Vietnam '65 announced @ Matrixgames/Slitherine

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Quote from: Boggit on February 15, 2015, 01:13:42 AM
Can you play both sides?
Only US/ARVN at this stage ...

Yes , going live on Steam and App Store 5th March.

Yes, we have got a wish list from PBR's to Pink Teams ...   :)

Like your ideas iro sampans tho  ???

fabius

Quote from: Vietnam65 on February 15, 2015, 04:02:57 AM


Quote from: Boggit on February 15, 2015, 01:13:42 AM
Can you play both sides?
Only US/ARVN at this stage ...

Yes , going live on Steam and App Store 5th March.

Yes, we have got a wish list from PBR's to Pink Teams ...   :)

Like your ideas iro sampans tho  ???

1. Biggest thing that jumped out at me was boy, I'll burn through 45 turns in no time... and can anticipate wanting an option for longer turn games;

2. and larger maps.

3. Add Two player and campaigns- and I think we'll have a classic coming our way.

4. Small point- but it looked like Green Berets were only being used for scouting and the vid guy said they were week for combat. Fair enough, but are there any mechanics for them being better at entering villages for Hearts and Minds and intel than regular infantry?

5. Also, if more flavour LRRP were added, or even with the Green Berets,- a mechanic where they remain weak in full combat but good at ambushing moving NVA and VC would be a very nice addition.

Oh, and I'm sure you've thought all this through as it sounded like you've immersed yourself in the era.

jomni

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4. Small point- but it looked like Green Berets were only being used for scouting and the vid guy said they were week for combat. Fair enough, but are there any mechanics for them being better at entering villages for Hearts and Minds and intel than regular infantry?

Only a speculation of mine, but when he clicks the Green Berets, there is an icon of a soldier with a South Vietnamese flag.  I think those GB's are used to train indigenous forces (CIDG) to bolster the defense of the villages.  But the guy in the demo didn't use this feature.

fabius

Quote from: jomni on February 15, 2015, 05:56:57 AM
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4. Small point- but it looked like Green Berets were only being used for scouting and the vid guy said they were week for combat. Fair enough, but are there any mechanics for them being better at entering villages for Hearts and Minds and intel than regular infantry?

Only a speculation of mine, but when he clicks the Green Berets, there is an icon of a soldier with a South Vietnamese flag.  I think those GB's are used to train indigenous forces (CIDG) to bolster the defense of the villages.  But the guy in the demo didn't use this feature.

Good spot, thanks Jomni. The guy in the vid seemed to go at it without a clear strategy... still looks like potential cliché of easy to play harder to master. Definitely looked like some good balance to force some decision making.

Vietnam65

He didn't do a lot of things  ::)

Training ARVN is a big part of the game, as although they are weaker in combat they are better at gathering Intel from the locals ....

Vietnam65

Quote from: fabius on February 15, 2015, 05:49:05 AM
Quote from: Vietnam65 on February 15, 2015, 04:02:57 AM


Quote from: Boggit on February 15, 2015, 01:13:42 AM
Can you play both sides?
Only US/ARVN at this stage ...

Yes , going live on Steam and App Store 5th March.

Yes, we have got a wish list from PBR's to Pink Teams ...   :)

Like your ideas iro sampans tho  ???

1. Biggest thing that jumped out at me was boy, I'll burn through 45 turns in no time... and can anticipate wanting an option for longer turn games;


Game lasts about 2 to 3 hours , the intent behind this game was "play the Vietnam War in under three hours"

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and larger maps.
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The prototype had larger maps, still something I want to explore, definitely if we build a Campaign in the future...

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Add Two player and campaigns- and I think we'll have a classic coming our way.
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I agree  ;)

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Small point- but it looked like Green Berets were only being used for scouting
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Army SF in V65 are used for scouting and training ARVN, can't gather Intel, but ARVN troops are better at gathering Intel than the US infantry

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Also, if more flavour LRRP were added, or even with the Green Berets,- a mechanic where they remain weak in full combat but good at ambushing moving NVA and VC would be a very nice addition.
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I think I have said it before in another forum maybe, but we have a wishlist from PBR's to Pink Teams  :)


There is so much more than can be added to this game ...

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Oh, and I'm sure you've thought all this through as it sounded like you've immersed yourself in the era.
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Really appreciate your feedback and ideas, and yes, immersed is a good word ... ^-^

Vietnam65

The quoting function is not that user friendly in this forum, sorry ...

Staggerwing

Quote from: Vietnam65 on February 15, 2015, 11:35:43 AM
The quoting function is not that user friendly in this forum, sorry ...

Just remove the '/' from each 1st quote pair. Each quote snippet should look like this: {quote} Hey look Ma! I'm quoting!{/quote} ,but using the '[ and ]' instead of '{ and }' and you get:

QuoteHey look Ma! I'm quoting!

You can also use the button above the composition window and then insert the copied snippet between the quote pairs.
Vituð ér enn - eða hvat?  -Voluspa

Nothing really rocks and nothing really rolls and nothing's ever worth the cost...

"Don't you look at me that way..." -the Abyss
 
'When searching for a meaningful embrace, sometimes my self respect took second place' -Iggy Pop, Cry for Love

... this will go down on your permanent record... -the Violent Femmes, 'Kiss Off'-

"I'm not just anyone, I'm not just anyone-
I got my time machine, got my 'electronic dream!"
-Sonic Reducer, -Dead Boys

Staggerwing

Vituð ér enn - eða hvat?  -Voluspa

Nothing really rocks and nothing really rolls and nothing's ever worth the cost...

"Don't you look at me that way..." -the Abyss
 
'When searching for a meaningful embrace, sometimes my self respect took second place' -Iggy Pop, Cry for Love

... this will go down on your permanent record... -the Violent Femmes, 'Kiss Off'-

"I'm not just anyone, I'm not just anyone-
I got my time machine, got my 'electronic dream!"
-Sonic Reducer, -Dead Boys

Vietnam65

Oh ok thanks, I was trying to highlight text then use quote  :-\

Staggerwing

Yeah, that would be too easy for the likes of us.  :))

Maybe the forum's code-monkey will put it on his list if we give him a banana?
Vituð ér enn - eða hvat?  -Voluspa

Nothing really rocks and nothing really rolls and nothing's ever worth the cost...

"Don't you look at me that way..." -the Abyss
 
'When searching for a meaningful embrace, sometimes my self respect took second place' -Iggy Pop, Cry for Love

... this will go down on your permanent record... -the Violent Femmes, 'Kiss Off'-

"I'm not just anyone, I'm not just anyone-
I got my time machine, got my 'electronic dream!"
-Sonic Reducer, -Dead Boys


fabius

Quote from: Vietnam65 on February 15, 2015, 11:34:00 AM

I think I have said it before in another forum maybe, but we have a wishlist from PBR's to Pink Teams  :)


There is so much more than can be added to this game ...


Really appreciate your feedback and ideas, and yes, immersed is a good word ... ^-^

Oh, I'm sure you have a longer list than possible, and judging from the interview and vid a good sense of direction with it...

Training ARVN for better intel sounds like a good mechanic in the mix.


Thanks again.


I'm swinging by Amazon later and picking up 'Unheralded Victory: The Defeat of the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese Army, 1961-1973'.

It's been on my wish list for a while. Anybody have any good 'Nam read recommendations.

kassdhal

Have they announced the price? Will it be another overpriced Slitherine game?

Vietnam65

'Unheralded Victory: The Defeat of the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese Army, 1961-1973'.

Going to order that tomorrow then, thanks for the heads up !  :)

You tried 'Vietnam Solitaire' by White Dog Games , pretty good for single play.

Yeah, I really hope this is the first edition of V65, can really go into more depth Vietnam'66 Mekong Delta , Vietnam'67 Vietnamisation , you get the pic  ::)