IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Stalingrad Discussion

[Tuna]

I'll keep an eye out this afternoon for multiplays.  O0

More like evening, at work now ;-)

What time?  :D If you'll open it up to super noob mode I might jump in.

Maybe 6 or 7 est? Was thinking Wings of Liberty, which is usually populated. But if you were going to pilot, we could go to New Wings, which is usually empty (But I wouldn't need a gunner then  )

[Gusington]

Super Noob Mode is my only mode.

[Barthheart]

... Wings of Liberty...New Wings...

No idea what this means? 

[Dammit Carl!]

Server names IIRC from what/where Magz plays on and mentions in his YouTube spots.

Sounds like fun; so jelly.

[Tuna]

... Wings of Liberty...New Wings...

No idea what this means? 

Server Names

[JasonPratt]

Meanwhile for Gus: I'm trying to learn the -111 the way a new pilot would. Considering there are no official instructions or tutorials...

0.) Calibrate my stick and throttle controls. (Should have done that first.)

1.) Watch instruction videos and read instruction summary pdfs.

2.) Set up a quick mission starting parked at 5am. Check out which dials glow in the dark, and familiarize myself with them. Try going through the automatic startup and shutdown on the engines, and see what difference that makes in cockpit functionality. (Can I turn on lights without starting engine? Nope -- though in real life I ought to be able to. Are lights helpful and how far? Not really in this case.)

3.) Hang around until dawn or quickstart back in at 6:30. Compare night-light dials with visual controls and dials. See what moves around automatically during engine startup / shutdown.

4.) Learn how to use the external camera, and watch control surfaces adjust with the controls.

5.) Since I don't have a tracker, figure out where the quicksnaps are for each position and how to toggle through them. Visit each position in the craft doing that and mouselooking around. Use T to grab and ungrab the guns; LShift-T to look down the sights. Where there are multiple guns per post, learn how to cycle through them. (The side gunner in the 111 works both the left and right fuselage guns, which have almost-useless shooting arcs -- mostly our own wings! He steps back and forth across the coffin for the belly gunner. ;) The belly gunner switches back and forth between aft and (when installed) fore guns, with not much better arcs. The top gunner has by far the best shooting arcs. The nav/bomber gun, and the others except for top, are mainly there to keep enemy pilots from simply stabbing with direct runs at the bomber with impunity. They amount to harsh language being thrown at the enemy to make him back off. ;) )

6.) At that point, I start learning what it takes to taxi around. This gives me a feeling for the mass of the craft, and thus its inertias, which will come in handy later.

7.) Now I'm at the point of learning taking off (still haven't gotten back to learning why takeoff speed takes so much longer to reach than expected) and landing, as well as some simple maneuvers. I'm pushing myself somewhat on the landings, since my life isn't really at stake: I might need to land quickly in a mission later under adverse circumstances. Making high-risk landings forces me to push the performance envelopes, too, such as for combat maneuvers.

8.) Next I'll start learning some navigation plotting.

[Father Ted]

still haven't gotten back to learning why takeoff speed takes so much longer to reach than expected

I mentioned tailwheel lock because I don't think you should have to use brakes to control the take off run, but if that isn't the issue, then I think it must be a prop-pitch thing

[Gusington]

Pratt that sounds like a course at the Air Force Academy.

[JasonPratt]

Pratt that sounds like a course at the Air Force Academy.

Could be worse. Could be DCS! -- except I recall hearing that those do have proper manuals and maybe even tutorials...?

[Toonces]

I've been dying on Wings of Liberty server the last few nights.  I'll keep an eye out for you guys.

[MengJiao]

Pratt that sounds like a course at the Air Force Academy.

Could be worse. Could be DCS! -- except I recall hearing that those do have proper manuals and maybe even tutorials...?

  It varies some, but some aircraft have great manuals and tutorials in DCS

[Skoop]

Pratt that sounds like a course at the Air Force Academy.

Could be worse. Could be DCS! -- except I recall hearing that those do have proper manuals and maybe even tutorials...?

Chucks guides has a guide for the he111, not sure where to get it these days, check google or the il2 site guides section may have it.  There is a basic manual in the games folders, it's more geared towards the UI though.

[Toonces]

LOL I just saw Tuna on Wings of Liberty.  Unfortunately I immediately got shot down by some ATAG guy.  I gotta pair up with a wingman, this solo shit just isn't working.

The thing is, I knew the guy was back there somewhere because I could hear his plane, but I checked 6 and couldn't find him until he shredded my wing off.


We'll have to hook this up on Friday when y'all can stay up later on east coast time.  Meantime, I'll see if I can figure out this Discord thing, and maybe get a working mic.

[JasonPratt]

Pratt that sounds like a course at the Air Force Academy.

Could be worse. Could be DCS! -- except I recall hearing that those do have proper manuals and maybe even tutorials...?

Chucks guides has a guide for the he111, not sure where to get it these days, check google or the il2 site guides section may have it.  There is a basic manual in the games folders, it's more geared towards the UI though.

I'd like even a basic manual! -- but I haven't found it in the game folder.

I have Chuck's guide but it's for Cliffs of Dover. Some of it is still relevant for BoX, but a lot of it involves clicking on things that just aren't clickable or even functional in BoX. My favorite example of this, is the awesome chairlift for the He-111 pilot! -- once you open the canopy above the seat, you can raise your chair on a hydraulic lift so that your head is sticking a foot or two above the canopy. There's even a pop-up little windscreen!

BoX doesn't have this at all, although it's my pet theory for what a big yellow pull-knob-lever is doing at the front of the cross-T console: it has no functionality I can find, nor even a label anywhere (including in historical photos and the only cabin schematic I've been able to find yet where I think it's entirely or mostly missing).

[Tuna]

LOL I just saw Tuna on Wings of Liberty.  Unfortunately I immediately got shot down by some ATAG guy.  I gotta pair up with a wingman, this solo shit just isn't working.

The thing is, I knew the guy was back there somewhere because I could hear his plane, but I checked 6 and couldn't find him until he shredded my wing off.


We'll have to hook this up on Friday when y'all can stay up later on east coast time.  Meantime, I'll see if I can figure out this Discord thing, and maybe get a working mic.

SDR and Ironx were on earlier, we flew a few bombing runs together. I was in the HE 111 when you saw me. Had a successful run the first time.. 2nd one, I got damaged bad by AA, so I turned my 111 into a dive bomber (it actually worked - but died shortly after).

For some reason the beginning of tonight, I could not take off for the life of me in the JU 88.. took till the 3rd try. LOL Ironx  was very patient  .

I never did see Gus my gunner :-(