will regain possession of the land taken by the Ammonites.

2. Against Edom (Jeremiah 49:7-22):
God expresses his anger against Edom for their pride and arrogance, even though they lived in a high mountain fortress.
He foretells the calamity of Edom, promising their downfall and destruction.
The prophecy includes imagery of Edom being an object of horror and scorn, and its cities being left desolate.

3. Against Damascus (Jeremiah 49:23-27):
God declares that Damascus will be devastated, its young men will fall, and its warriors will be silenced.
He prophesies the destruction of the city's walls and the palaces of Ben-hadad.

4. Against Kedar and Hazor (Jeremiah 49:28-33):
These tribes of the eastern desert are foretold to be attacked by Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon and scattered to the four winds.
Their territory will become a wasteland, and only jackals and wild animals will inhabit it.

5. Against Elam (Jeremiah 49:34-39):
God declares that he will break the bow of Elam, their main weapon of strength.
He will bring disaster upon them and scatter their people.
However, the prophecy also includes a promise of restoration and the return of Elam's captives.

In essence, Jeremiah 49 highlights God's justice and his ultimate control over nations, both in their destruction and in their potential restoration. The prophecies serve as a warning to those who defy God and as a promise of hope for those who are faithful.

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The text highlighted in blue is of particular interest to me as I believe we are beginning to witness the start of this prophecy. 

I'm not saying "thus sayeth the Lord" but I sure do find these headlines in the news today as fascinating.

Note: Elam is the ancient name for a region in Persia or modern day Iran.  The Busheir nuclear plant is located in Elam.

For a peace loving person, God certainly comes across as very angry  :HideEyes:
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Jarhead0331

#16
Nice discussion on the impact of the attacks to date and the possibility (or lack thereof) that any F-35I aircraft have been downed as Iran is claiming.

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Redwolf

Realistically you should expect to lose planes when you run large scale attacks like that.

Jarhead0331

Quote from: Redwolf on June 16, 2025, 04:26:54 PMRealistically you should expect to lose planes when you run large scale attacks like that.

Not to Iranian fire when you're flying F-35s.
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Jarhead0331

Noooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!! For the love of God, spare the Tomcats!

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Redwolf

Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 16, 2025, 04:32:48 PM
Quote from: Redwolf on June 16, 2025, 04:26:54 PMRealistically you should expect to lose planes when you run large scale attacks like that.

Not to Iranian fire when you're flying F-35s.

I wasn't thinking of enemy fire at all.

JudgeDredd

Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 16, 2025, 05:04:49 PMNoooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!! For the love of God, spare the Tomcats!

I mean - that's just not on  :knuppel2:
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undercovergeek

Quote from: JudgeDredd on June 17, 2025, 02:02:37 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 16, 2025, 05:04:49 PMNoooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!! For the love of God, spare the Tomcats!

I mean - that's just not on  :knuppel2:

Crossed the line that has

What's maverick going to use now when he crash lands 😬

JasonPratt

I just realized the whole point to setting the action in Iran was so Mav could get a vintage Tomcat going.

Also... I was looking for a mind-blown smiley and we don't seem to have one? :ummno:
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Jarhead0331

#25
Great discussion on the lethality and success of the advanced Israeli air campaign, as well as the role the US may be playing.

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Quote from: JasonPratt link=msg=747497  :shocked:  :shocked: date=1750169902I just realized the whole point to setting the action in Iran was so Mav could get a vintage Tomcat going.

I thought Maverick already blew the Iranian nuclear programme to smithereens. So what is going on here?
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I half expect Iran to post up footage from TGM about Western jets being socked by advanced Iranian jets, claiming it's real.
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Quote from: Crossroads on June 17, 2025, 02:54:53 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt link=msg=747497  :shocked:  :shocked: date=1750169902I just realized the whole point to setting the action in Iran was so Mav could get a vintage Tomcat going.

I thought Maverick already blew the Iranian nuclear programme to smithereens. So what is going on here?
The film documentary didn't allude to the location
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Crossroads

Quote from: JudgeDredd on June 18, 2025, 03:43:26 AM
Quote from: Crossroads on June 17, 2025, 02:54:53 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt link=msg=747497  :shocked:  :shocked: date=1750169902I just realized the whole point to setting the action in Iran was so Mav could get a vintage Tomcat going.

I thought Maverick already blew the Iranian nuclear programme to smithereens. So what is going on here?
The film documentary didn't allude to the location

But the Tomcat did, right  :justice: 
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