CM: Black Sea Strategy Discussion Thread

Con · February 03, 2015, 03:37:21 PM

I am playing a pbem game and already made a big mistake. The intel told me the town was clear and I rushed a Ukrainian BMP and squad to a point where I could overwatch the bridge leading into the town to hopefully stop any Russians from making it over. Of course Mil Intel is known as Green Slime for a reason (their motto is We bet YOUR life) and I guess Ukrainian is even worse. Result one sniper half squad took out my entire squad before my BMP either killed him or suppressed him. Its a different world with modern weapons for sure.

I also wanted to add something about immersion factor I have changed my tune on the flavor objects in the game. Seeing modern bus stops, stores with banners outside (similar to IKEA etc) and other modern European touches have really made me feel like these battles are happening today. Its sometimes the small things that make the biggest differences and there is something very unsettling about watching rifle fire and modern arty ripping up homes that look like where I lived in Europe.

Con

Jarhead0331 · February 03, 2015, 03:45:46 PM

Quote from: Con on February 03, 2015, 03:37:21 PM
I am playing a pbem game and already made a big mistake. The intel told me the town was clear and I rushed a Ukrainian BMP and squad to a point where I could overwatch the bridge leading into the town to hopefully stop any Russians from making it over. Of course Mil Intel is known as Green Slime for a reason (their motto is We bet YOUR life) and I guess Ukrainian is even worse. Result one sniper half squad took out my entire squad before my BMP either killed him or suppressed him. Its a different world with modern weapons for sure.

Could have been worse. An ATGM could have taken out your BMP...with your squad inside of it.

Zulu1966 · February 03, 2015, 03:45:58 PM

Quote from: Con on February 03, 2015, 03:37:21 PM
I am playing a pbem game and already made a big mistake. The intel told me the town was clear and I rushed a Ukrainian BMP and squad to a point where I could overwatch the bridge leading into the town to hopefully stop any Russians from making it over. Of course Mil Intel is known as Green Slime for a reason (their motto is We bet YOUR life) and I guess Ukrainian is even worse. Result one sniper half squad took out my entire squad before my BMP either killed him or suppressed him. Its a different world with modern weapons for sure.

I also wanted to add something about immersion factor I have changed my tune on the flavor objects in the game. Seeing modern bus stops, stores with banners outside (similar to IKEA etc) and other modern European touches have really made me feel like these battles are happening today. Its sometimes the small things that make the biggest differences and there is something very unsettling about watching rifle fire and modern arty ripping up homes that look like where I lived in Europe.

Con

You should try some of the mods already released - the background one that adds electricity pylons and a TV antenna are great - such a small change such a big difference.

Sir Slash · February 03, 2015, 04:43:28 PM

Will we see Product Placements next? Coke, KFC, or GM. What about an Apple store? Or Geico? If I was living in the Ukraine, I would definitely want insurance.

Grim.Reaper · February 03, 2015, 06:12:25 PM

Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 03, 2015, 11:56:22 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on February 03, 2015, 11:52:43 AM
He didn't say you couldn't do it - just that an easier option would be cool.

Exactly. Thank you.

Some games have this feature, where you can pick any spot on the map and instantly see graphically what a unit in that spot can see, or from where a unit in that spot could be seen.

Agree with all this....would love something like this.

Staggerwing · February 03, 2015, 10:07:30 PM

Quote from: Sir Slash on February 03, 2015, 04:43:28 PM
Will we see Product Placements next? Coke, KFC, or GM. What about an Apple store? Or Geico? If I was living in the Ukraine, I would definitely want insurance.

LOL.

Maybe the Ukes should hire that Allstate Mayhem guy in the suit with all the bandaids on his face to drive all around Donetsk and Luhansk until the rebels start waving white flags from under the wreckage of their shops and garages.

Sir Slash · February 03, 2015, 11:39:48 PM

"Protect yourself from Putin. Like me". ;D

Yskonyn · February 04, 2015, 09:43:43 AM

I get artifacts when I try to capture screenshots with Prt Scr and load them into GIMP from memory. And there isn't a shortcut in-game that I am aware of, so I am curious to find out how others make good screenshots of their CM games?

Anyway here are two I managed without too many artifacts:

Here we spew fire from a concealed position to the tower housing a sniper.

And here we see our rifle squad assaulting the building. An IFV is on overwatch just outside the viewpoint of the camera.
Result; 2 hostiles dead and successful capture of the building. No casualties.

The soldiers running towards the building show some serious artifacting around their legs and backpacks. Not so in-game. :S

JudgeDredd · February 04, 2015, 09:54:28 AM

I had an instance in game last night of soldiers on conveyor belts sliding across the ground. :-\

mikeck · February 04, 2015, 11:16:59 AM

Apparently some Modders have already come out with new gun flash effects and sound effects but the repository isnt hosting yet. Sometimes I have trouble with the drop box links so does anyone know of another site that hosts Battlefront mods?

RyanE · February 04, 2015, 11:35:28 AM

GreenasJade's site is awesome, but he is not supporting CMBS. I have been looking also.

panzerde · February 04, 2015, 12:08:33 PM

Quote from: mikeck on February 04, 2015, 11:16:59 AM
Apparently some Modders have already come out with new gun flash effects and sound effects but the repository isnt hosting yet. Sometimes I have trouble with the drop box links so does anyone know of another site that hosts Battlefront mods?

It looks like the Repository for CMBS will be online very soon, from the forum discussions. Then we won't have to be downloading from Dropbox links. http://cmmods.greenasjade.net/ is another CM Mods site, but I've heard that he won't be hosting CMBS mods, just continued hosting for the WWII series games.

mikeck · February 04, 2015, 12:34:36 PM

Ok, thanks

Elvis · February 04, 2015, 12:58:06 PM

Quote from: Yskonyn on February 04, 2015, 09:43:43 AM
I get artifacts when I try to capture screenshots with Prt Scr and load them into GIMP from memory. And there isn't a shortcut in-game that I am aware of, so I am curious to find out how others make good screenshots of their CM games?

When I was doing the Public Beta AAR for CMRT I couldn't take screen shots with prt scr. It was the first time I had tried to take in game screen shots with a new Windows 8 computer. My son had been using Bandicam to take screen shots of Minecraft, so I tried that and it worked well.

JudgeDredd · February 04, 2015, 05:08:42 PM

I'm stuck in my Black Sea Russian campaign. Second mission I have to navigate through terrain securing areas...but I've only got spotters, HQ's, a couple of snipers and some engineers (sappers?). My vehicles have MGs as do the tracked transports for the sappers.

I have no idea how I can clear these areas out. I just don't seem to have the firepower. I've got kind of bogged down and losing interest rapidly. I could do with a few platoons of infantry and a tank or two.