DOOM

[Faux]

What is up with this discussion? It's a game of Dominions and everyone is playing as they see fit. There's no need to explain one's actions as long as rules aren't being violated. Please keep your rants in character and don't take this game personally, please.

[parone]

quite right faux.

earlier in the thread I was trying to stick up for phobos' decision to cast his nasty globals-that's his choice.

but then he went on a rant about how everyone was playing 'wrong'-not like him, so I tried to curb that.

in short:  let's all allow eachother to play as we see fit.  diplo is fine(even encouraged)-badgering other players is not.

in short, please be respectful.

[Wingedflamez]

I think it started out as comments about the illogic or logic behind putting up 4 hostile globals at the same time, then eventually folded back into the discussion that we had back before the game started about alliances and gang-ups.

[Haerdalas]

I think it is less a matter of Shinu and Pythium ganging up on people, but rather that they are in a sort of cold war. Neither dares to attack the other yet, particularly as there are lots of other players who could get involved and tip the balance. I think both are searching for some kind of advantage over the other.

Meanwhile, I sit quietly in my little empire, and plot.

[Faux]

I need an extension for this weekend. Preferably 48h so I could do my turn on sunday evening. 24h is also manageable.

[Wingedflamez]

For this turn or next turn?

EDIT:  went ahead and added 48 to it.

[parone]

folks, I think we have had an extension.

[Wingedflamez]

Yeah. I wasn't sure if faux ment extension on this turn or for the next turn so I just went ahead and did it.

[parone]

good job winger.  I just got home.  he has not submitted so it is likely you avoided a stale.

remember folks, give as much notice as you can when you need extensions.  without my trusty lieutenant, faux's dudes would have spent a whole month standing in one place ;D

[Haerdalas]

I doubt Machaka would have minded.

[Wingedflamez]

I think you have a good point there.

[Bronwell]

Ok.  It appears either I have a battle replay glitch or Pythium just somehow took advantage of a bug.  Perhaps someone can explain an alternate explanation. 

He just teleported in 2 Arch Theurgs to attack one of my water provinces at 92. (Feel free to nuke them ;)).  He also cast Awaken Kelp Ancient at the same province.   So I get a magic battle with 2 Arch Theurgs and the 2 Kelp Ancients in the Magic phase(before events).  As near as I can tell that should be impossible.  Awaken Kelp Ancient can't target enemy provinces.  I just tried it to confirm.  Otherwise my dryads would spam that at every water province on the map.  Kelp Ancients are immobile, and so they could not have moved there.  One of the Kelp Ancients also said home province of that particular province.

Is this a replay glitch, or does anyone have an alternate explanation?  Thank you.

[Phobos]

Kelp ancients have stealth.  Stealth attacks targeting a current province will take place in the magic phase.  That is my best guess.

[Wingedflamez]

Even immobile units, except a very few, and be teleported, my guess is that is how it happened. They teleported in with the arch theurgs.

[Bronwell]

A number of problems with those explanations.

First, the Kelp ancient was per the spell, so one commander(with no magic paths and no items) and one unit.  You cannot teleport a commander barring items or magic levels.

Two, the ancient unit said home province Northern Sea of Tears (where the battle took place)

Three, they are both immobile, so there is no way for an ancient commander to be moved barring gate stone (no feet for the astral boots).

Four, teleport can't bring in units, only the commander.  The only astral spell that lets you bring units with you to an enemy province is Astral Travel- a level 9 spell that costs 25 gems.

Five One of the Arch Theurgs had water so he could have used Traverse the Sea from one of his water provinces with a lab, except that can only target a friendly water province with a lab, and still wouldn't explain the Kelp Ancient commander.