News from Ukraine Conflict

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Airborne Rifles

More fallout from us supporting the Muslim Brotherhood over Mubarak:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/russia-egypt-just-got-even-222300713.html

Can't say I blame the Egyptians under the circumstances. But they should know these kind of relationships with Russia are like being a battered wife usually.

Staggerwing

Does that mean we get a refund on all the hardware and cash we gave Egypt?
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LongBlade

Quote from: Staggerwing on March 04, 2015, 06:03:02 AM
Where are those quotes from?

One of the best and most respected authorities on Russian history: Wikilongbladia
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

BanzaiCat

I thought that was Wikijasonprattia?

pawelj

Quote from: LongBlade on March 02, 2015, 03:34:28 PM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on March 02, 2015, 11:44:12 AM
Quote from: Staggerwing on February 28, 2015, 07:31:15 AM
Even though the killing will make Putin look bad, him being the obvious suspect, he may have felt he had no choice if this Nemtsov guy actually had the evidence he said he did of Russia's direct role in the Ukraine conflict and was ready to release it very soon.

It also may have been a faction within Putin's regime who had more to lose than just irritating him, or even a criminal element that was itself directly involved with supplying the conflict's rebel side, with unofficial Putin sanction. I'm willing to bet that in the Russia the 'roles' of the Russian Mob, the secret police, the big business sector, and of high gov't officials have overlapped so much that Russia is effectively a Mafia caliphate.

some commentary from on the ground in Russia

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/28/boris-nemtsov-death-fear-for-the-future-of-russians

Yikes. Going back to the 30s? It's difficult to contemplate.
I think we are there already.
"Britain and France had to choose between war and dishonour. They chose dishonour. They will have war." - Winston Churchill

LongBlade

Quote from: pawelj on March 05, 2015, 12:02:49 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on March 02, 2015, 03:34:28 PM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on March 02, 2015, 11:44:12 AM
Quote from: Staggerwing on February 28, 2015, 07:31:15 AM
Even though the killing will make Putin look bad, him being the obvious suspect, he may have felt he had no choice if this Nemtsov guy actually had the evidence he said he did of Russia's direct role in the Ukraine conflict and was ready to release it very soon.

It also may have been a faction within Putin's regime who had more to lose than just irritating him, or even a criminal element that was itself directly involved with supplying the conflict's rebel side, with unofficial Putin sanction. I'm willing to bet that in the Russia the 'roles' of the Russian Mob, the secret police, the big business sector, and of high gov't officials have overlapped so much that Russia is effectively a Mafia caliphate.

some commentary from on the ground in Russia

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/28/boris-nemtsov-death-fear-for-the-future-of-russians

Yikes. Going back to the 30s? It's difficult to contemplate.
I think we are there already.

Putin needs to do some military purges to convince me.
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

BanzaiCat

He's managed to purge his administration and parliament of sense, reason, and common sense. Military purges and civilian forced collectivization are likely on the near horizon.

Mr. Bigglesworth

Even Pope of the Orthodox church is probably on the table. The best way to claim ultimate power is to pretend you are the hand of God.
"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; "
- Shakespeare's Henry V, Act III, 1598

Mr. Bigglesworth

Quote from: LongBlade on March 05, 2015, 12:23:16 PM
Quote from: pawelj on March 05, 2015, 12:02:49 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on March 02, 2015, 03:34:28 PM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on March 02, 2015, 11:44:12 AM
Quote from: Staggerwing on February 28, 2015, 07:31:15 AM
Even though the killing will make Putin look bad, him being the obvious suspect, he may have felt he had no choice if this Nemtsov guy actually had the evidence he said he did of Russia's direct role in the Ukraine conflict and was ready to release it very soon.

It also may have been a faction within Putin's regime who had more to lose than just irritating him, or even a criminal element that was itself directly involved with supplying the conflict's rebel side, with unofficial Putin sanction. I'm willing to bet that in the Russia the 'roles' of the Russian Mob, the secret police, the big business sector, and of high gov't officials have overlapped so much that Russia is effectively a Mafia caliphate.

some commentary from on the ground in Russia

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/28/boris-nemtsov-death-fear-for-the-future-of-russians

Yikes. Going back to the 30s? It's difficult to contemplate.
I think we are there already.

Putin needs to do some military purges to convince me.

Today's Audible daily deal is about KGB purges $3.95

Spymaster: Startling Cold War Revelations of a Soviet KGB Chief

http://www.audible.com/pd/History/Spymaster-Audiobook/B00GFZZY50#publisher-summary
"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; "
- Shakespeare's Henry V, Act III, 1598

OJsDad

Quote from: Banzai_Cat on March 05, 2015, 12:43:10 PM
He's managed to purge his administration and parliament of sense, reason, and common sense. Military purges and civilian forced collectivization are likely on the near horizon.

This explains why he needs Ukraine.  Without, how will he starve to death millions. 
'Here at NASA we all pee the same color.'  Al Harrison from the movie Hidden Figures.

OJsDad

Quote from: Airborne Rifles on March 04, 2015, 07:45:17 AM
More fallout from us supporting the Muslim Brotherhood over Mubarak:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/russia-egypt-just-got-even-222300713.html

Can't say I blame the Egyptians under the circumstances. But they should know these kind of relationships with Russia are like being a battered wife usually.

Well, I guess Israel will be taking procession of the Sinai Peninsula again.  Maybe this time they'll keep it.
'Here at NASA we all pee the same color.'  Al Harrison from the movie Hidden Figures.

JasonPratt

Quote from: GDS_Starfury on March 03, 2015, 03:22:29 PM
You are just all about the rainbows and unicorns today.

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Israel and Egypt are fine with each other.  Egypt seems to have learned enough during the 70s.
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endfire79

Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on March 05, 2015, 01:23:42 PM
Even Pope Patriarch of the Russian Orthodox church is probably on the table. The best way to claim ultimate power is to pretend you are the hand of God.

Sorry, but to clarify.  The rest of the orthodox sects have their own heads.
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Mr. Bigglesworth

Quote from: endfire79 on March 05, 2015, 09:39:15 PM
Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on March 05, 2015, 01:23:42 PM
Even Pope Patriarch of the Russian Orthodox church is probably on the table. The best way to claim ultimate power is to pretend you are the hand of God.

Sorry, but to clarify.  The rest of the orthodox sects have their own heads.

OK.
"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; "
- Shakespeare's Henry V, Act III, 1598