Panther Games Command Ops 2 Limited Time Offer Bundle Pack Coming Soon

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-budd-

I'm not sure i will update my modules, depends on the features. I am real curious how thats going to work, porting features back. Imagine how much of a  change and work it would be porting back something like mounted ops. Mounted ops is going to be a big game changer, dismounting before assaulting, tank riders, ect. . One thing i think is long overdue is a map upgrade, not to 3d, but something that makes reading the terrain and elevations easier. Hope they give plodder a shot at the game maps.
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panzerde

Quote from: Skoop on May 25, 2015, 01:43:41 PM
Staring at 2d counters isn't for me lately, so I passed Sale or not.  I'd love to see this game zoom in and see what those 3d pixel truppen are doing in a 3d world, to me that would be ground breaking.  I may revisit this again when they go to the eastern front.


If you're interested in East Front scenario's you should check out the amazing work being done by Chris Maiorana at http://thesharpendgaming.blogspot.com/.
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Tuna

I bought Bulge and HITR at Matrix and never played them.. So 50 was too high for me for an 'upgrade'.. If it was a first time buyer, it definitely is a great deal. But I thought they were gonna have specific scenario upgrades at a discount, but later on, it seems that didn't happen, because of the full package one. So even though I also like the concept, I never played, so I'll pass. LOL and I'll think that I regret it later, but I'll get over it.

RyanE

Those east front scenarios are the ones that convinced me to buy.

Skoop

Can you play those with the free engine or do you need any of the paid packs ?  It was unclear to me, it almost seems that you could download everything as free content and play ?

panzerde

Quote from: Skoop on May 25, 2015, 02:24:25 PM
Can you play those with the free engine or do you need any of the paid packs ?  It was unclear to me, it almost seems that you could download everything as free content and play ?

If you're talking about Chris' scenarios, his are all free. Since LnL/Panther have yet to release any "official" East Front scenarios Chris generally releases everything you need to play them. Note that most of these were developed for CO1 and he's in progress of converting them for CO2.

I extensively play-tested most of these and they are a good bunch of scenarios. Chris has done great work on maps and the OOBs.

Having said that, if you play his scenarios and like them, I encourage you to buy at least some of the scenario packs that LnL/Panther has made available. They can't keep making the game without money, and without a game, Chris won't be making more scenarios. It's a damn good game and there's really nothing else like it out there.
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JudgeDredd

Quote from: -budd- on May 25, 2015, 01:45:31 PM
I'm not sure i will update my modules, depends on the features. I am real curious how thats going to work, porting features back. Imagine how much of a  change and work it would be porting back something like mounted ops. Mounted ops is going to be a big game changer, dismounting before assaulting, tank riders, ect. . One thing i think is long overdue is a map upgrade, not to 3d, but something that makes reading the terrain and elevations easier. Hope they give plodder a shot at the game maps.
That one would be huge for me also. It's the single biggest let down of the game. They have improved the tools somewhat - but it's still a mare to read the terrain easily.
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Zonso

Quote from: -budd- on May 25, 2015, 01:45:31 PM
I'm not sure i will update my modules, depends on the features. I am real curious how thats going to work, porting features back. Imagine how much of a  change and work it would be porting back something like mounted ops. Mounted ops is going to be a big game changer, dismounting before assaulting, tank riders, ect. . One thing i think is long overdue is a map upgrade, not to 3d, but something that makes reading the terrain and elevations easier. Hope they give plodder a shot at the game maps.

Therein lays the problem imo and rears its head again with this *new* version. The changes to the games are extremely incremental. Stuff like Mounted Ops and map presentation, and a host of others, have been suggested and pointed out for years, and never get done... I understand the desire to support the developer/game; I have done it with Panther through to CO1 and with other developers. However, I really can't see myself paying for this game again without some major improvements. I had initially thought the break from Matrix would bring some needed impetus to that, but the new core engine removed any question of that. I only write this in the still hope, likely vain, of some major changes to this game before opening the wallet again, instead of 'quietly' supporting.

salazarus

For me CO1 and CO2 are too similar. I have CO1 and all expansions and for now I don't see any reason to buy it again. I'm waiting for first big update to see how their business model with paid updates will work for me. It is great deal if you don't own CO1.
I want to support developer but sell me something new. I don't want remake and some promises.

Rayfer

Quote from: salazarus on May 26, 2015, 07:23:22 AM
For me CO1 and CO2 are too similar. I have CO1 and all expansions and for now I don't see any reason to buy it again. I'm waiting for first big update to see how their business model with paid updates will work for me. It is great deal if you don't own CO1.
I want to support developer but sell me something new. I don't want remake and some promises.

+1

amandachen

I'm waiting too. I have the complete CO1, and so I'm more interested in any new modules. I read this in the forums:

QuoteIn a years time we will have released at least two and maybe up to four more modules. At that time we may offer another bundle or we may combine all of them into the one new bundle. I want to keep my options open at this stage. But I would envisage on offering a similar type of limited time discount as we have with the current Commander Pack.


jomni

I wanna see if Comand Ops Mosul takes shape.  Anything not WW2 is good for me.

MikeGER

Quote from: -budd- on May 25, 2015, 01:45:31 PM
I'm not sure i will update my modules, depends on the features. I am real curious how that's going to work, porting features back. Imagine how much of a  change and work it would be porting back something like mounted ops. Mounted ops is going to be a big game changer, dismounting before assaulting, tank riders, ect.

i doubt the existing modules will get updated to mounted ops and tank-riders.
(and i would re-buy them again only for a very very tempting small bundle price ....i think customer who buys a new scenario set should get a coupon to upgrade old scenarios in his existing collection for a minimal fee)

at the end of the day there is always 'red' battalion X  degrading/repelling/annihilating   'blue' battalion Y
and the old scenario was balanced in a way that the outcome of such a meeting in a given situation factoring in stance,landscape, you name it...  of those two forces is 'historical plausible'  (number of casualties / time until retreat or annihilation)  ...so the 'details of the battle' (mounted or not mounted) were already somehow factored in with the other parameters
now in a updated version of that scenario you would see (or control if you interfer) the details -like mounting and dismounting in an assault - ....but the outcome of the battle a few hours into the assault (the statistic) should be the same in the old and reworked old scenario.

of course i got the bundle  :) 
...but i am more interested in new scenarios now which where build with the upcoming (eatern front)features in mind, because they had historical importance in those battlefields    ....and its always nice to have more control, if i want to micro but fortunately cause of the outstanding Command Ops AI, i don't have to micro
       

salazarus

Their whole business is all about updating modules for fee and the fee won't be minimal. It will be around $50 for bundle. That gives $100 a year to keep  the game updated (tbh the $50 tag isn't fixed and they will sell smaller updates for less). I will probably buy CO2 after mayor update but I need to see features worth my money.

MikeGER

Quote from: salazarus on May 27, 2015, 02:45:06 AM
Their whole business is all about updating modules for fee and the fee won't be minimal. It will be around $50 for bundle. That gives $100 a year to keep  the game updated (tbh the $50 tag isn't fixed and they will sell smaller updates for less).

i think the main business will still be selling new modules for the price of main standalone CO title in the past (depending on the numbers of scenarios included. so roughly 2 sets = one standalone in the past)


and fortunately (when it came to game money spendings) PantherGames is so slooow  >:D that there will be only one 50-buck-bundle upgrade every 2 years so (and that engine version may not even have enuf new features added to pull the trigger on upgrading older scenarios so it can also be 4 years) ....so its $25 a year, or less ;)