No thread on Combat Mission Italy Being Released?

Bison · August 04, 2012, 03:35:39 AM

Well if your going to be expected to fork over another $55 for the MG expansion and it requires the upgrade it should be included. However I think you are correct so I'll be stuck with the choice of buying the upgrade in order to play the new content or not. It crappy position for a customer to be put into by a developer IMHO. And I also assume that PBEM and the other multiplayer formats will be affected too, because I'm willing to bet that the old engine and the new engine are not compatible for PBEM different game versions and all that goodness.

LongBlade · August 04, 2012, 09:29:31 AM

I don't know what the plans are for Market Garden but I'm stoked to be playing Fortress Italy.

Grim.Reaper · August 04, 2012, 10:25:37 AM

I am pretty sure I read somewhere the patch would require different purchase than MG and is required to play. However, maybe BF will offer some kind of discount bundle when MG is released. Since I think the CMBN patch will be out long before the MG expansion, they are betting on most people picking up the patch immediately and then when MG is released later they won't feel as bad as spending the $55:)

junk2drive · August 04, 2012, 11:02:09 AM

Sticky in the CMFI forum about upgrade price announcement

QuoteSince I'm here making this announcement I thought it would be good to remind you all of some terminology. This will help everybody keep the facts straight and not get confused by grumblers who seem to not understand the basics. Hopefully you guys can help us keep the grumblers from spreading disinformation based on their ignorance of how things are set up:

Patch = fixes things that are technically broken or, in some cases, not working as they probably should. Never any new content. Cost = $0

Upgrade = new features or major improvements to existing features. Never any new content. Cost = $10

Module = new game content consisting of units, scenarios, and campaigns. Sometimes terrain. There are no features or fixes included which aren't also available as a free Patch or part of an Upgrade. Cost = $35 or less

Pack = new game content consisting mostly of units. As with Modules, there are no code changes that aren't also available as Patches Cost = not yet determined, but certainly less than a Module

Market Garden is a module and should be $35

Grim.Reaper · August 04, 2012, 11:17:39 AM

Quote from: junk2drive on August 04, 2012, 11:02:09 AM
Sticky in the CMFI forum about upgrade price announcement

QuoteSince I'm here making this announcement I thought it would be good to remind you all of some terminology. This will help everybody keep the facts straight and not get confused by grumblers who seem to not understand the basics. Hopefully you guys can help us keep the grumblers from spreading disinformation based on their ignorance of how things are set up:

Patch = fixes things that are technically broken or, in some cases, not working as they probably should. Never any new content. Cost = $0

Upgrade = new features or major improvements to existing features. Never any new content. Cost = $10

Module = new game content consisting of units, scenarios, and campaigns. Sometimes terrain. There are no features or fixes included which aren't also available as a free Patch or part of an Upgrade. Cost = $35 or less

Pack = new game content consisting mostly of units. As with Modules, there are no code changes that aren't also available as Patches Cost = not yet determined, but certainly less than a Module

Market Garden is a module and should be $35

But technically $45 because it will require to purchase the $10 upgrade before being playable. Personally I don't care but I know it bothers some.

Nefaro · August 04, 2012, 11:31:01 AM

LOL!

That post to "keep the facts straight" is hilarious. As in I'm not surprised how diluted the CM marketing model is.

Oh well.. at least all the ignorant grumblers have been set straight about being charged for updates. ::)

Bison · August 04, 2012, 11:51:26 AM

I know that I will in the end I will breakdown and purchase it, but it still rubs me the wrong way. Especially if a game expansion REQUIRES it to play since your base product fails to support itself without it.

Sir Slash · August 04, 2012, 01:01:59 PM

Don't forget the $10 if you want a physical copy via USPS. Still I'm warming to the idea of throwing my money at CMBI even if just to know what the hell you all are talking about. And to see those cool Italian helmets with feathers.

Staggerwing · August 04, 2012, 06:30:13 PM

Quote from: Sir Slash on August 04, 2012, 01:01:59 PM
And to see those cool Italian helmets with feathers.

Those must wait for the North Africa module/expansion/standalone (TBD)...

tgb · August 05, 2012, 06:40:27 AM

Have they announced plans for a demo for Fortress Italy?

Grim.Reaper · August 05, 2012, 07:11:59 AM

Quote from: tgb on August 05, 2012, 06:40:27 AM
Have they announced plans for a demo for Fortress Italy?

Yes, within the release info mentions a demo within the next few weeks.

JudgeDredd · August 05, 2012, 08:52:50 AM

Man.....love the series so ponied up the doe.

Bismarck · August 05, 2012, 09:16:43 AM

Quote from: JudgeDredd on August 05, 2012, 08:52:50 AM
Man.....love the series so ponied up the doe.

Didn't know the accepted venison as payment. Oh well, we're headed toward a barter economy.

mitra76 · August 05, 2012, 09:22:05 AM

Here some short gameplay videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRYM6DEUlFI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=942JZ3ZDfBg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQfkTOphogU

Michael Dorosh · August 06, 2012, 11:15:06 AM

Quote from: junk2drive on August 04, 2012, 11:02:09 AM
Sticky in the CMFI forum about upgrade price announcement

QuoteSince I'm here making this announcement I thought it would be good to remind you all of some terminology. This will help everybody keep the facts straight and not get confused by grumblers who seem to not understand the basics. Hopefully you guys can help us keep the grumblers from spreading disinformation based on their ignorance of how things are set up:

Patch = fixes things that are technically broken or, in some cases, not working as they probably should. Never any new content. Cost = $0

Upgrade = new features or major improvements to existing features. Never any new content. Cost = $10

Module = new game content consisting of units, scenarios, and campaigns. Sometimes terrain. There are no features or fixes included which aren't also available as a free Patch or part of an Upgrade. Cost = $35 or less

Pack = new game content consisting mostly of units. As with Modules, there are no code changes that aren't also available as Patches Cost = not yet determined, but certainly less than a Module

Market Garden is a module and should be $35

Steve also posted this:

QuoteThanks!

We're keeping a bit mum on the details for the Italy Family until we have a chance to let the dust settle a little.

Steve

I don't get it. I bought CM:BN even though the details of the modules were not known. It is now what - two years since the game was announced, and we are all still guessing what the CM:BN family will look like ? Maybe Market-Garden, maybe two?

It is for that reason that I passed on CM:FI - I mean besides the fact that most of it will be a repeat of CM:BN etc. (I have no interest in Italian and 1943-era forces on Sicily). I don't see any reason to get the Italy stuff as very little will be new (fighting Elefants vs. Americans/British isn't enough of a draw to justify it).

Why don't they just announce what the plan is in advance, so we can know which modules we will have to buy? Unless, of course, they don't know themselves?