Wargame: AirLand Battle

Jarhead0331 · August 01, 2013, 03:35:04 PM

Watch the replay. That is the best time to enjoy...

Nefaro · August 02, 2013, 12:41:03 AM

Quote from: republic on August 01, 2013, 10:29:17 AM
It is on artillery units for sure, but some armor and other units have a few smoke rounds as well.

I saw mention of how to order Smoke, but I don't remember what it is! Halp!

Grim.Reaper · August 02, 2013, 04:59:59 AM

Just curious, bought this long ago, but really haven't got into it much yet...just so much to play:) But ever since it came out, seems like there is an update to download every few days (maybe that is a little embellishment). Are these all patches for bug fixes, extra content, etc. ? A number of times theupdate is very small. I don't have an issue with updates, but at least from the games I own, seems to be the most frequently updated game on steam. Just curious....

republic · August 02, 2013, 06:28:00 AM

Nefaro the button will appear on the bottom right near where "fast travel" is. I can't remember the hot key for smoke off the top of my head.

Grim, the only thing I've really heard is that they've been tweaking the number of points available to build a deck and the bonuses of the various countries.

GDS_Starfury · August 02, 2013, 07:38:32 AM

this game is cutting into that like I really like to do called sleep.

Nefaro · August 02, 2013, 09:06:57 AM

Quote from: Grim.Reaper on August 02, 2013, 04:59:59 AM
Just curious, bought this long ago, but really haven't got into it much yet...just so much to play:) But ever since it came out, seems like there is an update to download every few days (maybe that is a little embellishment). Are these all patches for bug fixes, extra content, etc. ? A number of times theupdate is very small. I don't have an issue with updates, but at least from the games I own, seems to be the most frequently updated game on steam. Just curious....

Yes, there are regular updates I've seen. I think most of them are just small bug fixes, although the latest "expansion" update was just released IIRC.

I'm kinda glad the little fixes are put out in pretty small bits. Sometimes I log into Steam and a few games regularly have some ignorantly large files to download. Sometimes I think the devs are just replacing the whole game instead of taking the time to keep track of which files have been updated and only uploading those to Steam. ???

GDS_Starfury · August 02, 2013, 01:20:58 PM

its a good thing I dont have much to do until Monday. I just have to remember to get to my nieces birthday party on Sunday. someone please remind me. kthxbi

undercovergeek · August 02, 2013, 02:08:34 PM

Quote from: GDS_Starfury on August 02, 2013, 01:20:58 PM
its a good thing I dont have much to do until Monday. I just have to remember to get to my nieces birthday party on Sunday. someone please remind me. kthxbi

you enjoying it?

GDS_Starfury · August 02, 2013, 02:40:35 PM

yup! is there a way to start the battle with your infantry unloaded?

so far my biggest criticism is the air defence and air to air combat. the AAA seems far to effective and theres no frikin way a Polish Mig-21 is taking down a F-15c. 33 years of air combat an no losses for the F-15 prove my point.
Id like to see waypoints for moving stuff as well as a marker showing a units target position when you highlight them. Id also like a more specific order list like CC or CMs. if I get to a town first with infantry Id like them to wait in ambush not start shooting when the opfor is still 300 meters outside of town.

the game is not letting me be as sneaky is Id like to be.

undercovergeek · August 02, 2013, 02:54:57 PM

are you MP-ing or skirmishing.

On waypoints, i dont use em but im sure ive seen mention, shift and left click?

republic · August 02, 2013, 03:07:46 PM

Quote from: GDS_Starfury on August 02, 2013, 02:40:35 PM
yup! is there a way to start the battle with your infantry unloaded?

Not yet :(

Quoteso far my biggest criticism is the air defence and air to air combat. the AAA seems far to effective and theres no frikin way a Polish Mig-21 is taking down a F-15c. 33 years of air combat an no losses for the F-15 prove my point.

As a dirty communist player, I think the maps are too small to really take advantage of the F-15 and F-14's BVR capabilities, so the idea is that both planes find themselves in close contact and the luckiest IR or gun snapshot wins most of the time. Now in the big 10v10 maps I can attest to many a Pheonix missile has taken out many a plane of mine from nearly across the map :(

QuoteId like to see waypoints for moving stuff as well as a marker showing a units target position when you highlight them.

That would be a perfect addon. You should be able to shift click to queue commands like most modern RTS's

Quotewith infantry Id like them to wait in ambush not start shooting when the opfor is still 300 meters outside of town.

About all you can do is click on the various weapons to disable them, and then click again to enable them. You have to micromanage it, but if you want to set up a great ambush you can try that.

the game is not letting me be as sneaky is Id like to be.
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GDS_Starfury · August 02, 2013, 04:10:56 PM

so far Im playing the Oslo campaign Geek. theres no way Im subjecting myself to real people before Ive got a much better feel for the game.

QuoteAbout all you can do is click on the various weapons to disable them, and then click again to enable them.

great idea!

Quoteso the idea is that both planes find themselves in close contact and the luckiest IR or gun snapshot wins most of the time.

I refuse to believe that a commie Polish mig-21 is going to out turn a USAF F-16. Id sooner believe I can out dunk Jordan in basketball.

mikeck · August 02, 2013, 05:53:05 PM

Quote from: GDS_Starfury on August 02, 2013, 04:10:56 PM
so far Im playing the Oslo campaign Geek. theres no way Im subjecting myself to real people before Ive got a much better feel for the game.

QuoteAbout all you can do is click on the various weapons to disable them, and then click again to enable them.

great idea!

Quoteso the idea is that both planes find themselves in close contact and the luckiest IR or gun snapshot wins most of the time.

I refuse to believe that a commie Polish mig-21 is going to out turn a USAF F-16. Id sooner believe I can out dunk Jordan in basketball.

Agree 100%. Operation molecricket the Israelis downed dozens of mig 21's and 23's in air combat... Most by sidewinders indicating a dog fight. I have y played W: ALC much, but the first skirmish I played I lost a whole flight of F-15's to a flight of Mig-21's. wtf?

Just chalk it up to game balance I suppose

GDS_Starfury · August 02, 2013, 06:09:21 PM

well the AI seems to like impaling itself on my Stingers, Rolands and Blowpipes. the wild weasels do a pretty good job though. Im finding the catch to be launching a whole alpha strike almost at once. first weasels and wait 5 seconds then your bomb trucks wait 5 seconds and then your F-15/14/Tornados. the air cover shows up as the mud movers finish up and the op air comes in.

republic · August 02, 2013, 06:09:54 PM

It also can depend on what you've told the aircraft to do. I've found with aircraft in an anti-air role it is best to just summon them to an area within their longest missile range rather than telling them to actually attack a target.

If you click to attack a target they'll go all the way to gun range, but if you select to tell them to stay in an area that puts targets within their range, they'll stay away and take them out 'BVR'.

Also remember the training of the pilots matter, if you've chosen trained F-15 pilots but the other guy has Elite Mig-21 pilots the Migs can win easily. Also remember that if there is any sort of enemy anti-air your pilots will panic (even elite units) and will be killed.

As a commie pinko driver, I see F-4 Phantoms chew through my Su-27's and Mig-35's..much to my chagrin. :( But...that was before I learned the practice of calling them to an area, rather than a target.