News from Ukraine Conflict

[GDS_Starfury]

Rapid Trident is an annual U.S. Army Europe conducted, Ukrainian led multinational exercise designed to enhance interoperability with allied and partner nations while promoting regional stability and security.

I'm not sure this means what they think it does.

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

*mumblemumblemumble* '...land war in Asia' *mumble*

Stay west of the Urals, no problem.

[pawelj]

I still dont see anyone here actually advocating that we send troops to the Ukraine and start a shooting war with Russia?  So what else does that leave other than people on the sidelines trying to get us dragged into this mess.  Its easy to say yes to using force after all that got us two gulf wars and look how well those turned out....much harder and wiser to say no

Con

And this is the attitude the Putin is counting on. 

There are two choices, do as you advocate and what we are currently doing, which is very little.  Or send troops in Ukraine and challenge Putin to keep pushing. 

We did nothing when Putin took South Ossetian from Georgia.  We did nothing when he took Crimean from Ukraine.  We have placed economic sanctions on him, but it doesn't seem to be doing a lot to cause him to pull back.

I do. It's the only thing Putin would understand. And it is far more important issue then ISIS.

[Micha]

We Germans had our Hitler and did nothing to stop him.
Now he is back in Russia and does the same things, the only difference is the direction, not west east, this time east west.
People in Russia , dont make the same misstake we did, stop him before ist to late.

[pawelj]

We Germans had our Hitler and did nothing to stop him.
Now he is back in Russia and does the same things, the only difference is the direction, not west east, this time east west.
People in Russia , dont make the same misstake we did, stop him before ist to late.

Russkies had Lenin, Stalin, and the following bunch, and they did not stop any of them. 

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

Many Russians seem to admire them, in that they bring a sense of power to Russia. As if they become more powerful by association with Russia following the idiot exploits.

I see the long term problem with these land grabs as #1 a hardening of positions from all parties that builds until everyone wants a war to screw the other party. He sets in motion something he cannot possibly control.

[LongBlade]

Many Russians seem to admire them, in that they bring a sense of power to Russia. As if they become more powerful by association with Russia following the idiot exploits.

I see the long term problem with these land grabs as #1 a hardening of positions from all parties that builds until everyone wants a war to screw the other party. He sets in motion something he cannot possibly control.

Great point.

[LongBlade]

Russian courts could get the green light to seize foreign assets on Russian territory under a draft law intended as a response to Western sanctions over the Ukraine crisis.

The draft, which was submitted to parliament on Wednesday by a pro-Kremlin deputy, would also allow state compensation for an individual whose property is seized in foreign jurisdictions.

Italian authorities this week seized property worth about 30 million euros ($40 million) belonging to companies controlled by Arkady Rotenberg, an ally of President Vladimir Putin targeted by the U.S. and European Union sanctions.

source: https://news.yahoo.com/russian-draft-law-allow-seizure-foreign-property-124247659--business.html

[BanzaiCat]

That'll show 'em, Russia. If you couldn't alienate yourself any further, I think you just managed to pull it off...unless, of course, you pass this law.

[Staggerwing]

Yeah, that'll really ease the minds of any remaining foreign investors still thinking of entering Russian markets...  ::)

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

Wait for the penny rouble.

[GDS_Starfury]

and the BBC is now bringing up winter gas deals with Russia.
heres were it all falls apart.

[Gusington]

Winter is coming and has been throughout this entire mess.

[GDS_Starfury]

only one thing for it then.

we need more global warming!

[Gusington]

Wndy will have to go get his cape at the dry cleaners before he can jump into the fray.