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Title: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: acctingman on August 15, 2024, 11:42:38 PM
Anyone looking at this one? I've seen a little bit of gameplay and it looks ok.

I haven't heard good things out Ubisoft.

A couple things I do not like is there is no character creation and there will be little to no mod support.

Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Grim.Reaper on August 16, 2024, 07:35:32 AM
Star Wars = Must Buy, easy as that for me!

Likely will buy for console though and might not be right away.....
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Jarhead0331 on August 16, 2024, 08:17:24 AM
The lack of character choice is a huge turnoff for me right out of the gate.

Initial impressions were very negative. They only started to improve after Ubisoft started flying influencers out to Disney for lavish all expense paid parties.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Grim.Reaper on August 16, 2024, 09:56:18 AM
Yep, I don't expect it to be great, but think I have eventually bought anything Star Wars relate so I suspect this still will be the case for me, although highly likely not a day one purchase either way.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Gusington on August 16, 2024, 02:57:30 PM
I'm with Grim, even if not great, it's still Star Wars. Will get it ultimately on discount.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Skoop on August 18, 2024, 01:23:31 PM
On paper this sounds great, open world Star Wars game.  After seeing some deep dives, I'll wait til it's 10 bucks.

I think a total conversion Star Wars mod for starfield is probably what would scratch the itch.

I want a Star Wars game open world where you have total freedom to be part of the empire or rebellion or freelance merc. 

I don't think Star Wars outlaws is what I'm looking for. 
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: acctingman on August 18, 2024, 02:01:32 PM
Quote from: Skoop on August 18, 2024, 01:23:31 PMOn paper this sounds great, open world Star Wars game.  After seeing some deep dives, I'll wait til it's 10 bucks.

I think a total conversion Star Wars mod for starfield is probably what would scratch the itch.

I want a Star Wars game open world where you have total freedom to be part of the empire or rebellion or freelance merc. 

I don't think Star Wars outlaws is what I'm looking for. 

I'm in the same boat
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: al_infierno on August 18, 2024, 04:24:33 PM
I really like the idea of an RDR/GTA style game where you play as a Han Solo or Dash Rendar type.  Customizable facial hair is a must, along with a solid choice of voice actor who evokes that Clint Eastwood energy.

Sorry to say that this ain't it.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: acctingman on August 18, 2024, 04:41:13 PM
The more and more videos I see of this game, without a doubt this is a $10 sale price for me, if that. What a waste. Why can't someone make a legit GOOD Star Wars game? Do developers not know they'd make a killing?

Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: acctingman on August 18, 2024, 05:50:55 PM
So, is anyone following along with this guys complete overhaul of Starfield? It sounds like he's changing names of places, planets, weapons, etc. Not sure if quests are being changed at all, but the work being done looks amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtHQGPZxdDQ
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Grim.Reaper on August 19, 2024, 04:19:21 AM
Guess I will be the only one playing eventually, certainly not waiting until it hits $10:)  Again, not looking for it to be the Game of the Year so as long as decent and throws in Star Wars universe references, I'll likely be more than satisfied for my needs.  I do plan on picking up for the XBOX instead of PC, as it seems with all these new releases the PC usually struggle with stability and performance on release, plus although my PC is better than average, it is getting on the older side.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Gusington on August 19, 2024, 08:52:46 AM
^I'll grab it once it breaks the 30.00 threshold  :stormtrooper2:
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: JudgeDredd on August 21, 2024, 07:45:20 AM
YMMV


I am planning on getting it on release for my PS5.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: acctingman on August 21, 2024, 08:24:31 PM
I'll pick this up when it's 40-50% off or it gets modded (unlikely)
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Destraex on August 21, 2024, 09:24:05 PM
While we are on the topic of Star Wars. Has anybody seen the Acolyte?
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: acctingman on August 21, 2024, 09:31:28 PM
Quote from: Destraex on August 21, 2024, 09:24:05 PMWhile we are on the topic of Star Wars. Has anybody seen the Acolyte?

Hot pile of steaming......wait, we don't have a poo emoji?????
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Gusington on August 21, 2024, 09:32:17 PM
^Much hate generated for the Acolyte, there is  :emporerslightning:
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Uberhaus on August 21, 2024, 11:46:22 PM
The martial arts sequences in the Acolyte were pretty good but it did suffer from a storyline that didn't move forward well at times.
My son told me that it has been cancelled.
Accolades for the Acolyte, few there are.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Grim.Reaper on August 22, 2024, 04:29:12 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on August 21, 2024, 07:45:20 AMYMMV


I am planning on getting it on release for my PS5.

Thanks for sharing, had some good information until he got on his soapbox about being not being a fanboy when previewing games:)  From a game standpoint, pretty much what I expected and still have plans to buy for Xbox myself, moving closer to day one purchase.  I knew this wasn't game of the year for me, just looks like it may be a good time in Star Wars universe and that is all I am looking for.  As he stated, probably somewhere between a 6-8 rating, which is totally fine for me, not everything is a 10:)
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Destraex on August 22, 2024, 07:52:32 AM
Quote from: acctingman on August 21, 2024, 09:31:28 PM
Quote from: Destraex on August 21, 2024, 09:24:05 PMWhile we are on the topic of Star Wars. Has anybody seen the Acolyte?

Hot pile of steaming......wait, we don't have a poo emoji?????
I have not had a chance to watch it yet. I watched all the other tv series and after the last live action one with the weird galaxy gate whales finally completely lost the will to watch anymore star wars series. I won't go out of my way to see the acolyte either after reading this. It can wait.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: JasonPratt on August 22, 2024, 11:36:15 AM
Quote from: Uberhaus on August 21, 2024, 11:46:22 PMThe martial arts sequences in the Acolyte were pretty good but it did suffer from a storyline that didn't move forward well at times.
My son told me that it has been cancelled.
Accolades for the Acolyte, few there are.

It has indeed been canceled.

The martial art sequences looked okay but, as a rule, weren't planned out well. Starting with the infamous first episode duel, where a crazy amount of sandbagging was necessary to even pretend that a Jedi could possibly be killed by a wuxia wire-fu throwing dagger. By far not the only problem with the fight choreography. If the show wasn't overtly bragging in your face about the swass wuxia they're putting up, I'd be more forgiving about this; but as with many other things in SW (and Disney more generally in recent years), it's just surface glitter thrown at a wall without regard about how much will stick.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: JasonPratt on August 22, 2024, 11:38:29 AM
That being said, like every other geek on the face of the planet, I'd be happy if Outlaws turns out to be a good entry. It sort of seems like a vastly updated version of the original "Dark Forces" idea, which come to think of it got a recent remaster, didn't it? Probably not a coincidence!
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Grim.Reaper on August 25, 2024, 07:57:24 AM
Believe tomorrow (8/26), the review embargos lift at 8am.  After continuing to monitor, I am fairly close to this not only being a day one purchase, but buying the version that gives you early access:)  Assuming the reviews tomorrow confirm what has already been released/discussed, I'll likely pull the trigger.  Just can't stay away from Star Wars, I knew I would collapse as we got closer:)
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Gusington on August 25, 2024, 09:21:32 AM
Fortunately for me I have no cash in my gaming slush fund until 9/1, so that will give me time to ponder and then collapse in the end.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: acctingman on August 25, 2024, 08:53:55 PM
No choice of character creation is a no bueno for me. I'll watch this and for sure buy it when it's bargain binned.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Tamas on August 26, 2024, 01:45:15 AM
Hi everyone, I am actually a bit excited about this one even though I am not expecting anything better than Assassins Creed Odyssey in a Star Wars setting.

But, it's Star Wars, during the original trilogy timeline and your PC isn't a Jedi. What more can I want?
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Grim.Reaper on August 26, 2024, 04:06:13 AM
Agreed, maintaining my expectations, but think it will be fine for me, and assuming the reviews are reasonable today, will be picking up so can start playing tomorrow:)  I figure I would buy the expansions anyway so might as well pickup the gold version now.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Gusington on August 26, 2024, 01:58:39 PM
Curious what kind of expansions are planned.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Grim.Reaper on August 26, 2024, 04:34:43 PM
Quote from: Gusington on August 26, 2024, 01:58:39 PMCurious what kind of expansions are planned.

https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/star-wars/outlaws/season-pass
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Jarhead0331 on August 26, 2024, 05:46:19 PM
Game seems to be very divisive. Opinions are ranging from I really like it to its the worst game I've played in 2024.

I'm skipping it.

Space Marine 2 can't come soon enough!
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: acctingman on August 26, 2024, 07:16:22 PM
Wow....I'm kinda shocked there are that many good reviews.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Grim.Reaper on August 26, 2024, 07:27:50 PM
Tons of reviews up, been making my way through Xbox ones, haven't seen any that totally hate it so far, basically seen average game to above average, none where it is great, which I basically expected. Definitely going to buy, got crushed at work today so might be a day or two before I can.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Jarhead0331 on August 26, 2024, 07:36:37 PM
This guy, who I really trust, says it is absolute garbage. I think he calls it "shite".


Negative reviews are not hard to find. I'm surprised you are not seeing them.



Even IGN says it sucks.

Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Grim.Reaper on August 26, 2024, 07:46:29 PM
Looking at ign written review says a 7 and summarizes as following, not sure how their review translates into it sucks.  That type of score is typical for ign.  I have mostly been reviewing Xbox specific reviews and certainly some are lower but none I have seen said it was the worst. To each his own I guess. Not trying to convince others to buy or not buy and can only go off what I have read myself and from what I have read is what I expected.

Star Wars Outlaws is a fun intergalactic heist adventure with great exploration, but it's hindered by simple stealth, repetitive combat, and a few too many bugs at launch.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Jarhead0331 on August 26, 2024, 08:57:41 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on August 26, 2024, 07:46:29 PMLooking at ign written review says a 7 and summarizes as following, not sure how their review translates into it sucks.  That type of score is typical for ign.  I have mostly been reviewing Xbox specific reviews and certainly some are lower but none I have seen said it was the worst. To each his own I guess. Not trying to convince others to buy or not buy and can only go off what I have read myself and from what I have read is what I expected.

Star Wars Outlaws is a fun intergalactic heist adventure with great exploration, but it's hindered by simple stealth, repetitive combat, and a few too many bugs at launch.

I guess you didn't watch the ign video I linked above. They gave it a 4.

In any event, enjoy the game and I hope it's great. Just don't think it's not being reviewed negatively. Because it is.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Grim.Reaper on August 27, 2024, 02:20:54 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on August 26, 2024, 08:57:41 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on August 26, 2024, 07:46:29 PMLooking at ign written review says a 7 and summarizes as following, not sure how their review translates into it sucks.  That type of score is typical for ign.  I have mostly been reviewing Xbox specific reviews and certainly some are lower but none I have seen said it was the worst. To each his own I guess. Not trying to convince others to buy or not buy and can only go off what I have read myself and from what I have read is what I expected.

Star Wars Outlaws is a fun intergalactic heist adventure with great exploration, but it's hindered by simple stealth, repetitive combat, and a few too many bugs at launch.

I guess you didn't watch the ign video I linked above. They gave it a 4.

In any event, enjoy the game and I hope it's great. Just don't think it's not being reviewed negatively. Because it is.

No offense, but I would ask if you actually watched your own video that you indicated IGN said it sucks and gave it a 4.  At the end of the video it clearly gave it a 7 (Good Rating-see screenshot) and the reviewer summarized the game of having some good qualities, while acknowledging it certainly had a number of negatives/rough spots.  This matched the written review I previously stated which makes sense since it is the same reviewer (written article embeds the same video). 

Furthermore, none of my posts ever indicated that I didn't think there were any negative reviews out there, most games do.  What I said is that any reviews I have personally read up until that point did not declare it "sucking" or "worst game", "garbage" etc., although I acknowledged some scores being lower and certainly the reviews did mention some concerns.  Plus I said I was only specifically reviewing Xbox reviews as that is the platform I plan to purchase it on, although I assume all platforms are roughly the same gameplay wise except maybe optimization/performance.  Never said negative reviews didn't exist, nor would I ever think that with the vast number of places reviews happen as that is unrealistic since most games have negative reviews somewhere.  I don't typically watch video reviews as I prefer written reviews as I can read them faster versus watching videos.

I don't expect this game to be great and I have been pretty clear about that, assumed it would be an average game with a Star Wars experience which the reviews I have read seem to confirm that for me.  So a game getting a 6/7 (I have seen higher and lower) seems fitting as what I expected. On Metacritic for Xbox, currently trending around a 78. I'll leave things at that as I am regretting showing any kind of interest in this game and discussing it here, never was trying to convince anyone it would be a great game or to buy it, simply was happy to see another Star Wars game experience.

Screenshot from Your Video

(https://i.imgur.com/tvnLNpN.png)

Link to Written Review
https://www.ign.com/articles/star-wars-outlaws-review

(https://i.imgur.com/cajjC2f.png)
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Jarhead0331 on August 27, 2024, 04:15:18 AM
^thats really weird. You're right about IGN. It's definitely a 7. I swear I watched it and saw a 4. Furthermore, the comments about there being major technical issues and nothing really new seemed to support that.

In any event, you seem to get way too defensive over a game as if you need to justify your interest in buying it. You don't need to justify your interest or defend it. Just like any game, some will like it, some won't. But you should expect to see opinions from both sides and maybe pay attention to them because they may be valid and they could help you. I think it's ridiculous that you would regret posting about it at all simply because I shared negative reviews.

Like I said, I hope you end up loving it and then posting why. I certainly would trust your opinion more than IGNs.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Grim.Reaper on August 27, 2024, 04:40:07 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on August 27, 2024, 04:15:18 AM^thats really weird. You're right about IGN. It's definitely a 7. I swear I watched it and saw a 4. Furthermore, the comments about there being major technical issues and nothing really new seemed to support that.

In any event, you seem to get way too defensive over a game as if you need to justify your interest in buying it. You don't need to justify your interest or defend it. Just like any game, some will like it, some won't. But you should expect to see opinions from both sides and maybe pay attention to them because they may be valid and they could help you. I think it's ridiculous that you would regret posting about it at all simply because I shared negative reviews.

Like I said, I hope you end up loving it and then posting why. I certainly would trust your opinion more than IGNs.

No, I don't get defensive over games, nor justifying my interest, I am quite the opposite.  I can care less whether others like the game or buy, which I have repeatedly said.  What I do care about, is information being correct and representing what I have actually said.  You indicated the video saying it was a 4 and when I stated that the same written review was a 7, you doubled down saying I didn't even bother watching the video.  In the same comments, you implied I didn't think there was any negative reviews out there, which not sure where your getting that or that I have any problem with people sharing negative reviews.  All I said is the reviews I have seen myself didn't contain the same kind of feedback you stated.  Me regretting posting my comments have nothing to do because you simply shared negative reviews.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Jarhead0331 on August 27, 2024, 04:45:10 AM
^you still sound angry.

I made a mistake about IGN. I doubled down because I watched it again and still thought I saw a 4. It doesn't change the fact that there are a lot of negative reviews. Try to just come to grips with that and relax.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Grim.Reaper on August 27, 2024, 04:49:50 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on August 27, 2024, 04:45:10 AM^you still sound angry.

I made a mistake about IGN. I doubled down because I watched it again and still thought I saw a 4. It doesn't change the fact that there are a lot of negative reviews. Try to just come to grips with that and relax.

Still don't know why going on about negative reviews, that was never questioned so nothing to come to grips on. Thanks.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Jarhead0331 on August 27, 2024, 05:02:31 AM
(https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNDZ2YmcycjF3aGlqd2Y1eXVhZnduMGl0bWg5ZnpwcjdiNG83aWRveSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eb4WGfjWeIsgM/giphy.gif)

You're welcome.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Tamas on August 29, 2024, 12:14:04 PM
I feel like my expectations were spot on. I am having a good time but it will only be the (very well executed) Star Wars theme that is going to keep me from getting bored with it. It's decently done but I don't think I'd have the motivation to keep going for long if it was generic sci-fi.

Simple stealth and repetitive combat are indeed the weak points, just like with AssCreed games.

I watched some of the Worth A Buy review, got frustrated with it quite quickly. I used to like that guy but I think he has learned that outrage brings his income.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: al_infierno on August 29, 2024, 01:30:01 PM
Saw an article about how you can't free-aim your blaster while riding the speeder (you can only use the dead-eye mechanic with a cooldown).  The devs gave some BS reason about how you shouldn't be able to just "ride around and assault people."  I can appreciate that they want to emphasize the "speeder chase" aspect of combat you see in the movies, but come on...

For a game about being an outlaw, there sure are a lot of weird restrictions on outlaw stuff you can do.

Quote from: Tamas on August 29, 2024, 12:14:04 PMI used to like that guy but I think he has learned that outrage brings his income.

Many such cases. Critical Drinker is very much the same, except with movies instead of games.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Jarhead0331 on August 29, 2024, 01:59:41 PM
Quote from: Tamas on August 29, 2024, 12:14:04 PMI watched some of the Worth A Buy review, got frustrated with it quite quickly. I used to like that guy but I think he has learned that outrage brings his income.

And outraged with this game he is! The biggest gripe seems to be that it is not really "open world" and, like me, he absolutely hates how they force you into playing as a character that is just not interesting or cool to play as at all. That alone really turns me off of the game.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: al_infierno on August 29, 2024, 02:12:34 PM
I really wish they would've taken the Cyberpunk 2077 approach with a balance between named, canonical character with a personality and being able to actually freaking customize them.

Facial hair is a must in any game about being an outlaw.  I don't make the rules.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Tamas on August 29, 2024, 02:20:44 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on August 29, 2024, 01:59:41 PM
Quote from: Tamas on August 29, 2024, 12:14:04 PMI watched some of the Worth A Buy review, got frustrated with it quite quickly. I used to like that guy but I think he has learned that outrage brings his income.

And outraged with this game he is! The biggest gripe seems to be that it is not really "open world" and, like me, he absolutely hates how they force you into playing as a character that is just not interesting or cool to play as at all. That alone really turns me off of the game.

I think his outrage is way overblown but on the other hand I won't try to convince you to try the game, it certainly is far from perfect. I just think it is good enough for some Star Wars escapism.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Jarhead0331 on August 29, 2024, 02:22:24 PM
Quote from: Tamas on August 29, 2024, 02:20:44 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on August 29, 2024, 01:59:41 PM
Quote from: Tamas on August 29, 2024, 12:14:04 PMI watched some of the Worth A Buy review, got frustrated with it quite quickly. I used to like that guy but I think he has learned that outrage brings his income.

And outraged with this game he is! The biggest gripe seems to be that it is not really "open world" and, like me, he absolutely hates how they force you into playing as a character that is just not interesting or cool to play as at all. That alone really turns me off of the game.

I think his outrage is way overblown but on the other hand I won't try to convince you to try the game, it certainly is far from perfect. I just think it is good enough for some Star Wars escapism.

For me, its not so much that I think there is anything wrong with the game, per se. It is just not the Star Wars RPG type game I was hoping for based upon what I know of it. I think this is why a lot of people like it and a lot of people don't. Just different expectations. 
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Gusington on August 29, 2024, 02:25:39 PM
Going to assume that it is a very different game from the Knights of the Old Republic series...
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Tamas on August 29, 2024, 03:43:54 PM
Quote from: Gusington on August 29, 2024, 02:25:39 PMGoing to assume that it is a very different game from the Knights of the Old Republic series...

Essentially it is an advanced version of the formula used in the open world-ish Assassin Creed games. A step above what Ubisoft normally does for games but definitely not a KOTOR level RPG.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Father Ted on August 29, 2024, 05:19:17 PM
Quote from: al_infierno on August 29, 2024, 02:12:34 PMFacial hair is a must in any game about being an outlaw.  I don't make the rules.

And there I was just about to pull the trigger - thanks for the save
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: JudgeDredd on August 30, 2024, 10:16:33 AM
Guys - I have a question for you...

For the guys who don't want to play because you're being forced to play a specific character (so forget the reviews for now)...how many of you played The Last of Us and presented that same argument? I may have missed those arguments - but I think it's worth asking the question.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: al_infierno on August 30, 2024, 10:39:06 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on August 30, 2024, 10:16:33 AMGuys - I have a question for you...

For the guys who don't want to play because you're being forced to play a specific character (so forget the reviews for now)...how many of you played The Last of Us and presented that same argument? I may have missed those arguments - but I think it's worth asking the question.

For me it's a question of theme and setting. Anything remotely Wild West outlaw-ish has me wanting to play a pretty specific Eastwood-esque gunslinger type. Think John and Arthur from RDR.

I enjoyed playing as Joel as TLOU and even Ellie and Abby in TLOU2, since I don't really have similar hang ups about post apocalypse stuff. Although I would have liked if that game was set in Britain with a Clive Owen type protagonist with some classic British wit, like Children of Men.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: JudgeDredd on August 30, 2024, 10:42:17 AM
ok - fairy snuff
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: acctingman on August 30, 2024, 01:45:10 PM
I want choices. Don't give me choices then it's my choice not to buy. Anyways, it's looking like this game is a steaming pile of crap.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Jarhead0331 on August 30, 2024, 02:08:09 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on August 30, 2024, 10:16:33 AMGuys - I have a question for you...

For the guys who don't want to play because you're being forced to play a specific character (so forget the reviews for now)...how many of you played The Last of Us and presented that same argument? I may have missed those arguments - but I think it's worth asking the question.

I never played the TLOU. The closest thing I can compare it to is the Witcher. I tried and tried and tried...and tried to get into it. Time after time I would go back to it to see what I must be missing based on all the rave reviews, but I just couldn't get into it and after awhile, I began to realize that a large part of my rejection of the game was due to the fact that I couldn't connect with the player character and there was not enough of an ability to customize. In Outlaws, its the same problem, but compounded by the fact that there are so many cool directions they could have gone in with the player character, even if they wanted to limit or restrict customization. In my view, it was a tremendous mistake and a missed opportunity.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: acctingman on August 30, 2024, 02:14:31 PM
JH put it so much more eloquently than I could (I just use poop emojis and call stuff shit)
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: JudgeDredd on August 31, 2024, 01:08:16 AM
Fair enough.

As a person that doesn't give a poop about something like that, and bearing in mind we've not always had the ability for such a thing, it seemed an odd thing to me for people to use as a reason not to get a game (though it transpires there are now other reasons - though i will be getting it soon).

I would grant you, given its been around for a few years, it is an odd thing to leave out a game.

Having said that, there are plenty of games that do not allow you character creation.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Jarhead0331 on August 31, 2024, 03:52:05 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on August 31, 2024, 01:08:16 AMFair enough.

As a person that doesn't give a poop about something like that, and bearing in mind we've not always had the ability for such a thing, it seemed an odd thing to me for people to use as a reason not to get a game (though it transpires there are now other reasons - though i will be getting it soon).

I would grant you, given its been around for a few years, it is an odd thing to leave out a game.

Having said that, there are plenty of games that do not allow you character creation.

I dunno dude...it's called a role playing game. The whole point is to let players have a say in the "role" that they play. If it is more of a narrowly focused action-adventure game, think something along the lines of Tomb Raider, it shouldn't be marketed as an open world RPG.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: JudgeDredd on August 31, 2024, 07:38:19 AM
I didn't see anything that said it's an RPG   :HideEyes:
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: JudgeDredd on August 31, 2024, 07:41:34 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on August 27, 2024, 04:49:50 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on August 27, 2024, 04:45:10 AM^you still sound angry.

I made a mistake about IGN. I doubled down because I watched it again and still thought I saw a 4. It doesn't change the fact that there are a lot of negative reviews. Try to just come to grips with that and relax.

Still don't know why going on about negative reviews, that was never questioned so nothing to come to grips on. Thanks.
Did you pick it up? I'd be interested in your thoughts.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Jarhead0331 on August 31, 2024, 09:11:31 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on August 31, 2024, 07:38:19 AMI didn't see anything that said it's an RPG  :HideEyes:


These are the descriptions I'm referring to...

QuoteThe first-ever open world Star Wars video game, the highly-anticipated Star Wars Outlaws, launches today. The third-person role play game (RPG) focuses on a Han Solo-inspired scoundrel, Kay Vess, and is set between the events of the 1980 hit The Empire Strikes Back and 1983's Return Of The Jedi.

...and when I see "open world", I think that imparts some ability to customize a character. That is on me though. Again, I'm not knocking SW: Outlaws for what it is. I'm more disappointed about what it is not and what I hoped it would be.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: acctingman on August 31, 2024, 09:37:33 AM
I'm hoping that the game breaking bugs are fixed and that MAYBE somehow someway there can be some modding. Then I'll pick it up for $15
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: JudgeDredd on August 31, 2024, 09:38:26 AM
Seems you're not alone in that regard
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: JudgeDredd on August 31, 2024, 04:05:52 PM
I bought it for PS5 anyway. I suppose I was always going to
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Jarhead0331 on August 31, 2024, 04:11:03 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on August 31, 2024, 04:05:52 PMI bought for PS5 it anyway. I suppose I was always going to

Enjoy! Looking forward to your thoughts!
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Gusington on August 31, 2024, 04:17:20 PM
Post your impressions JD!
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: CaptainKoloth on September 02, 2024, 01:00:20 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on August 31, 2024, 09:11:31 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on August 31, 2024, 07:38:19 AMI didn't see anything that said it's an RPG  :HideEyes:


These are the descriptions I'm referring to...

QuoteThe first-ever open world Star Wars video game, the highly-anticipated Star Wars Outlaws, launches today. The third-person role play game (RPG) focuses on a Han Solo-inspired scoundrel, Kay Vess, and is set between the events of the 1980 hit The Empire Strikes Back and 1983's Return Of The Jedi.


J. Michael Straczynski, creator of Babylon 5, has a very entertaining rant somewhere about how the only sci-fi character that most entertainment and marketing executives can identify is Han Solo and that therefore when they start telling you how x character is just like Han Solo and that's why this piece of media is good, you should run.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: JudgeDredd on September 02, 2024, 01:50:28 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on August 31, 2024, 04:11:03 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on August 31, 2024, 04:05:52 PMI bought for PS5 it anyway. I suppose I was always going to

Enjoy! Looking forward to your thoughts!
PS5 version here.

It made me want to play Cyberpunk 2077 for it's openness and variety.

I've only played up to the point where I get some special card to get off the planet...all that was pretty boring really. It was only the first 30 minutes or so...but the opening of a game should grab you, right?

Also, once you get that card - you are forced into a "sneak" mode. No way of just saying "I'm going to blast my way out"...sneak and if you're seen, you get caught...game over. tbf I knew that - I had heard that on a review and I expected it - but I didn't think it would annoy me. NEWSFLASH - it really does!! And there's apparently lots more of that. Shit - even Cyberpunk has sneak missions, but if you get spotted, it all kicks off!

So honestly - I was bored enough to switch it off. I am only 30 minutes in so... :Nerd:

I'll let you know when I get further - if I can be arsed being forced to sneak through this mission. One thing I'm not good at is persistence.

I do like a good story though - so if that keeps going, then it might save it for me. Historically I've finished games (good or bad) with a great story...Mafia, Mafia II, Max Payne, The Last of Us, Far Cry 3, Titanfall 2...(just realised they were all great games too...but I'm sure I've played a bad one through with a great story...Far Cry 5 rings a bell)

Given what I have seen already, some of those negative reviews, whilst very "vinegary", had some truth to them.

For anyone waiting on a sale - given my fist 30 minutes - wise one you are.

BUT - did I mention I'm only 30 minutes in?

I'll come back with more at some point
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Gusington on September 02, 2024, 09:38:16 AM
 :Dreamer: 'vinegary'
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Tamas on September 02, 2024, 12:15:33 PM
Yeah the first mission being "fail is spotted" is baffling as I haven't seen any other such missions since. Not sure if I would have pushed through if I wasn't into the setting. There have been a couple "fail if alert is raised" missions but those aren't THAT bad. You are free to shoot up people as long as nobody lives long enough to raise the alarm.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: JudgeDredd on September 03, 2024, 03:52:48 AM
Played a bit more of it yesterday and actually enjoyed it more.

Combat is pretty simple, but I don't care about that. As I mentioned, I am terrible with persistence, so when a game challenges me too much, I often put it down and walk away. So I'm happy with easy combat. I can't remember if I changed the difficulty setting, but if I did, I would have put it on easy.

Sneaking around seems to be missing things that I personally would have liked - like dashing between cover and peeking round your cover...unless I've missed how to do that in this, because all I seem to do when peeking round cover is get spotted.

Another weird decision - as has been mentioned - is when you're on the speeder, having to use the "dead eye" targeting system. You have to get off your speeder to engage in normal combat.

Overall, now, had a decent time playing last night. It's still no 2077 or Mafia - but I just don't think it needs to be. It's got Storm Troopers and Star Wars characters and there's a definite Star Wars feel going on.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: Skoop on September 04, 2024, 02:34:09 PM
This game reminds me of of starfield from last year, where everyone thought it was going to be the end all be all space game and it was just meh...fallout in space.  Still was enjoyable and worth a playthrough, which is probably what outlaws is.  Starfield won't reach it's full potential till next year and beyond when the bigtime mods are finished.

Not sure if outlaws will have the mod support that starfield will have as thats not traditionally a Ubisoft thing, Ubi wants to paywall you with content.

 
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: acctingman on September 04, 2024, 08:50:21 PM
Quote from: Skoop on September 04, 2024, 02:34:09 PMThis game reminds me of of starfield from last year, where everyone thought it was going to be the end all be all space game and it was just meh...fallout in space.  Still was enjoyable and worth a playthrough, which is probably what outlaws is.  Starfield won't reach it's full potential till next year and beyond when the bigtime mods are finished.

Not sure if outlaws will have the mod support that starfield will have as thats not traditionally a Ubisoft thing, Ubi wants to paywall you with content.


 

From what I've heard there will be little mod support for Outlaws, but who knows.
Title: Re: Star Wars : Outlaws
Post by: JudgeDredd on September 07, 2024, 01:33:13 PM
I haven't finished it - not at all, but in the bit I've played, I kind of feel like this