Video games blow movies away for 2013 revenue: $100 Billion vs. $10 Billion.

[Bison]

I'm going on record as saying have nothing against anyone making a profit.  Profit does not equate to evil.  Period.  End of story.  Have a good day.  Thank you.  Come again.  Et cetera...et cetera.

There is nothing wrong with profit if you provide a legitimate product or service. If you take profit relying on marketing to provide an illusion of a real product or service it is called ... a variety of things.

What about CoD or BF4 is not a legitimate product?  There is no illusion.  If anything people who believe this time, unlike the last 5 releases or whatever it's been, is somehow going to have an extensive solo player content that differs from the past is suffering from delusion.  I'd say that the majority of people who purchase the game purchase it for multiplayer and not solo player.  I don't know, but it seems to me that mostly people aren't getting the same gaming "rush" from the game as when they first played it and that is really the drive behind dissatisfaction.  Of course, I could be completely wrong.

[GDS_Starfury]

The original COD came out after the movie Enemy at the Gates. You could get 8 hrs gameplay just from the Stalingrad missions recreation of the movie.

we all loved shooting that pos commissar in the face!

[LongBlade]

I'm going on record as saying have nothing against anyone making a profit.  Profit does not equate to evil.  Period.  End of story.  Have a good day.  Thank you.  Come again.  Et cetera...et cetera.

There is nothing wrong with profit if you provide a legitimate product or service. If you take profit relying on marketing to provide an illusion of a real product or service it is called ... a variety of things.

Consumers have free choice.

I've gone to restaurants where my meal wasn't what I expected and I've chosen not to go back.

Hey, we may all agree with Jarhead that this latest crop of FPS games suck. But if they sell $100 million worth of games it really doesn't matter what our judgment is because there are a lot of other people who disagree.

I'll be blunt - I suspect that there is an entire generation of gamers who have never played a top shelf FPS game on a PC so they don't have a clue what good gaming is like.

Anecdotally I've met several twenty-something gamers who have managed to play an FPS on a high-end PC and they agree that consoles don't live up to the fun on a PC. However, consoles fill a "good enough" niche on a platform that costs $300 instead of $2000. Not everyone likes McDonalds, but they've served billions and billions of burgers despite the fact that their burgers don't match the quality of a Kobe beef burger. McDonalds is "good enough."

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

I'm going on record as saying have nothing against anyone making a profit.  Profit does not equate to evil.  Period.  End of story.  Have a good day.  Thank you.  Come again.  Et cetera...et cetera.

There is nothing wrong with profit if you provide a legitimate product or service. If you take profit relying on marketing to provide an illusion of a real product or service it is called ... a variety of things.

What about CoD or BF4 is not a legitimate product?  There is no illusion.  If anything people who believe this time, unlike the last 5 releases or whatever it's been, is somehow going to have an extensive solo player content that differs from the past is suffering from delusion.  I'd say that the majority of people who purchase the game purchase it for multiplayer and not solo player.  I don't know, but it seems to me that mostly people aren't getting the same gaming "rush" from the game as when they first played it and that is really the drive behind dissatisfaction.  Of course, I could be completely wrong.

What I see in the entertainment industry is a marketing driven hype that the next version is way better that the original that made the name brand. In a few cases, be it game or movie, that is true, such as Starcraft or The Empire Strikes Back. In most cases the sequel is a hollow shell of a product with little besides the bling it is wearing.

[Grimnirsson]

I'll be blunt - I suspect that there is an entire generation of gamers who have never played a top shelf FPS game on a PC so they don't have a clue what good gaming is like.

Anecdotally I've met several twenty-something gamers who have managed to play an FPS on a high-end PC and they agree that consoles don't live up to the fun on a PC.

Well, that sounds like the typical PC elitist statement...PC games are certainly not better in general if you take into account the player who might not want to play a shooter on a PC. He might not like using keyboard/ mouse, he might not like sitting in front of a monitor, he might not want to cash out money beyond a certain limit, he might not want to sit in fron of a PC in his free time because he's doing that all day long in the office. Of course a high end PC might have better gfx and all, but all this doesn't matter if someone does not like playing on a PC. The PC is a platform for games, no more no less and a platform is not making games better per se. Person 1 perhaps prefers platform A for certain reasons, person 2 prefers platform B for other reasons. A shooter experience can be as good on a console as on a PC but certain folks might not be able to feel comfortable with controller or keyboard/mouse so the 'better game' is the one fitting your preferences. And a FPS on a console has the advantage that it feels more according to the real thing, talk about immersion - a controller gives you more the feel of pulling the trigger, a mouse and a keyboard couldn't be farther away from a gun. And the high speed reaction with a mouse is unrealistic imho, the speed of a controller feels more natural (to me).

[GDS_Starfury]

pc gaming will always be better then consoles.  the graphics are better, the sound is better and I can forget the monitor as I can play anything I want in my flatscreen.  you might want to read this:

http://www.gamesradar.com/pc-gamers-destroyed-console-gamers-in-tests-says-voodoo-pc-founder/

across the board pc's are more versatile.

[Grimnirsson]

Typical PC elitist BS. Of course it doesn't make sense to have gamers with a controller in a vs match with kb/m gamers. Of course the mouse is faster and more accurate (unrealistically faster, you can't make a 180 turn as fast in real life as you can do with a mouse twitch), so what? Does this make for a 'better' game? I can kill you with a sword, I can kill you with a rifle. I can be a master swordsman showing you tricks with the sword that make you go 'WOW!' - I can be a marksman with a rifle and shoot out the eye of a fly so everyone goes 'Incredible what is possible if you really have the talent'. And then I start a fight between the the swordsman and the marksman and the marksman kills the swordmaster before he is able to come close...your 'PC gamers destroyed console players' article would write 'see? Swords suck and a swordmaster is no match even for a rifle noob'.

Beyond absurd to actually link such nonsense to the quality of a game or platform.

[GDS_Starfury]

[GDS_Starfury]

Beyond absurd to actually link such nonsense to the quality of a game or platform.

not at all.  the quality of pc games is usually far better then their console counterparts.

[Bison]

I'm going on record as saying have nothing against anyone making a profit.  Profit does not equate to evil.  Period.  End of story.  Have a good day.  Thank you.  Come again.  Et cetera...et cetera.

There is nothing wrong with profit if you provide a legitimate product or service. If you take profit relying on marketing to provide an illusion of a real product or service it is called ... a variety of things.

What about CoD or BF4 is not a legitimate product?  There is no illusion.  If anything people who believe this time, unlike the last 5 releases or whatever it's been, is somehow going to have an extensive solo player content that differs from the past is suffering from delusion.  I'd say that the majority of people who purchase the game purchase it for multiplayer and not solo player.  I don't know, but it seems to me that mostly people aren't getting the same gaming "rush" from the game as when they first played it and that is really the drive behind dissatisfaction.  Of course, I could be completely wrong.

What I see in the entertainment industry is a marketing driven hype that the next version is way better that the original that made the name brand. In a few cases, be it game or movie, that is true, such as Starcraft or The Empire Strikes Back. In most cases the sequel is a hollow shell of a product with little besides the bling it is wearing.

That doesn't make it by any stretch of the imagination fraudulent or deceptive. 

[Nefaro]

Typical PC elitist BS.

T ypical console-defense bullshit.

I was a console-only gamer for a few years, at one point.  While it was somewhat enjoyable, it was ultimately very disappointing in comparison and I couldn't wait to get a capable PC after my short stretch of being force-fed the same few brainless games & genres repeatedly.  The software variety, and versatility in general, is still unmatched when compared to that available on consoles. 

There is no "death of the PC".  The day that consoles can match every advantage that a PC has is the day that consoles become a full-fledged computer.

[Staggerwing]

There is no "death of the PC".  The day that consoles can match every advantage that a PC has is the day that consoles become a full-fledged computer.

I think I hear the sound of a steam engine in the distance...

[Arctic Blast]

There is no "death of the PC".  The day that consoles can match every advantage that a PC has is the day that consoles become a full-fledged computer.

I think I hear the sound of a steam engine in the distance...

To say nothing of the new consoles. The Xbox One and PS4 are pretty much PC's in console clothing. Previous generation consoles had unique system architecture, but this generation really is just offering PC components installed in a similar way to what you'd find in a typical PC case.

[GDS_Starfury]

I'll still hate console controllers.

[Arctic Blast]

I'll still hate console controllers.

I like them for certain types of games...they blow keyboard and mouse away for platformers, arcade racing games and third person action games. Of course, that's largely because I played those games on consoles for a long time and got used to that control scheme for those games.